It is painful when people I "Like this post" get into a storm over something I don't particularly care about.
It is painful when people I "Like this post" get into a storm over something I don't particularly care about.
If realistically correcting the problem/finding solutions is the aim (and it is for me), I think that, first and foremost, it’s important to accurately identify, label and define whatever variables are contributing to the problem (in this case, conflict over resources). I’m not saying that there is an easy fix or that the problem is truly fixable, at all, but it damn sure doesn’t serve the cause to be looking in the wrong direction. So, to answer your question, no, not “better” per se, just more accurate, and, therefore, better positioned to address the issue with greater focus and precision.Originally Posted by Grendel
Yes, the combination of evolved in-group preference and competition over resources have often resulted in ethnicity/race/creed/etc... based systems of oppression– for example, it’s no coincidence that modern racism as we know it began with the European age of exploration and burgeoning capitalism. But what’s telling is that up until that point (and even after in many instances), the Europeans, all degrees of “white folk,” had been whole sale slaughtering each other over resources for thousands of years. Lol
The fact of the matter is that people will fight over resources whether they look like each other or not > the Japanese Vs Chinese Vs Koreans; Yoruba Vs Igbo; Scottish Vs. English, the Irish Vs. Northern Irish, I could go on, forever. That being the case, it’s ridiculous to make phenotype/race/ethnicity the primary feature in humanity’s ability/inability to peacefully co-exist–as has been proven time and time again, differences along those lines can be over come, and usually when there is lower wealth inequality/greater access to resources. Furthermore, it’s important to remember that what constitutes an in-group is not static and changes according to context and a plethora of other variables.
More to my main point, perhaps if there had been an equitable and mutually beneficial trade of ideas and resources with the Native Americans and with Africans (who occupied a continent with resources that would’ve arguably made them the richest on the planet) instead of relegating them to an inferior status in order to justify their disenfranchisement, the USA as we know it, with racial/ethnic brutality, inequality and injustice being the beginning of our foundation and most persistent illness, would not exist. Perhaps something better and far more egalitarian would have come to fruition.
Or even if Africa would’ve provided human labor, it could have been human labor that they were amply and justly compensated for in the form of contracts, equal pay for equal work, etc…. Perhaps less war and conquering in the name of unabashed greed and more even-handed trade would’ve allowed for a peaceful, more stable world order, with different nationalities, ethnicities and cultures living tolerantly side by side, similarly to what exists today in Western Europe.
I think of Africa being the most genetically diverse continent on earth, which means that both the lowest and highest IQs exist there–what if instead of centuries of their muted and diminished potential, they had developed alongside Europe? Perhaps by this point in time, we could have had the finest minds on the planet develop equitable/stable/just/effective means of resource distribution AND renewability.
Look at all the needless bloodshed in the Middle East that’s been spilled over oil, with ethnic/religious sectarianism being the convenient scape goat. And yet heaven forbid they focus on the actual problem and look to more renewable energy sources like solar energy (in the middle of the fucking desert). Lol More than half of the energy used in Sweden (a country with lower income equality and a higher standard of living than most countries) comes from renewable energy sources, combining high energy consumption with low carbon emissions. Sweden plans to be completely renewable by 2040–and guess what? Nobody bothers us and we don’t bother anybody. My point is that if humanity were no prioritize rectifying the true root of conflicts, i.e., competition over resources, we would probably be MORE likely to not only rid ourselves of the superficialities that divide us but the deeper ones, as well. But to your point, I'm doubtful that people have the will/guts/courage/intelligence, but I try to be hopeful (in addition to speaking "truth to power") so as to not put a bullet in my skull. lol
My "Ti" is better than yours. Do you know the difference between being tried and being removed? People are trying him with no intent to remove him because the old spectacle has gotten boring. The only immediate result of removing him would be a Mike Pence presidency, and no one believes that would be at all better. No one has anyone to put in Trump's place, and this is because they prefer scapegoating him for having the audacity to be President while not having gone to Harvard over actually challenging the neoliberal status quo. Now get back to weighing the merits of the pop-sci books Blink and Think.
That's why most of my posts until recently have been shitposts. However, now I simply post less and ignore the crazy people more, since trolls take everything as bait ("Don't feed the trolls.") I think if people ignored the trolls this forum would be dead, which makes me kind of sad because I'd rather talk to you, @mu4, etc. here.
