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    My longest-lasting best friend in school was very introverted, probably EII or SEI. She was pleasant company, but didn't talk much and her intelligence level was lower than mine. So I often felt like her entertainment. I would do most of the talking, and when she laughed I felt I was doing it right.

    As an extrovert, I sometimes feel like it's my duty to keep conversation going, to keep people from growing bored. And I was considering whether there was a type this was more prevalent with.

    I thought I don't have that much with LIIs, then remembered I've behaved like an ESE to entertain an LII before.
    I don't think I feel the need to entertain LSIs, mostly because I know if I tried I'd be likely to annoy them.
    I do think I feel the need to entertain SLIs, but mostly because I don't expect anyone else to.
    I also often feel the need to entertain EIIs.
    I guess I don't see extroverts as needing entertained as much, but as needing stimulated. Like just talking would be enough for an introvert, but with an extrovert they would want a thing going on.

    Of course, it's more relaxing to not feel the need to entertain anyone (including myself).
    I was wondering what others' views on this were. (Maybe it's related to my stacking.)

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    If I feel I should entertain someone, I avoid them.
    If someone is seeking entertainment and invites me along, that's a different story as the pressure isn't on me to provide it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    If I feel I should entertain someone, I avoid them.
    If someone is seeking entertainment and invites me along, that's a different story as the pressure isn't on me to provide it.
    My sentiments, exactly.

    Although as Abbie alluded to, with certain individuals or small groups, i can sometimes feel pressure to extravert more in order to be pleasant company or to mediate the bonding, make people feel comfy with each other (especially if they dont know one another). That only happens though when all of the people involved are awkwardly silent (which is a rare occurrence, but... i've been there... ). Typically, i'll try to use my judgement on who among my friends to bring together, though, keeping things like that in mind.

    But yeah, i dont really pursue friendship with people who expect to be entertained by me (i dont think it's type related either).
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    Bases on my limited experiences (which is perhaps more dependent on the individuals rather than innate personality): I remember various interactions with EIEs with dumbfounded expressions that perhaps gave me this feeling. Also, interactions with LSIs and ESIs have left me feeling on guard: I might be able to predict their general pattern of behaviour, but I find it difficult to feel that we "share special moments" (we share moments from having a similar disposition, but it can feel like shadowboxing I suppose: we "get" each other, but interactions feel somewhat unsatisfactory).

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    @Director Abbie, this sounds like a very caretaker-extratim thing to do.

    As for myself, being very quiet, it is difficult for me to "entertain" people in the way you describe. However, in my experience I feel like some people are entertained just by having someone listen to them. I often fill the role of a "good listener", for people like this, and I don't usually mind.

    As long as someone starts a conversation and is being pleasant and kind, I have no problem listening or contributing. It is hard for me to contribute to conversations if I don't care about the subject; however, I have enough interests that this isn't typically too much of a problem, at least with people I'm closer with.

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    As for specific types, ILEs (and to a lesser extent, IEEs) especially seem to be entertained when people to listen to all of their ideas, and being theoretically bent myself I like to evaluate them and entertain possibilities too. That is fun for me. It's just that they tend to prefer that someone always listens to them and coddles them, which isn't what I do as much. Si-dom seeking, basically.

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    I can't really entertain people, so people probably feel like they have to be the ones to talk to me. I don't mind being talked to if the person is giving information that is at least halfway interesting. Otherwise I would rather just be silent, or at least not be pressured to speak. When I have something to say I will say it, but otherwise I don't even really feel like me trying to entertain would help, it would just make the situation worse. I'm just not enthusiastic about much.

    People I talk to the easiest would be alpha NTs, because even if I would bore half the people to sleep with what I'm saying, usually I can say whatever and they respond. People I have too much distance to talk to correctly would be deltas and gammas. I either feel like there is too much of a disconnect to be able to say anything that will affect them or that I can't understand their motivations correctly. This all affects whether I can keep their minds busy or not.

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    I entertain everyone. Entertaining is fun. I like it a lot.
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    I'm normally fine not being entertained for most periods of time. I think an LII gift is withstanding a lot of boredom. But normally when I'm mentaly exhausted and can't get lost in my thoughts any more (say after spending ages studying, or after a busy day when I'm wanting to just sleep) I'll want stimulation from people.

