Idontgiveaf is SLE most probably
Chae IMO is EIE
Idontgiveaf is SLE most probably
Chae IMO is EIE
You make a good point, Sol.Originally Posted by Sol
Hitta has loads of Ne.
I think you could be a Fi type, either IEE or SEE. For enneagram 9 or maybe 3, and probably sx/sp.
ILI-Ni's can have loads of Ne, in the same way that LIE-Te's can have a good amount of Ti, as you do.
doubtfully
For example, 9 seems often have sad eyes. You don't.
9 avoid conflicts as are touchy. You provoke them.
> I've always been a "weird" and "different" girl who has tried to make myself appear more normal.
9 are often thought as pleasant and comfortable people, not weird
> My ex's have criticized me in the past for being a weird & socially awkward, and it has made me want to die inside
women, you are choosing men which don't love you and then whine about them. choose men among friends and be happy.
I don't know which enneagram type you are, @fox, but I do know that you have great insight, have the ability to put up with huge amounts of shit from assholes, are faithful beyond what's probably good for you, and you pour oil on troubled waters before most people notice a storm is coming.
You also have a good sense of humor.
Damn, this thread is back from the grave and @Adam Strange is making if wholesome too. Ok, my turn.
Everyone, regardless of your type and what others might think about you, just know that you are irreplacable, loved and appreciated.
There ♡
@Penny Dreadful, everyone is all those things, of course.
But mis-typed.
Killjoy.
9 like to be in meditative state of calmness and day dreaming, so meds against anxiety may shift your behavior to that side.
I know this typology limitly, so I may understand is you 9 or not, but other parts are known much worse.
If to take the possibility of EIE, that table and that you like mods activity, I may suppose 2.
@fox: as I understand, e4 is more about being attached to the breadth of feelings generated by feeling like you are weird. It's not that you directly value the weirdness (although some 4s do), it's that you *use* your perception of being weird to generate vast quantities of feelings, and it is *on these feelings* that your identity relies. Hence why two 4s from similar cultural backgrounds may be 'weird' in very different ways.
Reason is a whore.
k4m's self typing isn't that convincing either ..
I have four in my tritype I think. I may be a 945. I feel different from other people and I'm coming to appreciate my individuality. But I definitely don't lead with four, because being different never made me feel special, it made me feel isolated and weird all my life and all I wanted to do was fit in. I think 4s tend to have a bigger presence than 9s, even if they're introverted, and you have a big presence!
I mostly base the version differing from IEI on your photos. IEI are more like children in my perception, but not you.
You put no emotions in the pictures I saw. IEI have gentle and soft emotionality, while your is more rigid. Initially I related this to T, but after I've known about meds I assumed more chances for F types. Also your expressions are very similar on photos, what is doubtful for P types which behave like water. I may imagine you in EIE, but not IEI. At least, with that photos. Video would gave me more data.
In my bloggers list (it was updated recently) you may look at people of different types, mb this will show which ones you prefer, find them as more "yours" for your soul.
> also, I can't help that my bone structure is sharper & not soft.
I use impressions from nonverbal, not physiognomy.
For your services, mistress fox.
Kinky.
not everything in this world is about sex
Yes, of course not. That's why innuendos exist!
It's like we're back in 2010
Why?
I backed down because you are right in that I misinterpreted the original intent. And also, practising disengagement is a habit learned from youth, and very good habit that kept me safe.
Having said, don't fucking kid yourself that my comment is some obsession with my sexuality, nor is it an indicator of some sort of perversion. I am more comfortable, level headed about the entire issue and what I can come to except from others. Optics are simple, if I was a straight guy saying the same thing, you wouldn't have made it about me personally. LOL. So there is one double standard, that tbh I don't really care all that much, its laughable, really. That you said that reveals some of your bias, which isn't something new to me. Saying you hope that medicine and natural behaviour is just simply a big fuck you, ******, clothed in passive aggressive sympathy comment. It's classic "can dish it, but can't take it"--->so 'I' (Sol) instead attempt to mock my opponent at the core of his being, and look you scored some browny points with the crowd.
My comment with simply a joke, something I would have said in any other setting. And also a test.
