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    Whenever I'm talking socionics in an mbti forum, i feel intelligent. Lol. does anyone Feel the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    I mean, are people to dumb to see this things by themselves before learning socionics?
    I doubt that I would have seen it, because I never spent much time thinking about people or their personalities before socionics. Those who saw the types most clearly were those dealing with people, talking to them, helping them sort out their problems in a clinical setting - from my understanding, Jung developed the idea after meeting with many different patients, and Augusta also saw how his work applied only because she was dealing with patients. So, the hypothesis of socionics types followed from close observation of a lot of different people, noticing the patterns that appeared. Not a lot of people spend their days talking to and observing people, but those who do might come up with similar classifications and systems as well.
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    yeah socionics opened my eyes to a lot; meanwhile I met a guy after I learned socionics, and he has never been exposed to it, and yet he follows perfectly and comes to many conclusions independently of me that are very much in keeping with a deep understanding of socionics; is ILI as far as I can tell

    I never talk about it directly with him (i.e.: make explicit the underlying Jungian construct or the model of IM), but I'll convey judgements basically rooted in socionic principles and its like he already knows. its more or less self evident and intuitive to him, like its built in to his worldview, although he will use his own personal language as the sheen on it

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    People are too impatient for Socionics. It took me around 7 months of reading and watching others along with talking to a friend about it before I felt like I really understood it. Most people aren't willing to put that much time and effort into something unless there's some tangible benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I personally view myself to be more so in the average range of intelligence and I have diagnosed learning disabilities. If I can both teach myself and grasp the basics of socionics, I don't see why others can't. I honestly feel like most people are just simply not interested enough to learn about a not very well known Russian theory of information processing and personality type, and you may or may not have to be slightly on the autism spectrum to find a deeper joy in such things. (j/k about that last part)

    Tbh, I think the notion that the general population isn't intelligent enough to understand socionics is kind of laced with a bit of narcissism in a way. I honestly feel like it's simply just not going to be everyone's cup of tea in terms of hobbies/interests. For example, a good deal of Americans are really into football and know the complete ins and outs of the game. I personally have 0 interest in football and couldn't tell you what a cornerback does, or tell you why they are chasing that stupid ball around, and this is because I simply lack interest in the game and find it to be boring. When I am around others who are passionately talking about football, I feel like they are speaking in another language. I'm honestly sure a good deal of the population feels the same way about some obscure Russian personality theory based off Jung's work.
    Good points. From what I've seen the terminology is a big hurdle especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Good points. From what I've seen the terminology is a big hurdle especially.
    You are a troll @thehotelambush

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    You are a troll @thehotelambush

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    ;p I like you but you are such troll

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    maybe socionics is too dumb for people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    ;p I like you but you are such troll
    I wasn't trolling.

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    You can't be too dumb for Socionics. If you have the interest in something, you'll understand it eventually. And honestly if you can't understand it, I'd blame it on the system itself rather than the person since Socionics isn't really an official system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I wasn't trolling.
    Thats what happens when you troll a lot.
    I hope you are learning your lesson.
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    People are too stupid in general. Period.

    Although it is not necessarily their fault...

    Ideally, socionics (or a more advanced equivalent) should be taught to children in schools somewhere in the near future.

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    Well, i should correct this stupidity in general sense.

    People who are "dumb" at socionics can be people who are:
    1. Not studying socionics at all
    2. Not familiar with socionics, but with mbti. (just accept it guys, we all started at mbti)
    3. People who have higher priority to study other than socionics
    4. Socionics isn't a fucking social status. It doesn't make you better than everyone else if you master socionics or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    Well, i should correct this stupidity in general sense.

    People who are "dumb" at socionics can be people who are:
    1. Not studying socionics at all
    2. Not familiar with socionics, but with mbti. (just accept it guys, we all started at mbti)
    3. People who have higher priority to study other than socionics
    4. Socionics isn't a fucking social status. It doesn't make you better than everyone else if you master socionics or not.
    Ne fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    Ne fail.
    Explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    Explain.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    No.
    Haha. Loser.

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    @Tigerfadder ok, I will admit my response to your robot thread was a bit tongue-in-cheek

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    Taking how many people can't understand own type stably and without contradiction to core theory for years, sometimes this looks so.

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    Are people too dumb for Socionics?
    yes. also I'm one of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    yes. also I'm one of them
    Awwwww you don't say thatttt

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    People aren't too dumb for socionics. Socionics is the reason people get dumb.

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