    I find that extroverts need to be entertained more. I've been learning to be OK with my introversion, so just not doing anything when I cbs, and other introverts are more OK with that. Ethical extroverts, on the other hand, are the worst. Logical extroverts are often able to talk about stuff they're interested with only mild prodding from me, which means they don't need to be entertained as much as heard - and listening is less energy intense.
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    I've found myself trying to entertain (mostly by telling stories and trying to appear the most outgoing possible) several EIIs, SEIs and one LII. The EIIs lost interest pretty quickly to my great chagrin while the LII didn't seem to mind. With the SEIs it's not so much "entertainment" since it usually turns into a conversation.
    I've never tried to entertain groups, only single people.

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    I'm more concerned with being entertained than in entertaining others. Typically, my thoughts entertain me and I don't need other people to be entertained.

    I don't like being pressured into trying to entertain others. I'm not that good at it. I still don't like being seen as boring even though I probably am perceived that way by many.
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    i'm usually bothered by people trying to entertain me because it distracts me from thinking

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    Yeah, I kind of echo the idea that it's more a Si/Ne thing to feel the need to entertain others. I catch desire in people wanting to be entertained and that they almost expect it. It generally annoys the shit out of me. They're free to leave at any time, and they usually do.

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    Not sure about the types, but I noticed that I come off really too serious/stern in groups - and I just bring the energy down.

    Or the opposite. I say one thing, and everybody cracks up - and also talks about it for a long time. I kinda just drop one little bomb and everybody else provides the follow through. Both online and IRL =D My mom says one minute I'm really happy and sociable, the next I'm really negative/in a moody/self-absorbed/anti-social place lol.

    I don't really strike a natural balance. The natural flow of conversation is still awkward for me, and makes me feel uncomfortable. =/

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    what does entertaining mean?

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    what does entertaining mean?


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    it's an si/ne sort of thing? really? yay it's not me therefore it's you style thinking. it's hard keeping an si/typing in this place.

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    My longest-lasting best friend in school was very introverted, probably EII or SEI. She was pleasant company, but didn't talk much and her intelligence level was lower than mine. So I often felt like her entertainment. I would do most of the talking, and when she laughed I felt I was doing it right.

    As an extrovert, I sometimes feel like it's my duty to keep conversation going, to keep people from growing bored. And I was considering whether there was a type this was more prevalent with.

    I thought I don't have that much with LIIs, then remembered I've behaved like an ESE to entertain an LII before.
    I don't think I feel the need to entertain LSIs, mostly because I know if I tried I'd be likely to annoy them.
    I do think I feel the need to entertain SLIs, but mostly because I don't expect anyone else to.
    I also often feel the need to entertain EIIs.
    I guess I don't see extroverts as needing entertained as much, but as needing stimulated. Like just talking would be enough for an introvert, but with an extrovert they would want a thing going on.

    Of course, it's more relaxing to not feel the need to entertain anyone (including myself).
    I was wondering what others' views on this were. (Maybe it's related to my stacking.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post

    I don't think I feel the need to entertain LSIs, mostly because I know if I tried I'd be likely to annoy them.
    I do think I feel the need to entertain SLIs, but mostly because I don't expect anyone else to.



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    ESI, for some reason. But I only have one example, so maybe its not type related. Or, maybe its how one feels about a Supervisee? My Alzheimer's Mom is ESI, and she frequently seeks attention. She does it by asking questions, one after the other after the other. Because of her affliction, unfortunately, it the same questions over and over. (All the time: "Are we going out now??" also, 'Where did all the people go??"). I know its because she wants entertainment, so, I have to stop and do something with her, and if I don't there is no stopping the questions. Often its a walk. (she gets a LOT of them!) Or string beads. And its not just her affliction. When I was growing up, she would do a similar thing, with asking questions, like the "How was your day?" when we came home from school. I felt such pressure to come up with something, and, if it was too short, then came more questions and her irritation if it was not "entertaining" enough (she did not say it was not entertaining; I just knew I had to make it "better"-sounding, to generate more details and specifics that seemed meaningless to me, in order to satisfy her). She wanted a report, and she wanted it to be entertaining enough...