That I didn't address it immediately is just because I needed to time think about it, to escape the event with the least amount of damage. I'm alright with sleeping on an issue instead of blurting out immediately, and that's because, no narcissist shame to admit, I'm pretty developed psychologically.
Don't mistake. Fuck you to, Sol.
I suppose you need the rest from our communication until you'll reach what you claimed.
At now you are going to ignore.
Do what you think you need to do. Put me on ignore, or don't, it doesn't matter to me. fwiw, I'm not putting you on ignore.
o_o I did put a like on it but I didn't realize that the joke could also be found offensive. (I assumed it was a joke, anyway)
Missing my point if you thought I was personally offended. This wasn't about my offence, or not. It was about the comment being wrong at its root----> which it is. Its all good though, because it revealed the bias in him. Nobody is better or worse than me right now, yet for him, he does feel superior as revealed by the joke.. That is the point here.
The whole event could have been avoided if Sol had just laughed it off and admitted the backward compliment for k4--->which it was....when he got called out on it. Could have been a real camaraderie moment.
Yeah well, whatever. The cycle of subjective ethics continues. Bravo 16t.
Offenced could be only the ones who deserved it. In the form which the opponents have chosen as understandable for them.
Dude it was obvious sarcasm by Sol. He was mocking him xd. How could u not see that
Maybe because I view k4 as smart to begin with? Excuse my confusion for thinking it was a compliment and not an asinine jab. I don't speak snob.
edit: I don't care about any of it. you all can have your bullshitcionics. Role play balah blah balh role play role plaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy/. huuumonns talking role play you say i say role play i am a real hummon role play role play character character he said she replied role playyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy i am a real humaann repeat huuuuumoooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaahhhn
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I sometimes think you are SLI, or fits w/e socionics says SLI is (clarifying because who says socionics is true don't think I do), because you seem to attempt to speak common sense and common sense (SLI) seems to be an antithesis.
Alright I don't really speak Fi-lingo so yeah I'll be missing the point. You also misunderstood my line though, I was trying to express that I didn't mean to make anyone feel bad with the like I gave for Sol's post.
The problem is also that most people in the world feel at some point in their life that they're weird or don't fit in. This does not make a person 4 (or 4 fixed), for the same reason most people don't like being in pain, doesn't make them a 7.
All enneagram types represent universal feelings that ALL people have. The point of the types though is that they take it to an extreme level.
Feeling broken and mangled is just one of many parts of type 4 but people like to look over the others which creates more mistypes, and more people mistyping (which is already a big problem) creates even more mistyping, yay
Because there are a bunch of old, inactive members on there and it has the socionix "I am omniscient" style of always including subtypes and no alterative typings.
You can always go back and read old posts and edit the typings if you find that they're incorrect.
Yep.
Reason is a whore.
I see nothing in you about Fi suggestive:When people see you as having strong suggestive - you are on the right way.
Unfortunately the girl having base Fi says I'm so weird in Fi that she thinks I have it non-valued. By some magic, with having the opposite opinion, she comes to same thought about me as LSI. I'm working about this situation to explain that I'm in good IR with cute complementary girls.
> Sol should ignore me.
Sol disagrees
"Fi as suggestive function in LSE (ESTj; Stirlitz) and LIE (ENTj; Jack London) - people of these types strive to find themselves in environment where they like everything and everyone. If they don't like something or someone - this is a reason to change their environment. Very receptive when he is told how someone else should be treated. When he does not know how to treat someone, feels uncomfortable - needs those who can explain this to him. Looks for a place where he would be allowed to communicate his assessments and attitudes. If this is allowed - the place seems welcoming to him. In this regard, he is very mistrustful and and often tries to rely on some objective data. Very suggestible by the valuations of those who are close to him, and through this he can be taken advantage of. Having found himself in some new place, if there is such a person there, he will try to listen to his/her evaluations and then adopt them as his own. The best place for him is where he has a circle of close and trusted friends. He likes situations where he knows or can accurately assess how everything should be treated and valuated: "this is white and that is black." If he lacks such clarity, he may feel uncomfortable. It is very painful for him to part with his groups of friends or team where he worked - memories will bring him to bouts of nostalgia. It is very hurtful for him to lose a friend, a comrade, a colleague, whom he has known for a long while. Same applies to his personal life. Sometimes he might deliberately provoke a scandal and use it as a way to express his attitude towards someone or something, since another method of delivery would require the approval of the group or collective, but this way he can freely give his assessment as is. And then move on to his real valuations, which now he can safely speak about. If he has feelings for someone, he can turn a blind eye to everything, as he is very suggestible by love - it makes him blind. It's a feeling that warms him contrary to all common sense. In general, under such circumstances, the position of this function results in a very dangerous situation because such a person can be easily 'programmed' to any feelings for anyone (fall prey to sycophancy). Then you can just push him to take action and no hypnosis is even necessary - he will act believing it is out of his best intentions."
You'd have left this forum already if you cared all that much about who you personally like and dislike lol. You just don't seem to care about finding a bunch of people who you like. And, you don't look like you are looking for advice this much on how to treat people.
In my conscious attitude I'm here not for relations or emotions, but for studing (Ne, Te) about types and giving others my knowledge about types (base Te, E-1). When I get bad Fi acception or annoying Fe then I supress my F and rationalize (T) my relations as "nothing personal" - this helps to protect myself from alien and hostile people. And when I get bad feelings they are not strong, I don't keep them to others for long. Though significant good feelings also are rare on forums.
I care mostly unconsciously about Fi as it's weak function. When I have no loving (Fi) people near me I feel not good (rather depressive). My uncle LIE had similar issues, which were much fixed only after his marriage (cute, quiet, smart and responsible woman - some N-I, though without impressive look) near 30 y.o. They have strong personal connection and not bad marriage.
I may to have no clear understanding that I need Fi related, - I just have no high motivation and pleasure from life in general. I feel pain only when I get Fi activation - then I understand that I want more of it. And if I get accidental loss of what I had previously in Fi support - I get strong heart pain, which may last for years and then I stop on plato of general emotional dissatisfaction from the life.
It's like with suggestive of others. For example, not all base Ni clearly feel how they value money in relations - they may think like they don't care. But would feel badly in such case, mb without clear understanding why is so. People need suggestive support, but have muddy understanding.
> You just don't seem to care about finding a bunch of people who you like.
It's common when T types use forums for informational exchange and hence don't seek "a bunch of people who you like". You'll see other at F types mostly, which flood a lot on forums because of this (significant their flood happens by pm).
> And, you don't look like you are looking for advice this much on how to treat people.
Because I need closer relations than random dudes on forums to alow my emotions, to remove my protection blocks. Then I'd was interested to get Fi info from people to which I have soul, friendly attraction and personal trust. For all time on forums I got only one case of such, - clear friendly attraction to other forumie, ESI girl. She tryed to behaved with me like friend may do, only after several monthes my heart have turned to her consciously - I've felt soul attraction, the wish of Fi support from her. Also I communicated with Fe types which tryed to do similar without any success, they stayed too alien in behavior to touch my heart deep enough. As this was pretty girl and previously I thought her attention as partly flirt (as she thought us duals), the soul attraction went to romantic side for me. As she was in relations which thought as serious, this have created strong obstacles for our friendly commuication (pain of jealousy and from her rejection in me, she was annoyed by my tryies to change her to my side). I liked her enough to think about possible marriage, what said to her. I'm trying to restore this communication on "friends level" at least, but I can't remove or hide completely my romantic attitude which spurns her and she tryes to establish longer personal distance than did initially. Probably she has more than unacceptance of my actions (IR influence, instincts, etc), what may scary her as such I pull her from relations which she prefers to keep. If I'd behaved better with her in past (she thinks my temper as bad and as my type LSI - her superego as thinks own type as EII, because I was awful in Fi in her understanding, expressed too much of Fe sarcasm on the forum and redundantly pressed her being E-9 what she relates to Se), and also had lesser financial issues (about what I said to her briefly) to have normal family (to live along needs much lesser, so some years may be taken to improve this; I had no motivation before, not much of emotional interest to life), - then the situation could go to other way, probably, and we could to live together now. As chances on relations with her became very low, the most reasonable would be to switch to other as soon as possible, what is not easy for me (LSE seems are not easy in romances, - hard to get significant feelings, to break relations, to forget ones, etc).
It's about how I "don't care" about Fi.
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