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    Don't feel the need to entertain: LSI, LII, ESE, EIE, EII, LSE

    Feel the need to entertain: IEE, SLI, SEI, ILE, SEE, ESI, IEI, SLE, ILI, LIE

    Interesting almost all the ones I feel like I would want to entertain are Ep/Ip except for LIE and ESI

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    I feel it really depends on the person and can not be so easily generalized, but I believe, that SLI needs perhaps the least entertiment , while SEE needs the most of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    what does entertaining mean?


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    i don't really feel the need to entertain anyone or really anything about it... i can see why if one felt obligated to entertain another that this might be a problem. mainly, i can be fairly good at entertaining myself when i'm alone, which i am most of the time. i suspect i have poor awareness on this matter... i probably am not noticing desires to entertain or be entertained around me. i am always very aware of my own level of boredom, interest or stimulation though. usually i feel boredom is imposed by an environment, like if a task at work is boring, but i must get it done, so the boredom drags on in an unbearable way. so i am aware of a need to escape these boring oppositions > a need to be entertained. also, because i hate boring situations i can't get out of, i tend to be sympathetic to other people who are in boring situations they can't get out of.

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    I feel stuck trying to entertain most intuitives, but especially EIIs and LIIs. That is some low key infuriating shit. Next would probably be beta NFs (though this varies--I've met some IEIs who naturally took up just as much of the burden as I did... I cherish those people lmao), then ILEs, then gamma NTs, then IEEs. I hardly ever feel the need to entertain beta STs, gamma SFs or LSEs. SLIs would be the sensors I feel it with the most. alpha SFs... (shrug)

    With gamma NTs, I feel like I can easily get on the same page with them, but if I don't give them enough Se (let's be honest, I never do, lmfao) then they look for greener pastures. And that's fine with me. Sometimes LIEs' pushiness gets stressful--it's hard to tell them "no" without being too forceful and acting like a dick.
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    i don't feel the need to entertain people. i'm quiet and when i'm around other people who are quiet i sort of expect that they'll either entertain themselves, talk, or suck it up like i do, lol...i don't feel like all of the responsibility is on me (barring the more blatant "awkward silence" moments).

    around some IxTx types i naturally become more animated and feeling a happy desire to entertain than usual. afaict, its not limited by temperament or quadra, but just the occasional introverted logical type i feel an immediate chemistry with. maybe something about the cold-blooded communication style.

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    I entertain everyone with a game of cards against humanity
    ..while they play I serve goodies. Or, I'll put on a movie. I'm terribly quiet and attentive in one on one so I'm boring and not very talkative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krieger View Post
    i'm usually bothered by people trying to entertain me because it distracts me from thinking
    hmmm... sounds Fe-POLR...
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    I don't mind being entertained but I can also keep myself occupied rather easily. All I need is a computer with a decent internet connection and boom, I'm good. I'd like for someone to come entertain me from time to time though, but I'm not very good at doing it myself. If I am made to entertain them, if talking about complex philosophical or scientific shit isn't working (it rarely does sadly), I resort to my morbid, dark, blunt sense of humor. It's hard to just "produce" it out of thin air though, I usually need them to supply me with a story or an occurrence in their life that I then twist in dark, usually socially unacceptable ways into a cruel joke at someone else's expense. So long as they don't like this person (they usually don't) they start laughing their asses off.

    For instance, the boss at my mom's work gives her a lot of flack and she complained the person had no idea how to schedule people (thus she just makes her do the extra jobs that someone else should have been doing). I inquired about her boss's appearance (rather portly and ugly according to her) and inferred that her boss was a dumb bimbo bitch along with other scathing insults. She didn't disagree. Then she played a message she had left her and, sure enough, she even had the "bimbo voice" as I like term it (you know it when you hear it). Upon remarking on that she nearly fell over laughing.

    I fear large groups as a result of this. In a large group the chance of someone actually liking the person I'm ripping to shreds increases dramatically, meaning if I start doing it in a large group I am likely to be either ostracized, punched in the face, or shot because "X isn't like that you asshole!", "You're a horrible person, how can you be so mean!", and so on. Thus, if a large group begins to form around me I try to escape the situation as quickly as possible.

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