It is painful when people I "Like this post" get into a storm over something I don't particularly care about.
Wouldn't it be mercury? In any case, I'm only routinely exposed to non-neurotoxic heavy metals because I care.
(While I'm joking, I'm not kidding. I know all the sources of lead and mercury around me and have limited it to only the usual such as old long-dried paintings, white apartment, housing, and public building walls last painted before 1973, water pipes, under the fridge, thermometers, wires which have been soldered, etc. I also know not to spray cadmium, run into a welding shop while it's being used, eat cobalt, silver, or large doses of chromium or iron, or finger-paint with really anything which is not labelled as being made for such, which is fine because I have no interest in finger-painting as of now. What do you do?)
Almost all metals are toxic to some degree. All bacteria die when in contact with copper and silver for about an hour, which is why copper makes such great water supply pipes and silver makes such great silverware.
Even Iron, which is essential to making blood, is thought to be long-term toxic at fairly low levels.
He doesn't. That's why the impeachment hearings won't result in Trump being removed. No one on the Left actually has any intent to remove him.
Yes, which is why I specified neurotoxic over generally toxic. Barely any metals are specifically neurotoxic, so I consciously avoid sources of those which would result in me ingesting them.
Yes, but you upvoted @ashlesha asking how Trump challenges the neoliberal status quo when the argument was he won't be removed because he actually doesn't challenge it and people just like having someone to blame their dog running away on while being fine with his horrible policies. There's no real plan for Trump removal, because no one is like "yes, Mike Pence is who we want" and there's no non-Pence candidate people have picked to rule until the next election either. If the Left wanted Bernie or Hillary, there would be a plan to put them in office, and the same with the Right and Cruz or Kasich. You don't just go like "whoops, no President." Anarchism doesn't even work that way.
coeruleum, what I think is most likely is that Democrats don't expect to actually remove Trump, and are doing this in an attempt to damage his credibility before the election. I don't think it'll work, and more likely than not that it'll backfire on them.
If the Democrats were smarter than I think they are, they'd make backroom deals (somehow) with Republicans to remove Trump because they think the nominee would perform better against Pence than Trump. I think Trump is likely to crush Biden or Warren in debates, and those two I think are who the party leadership would most like to win the nomination.
As for liking Ashlesha's post, I apologize; I hadn't fully read or understood your previous post, and assumed that the question she asked referred to something on the previous page I was too lazy to read. I see the misunderstanding now. シ
Yes, but Trump can still run after he's been removed if he were removed, never mind that he won't be, which is why the backfiring will be yuge.
While I agree they don't expect to remove Trump, I also believe they don't want to. The fact is, there is no viable replacement for Trump because Democrats can't even begin to all stand behind a single candidate, and no one is making a new party that actually would have one. Everyone is attached to their old loyalties even when the stakes are an actual American fascist leader (though so far nowhere near as bad as ******,) so I stand by people loving to hate Trump and blame their breakup on him vulgarly insulting fat girls more than actually hating him. I think the pain of the WASP establishment systemically losing power is greater for them personally than the pain of dealing with horrible Trump policies and publicity. The only reason people love looking up to WASPs even when they're as horrible as Hillary is a huge failure of imagination, which is why people obsess over Trump so much. People like the figure of the WASP because Americans and Brits have traditionally spurned education. I can't even begin to be enamored with the WASP despite not being a fan of hierarchy-free societies. The WASP is a bad ideal, and I can't accept no ideal either because there are too many other ideals accessible to my imagination even if others are mentally blind to them.
Our hatred is directed at many concrete things. Family separation for the purpose of deterrence for example. Rolling back of environmental regulations. Erasure of indigenous people, willful cruelty, certified white supremacists in the White House. Trump will never be ******, but he might just be the puppet in the hands of those who know that if you appeal to his ego, you can get anything you want. He is a sad little narcissist who is being moved around by the Millers and played by the Republicans who are selling their souls for judges. They are very smart about this - they are causing just enough damage for us to scramble and try to protect the vulnerable and lose sight of the bigger picture.
But if you don't see the deliberate cruelty and greed of this ruthless, soulless presidency, you are willfully blind to it.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Everyone sees it, but no one does anything about it. Trump could be ******, but he won't. He's as bad as ******, but people aren't hurricanes that are as strong or weak as the hot and cold air makes them. Some people are brittle, and all the ill desire in them will be exactly what does them in.
lol Just because you confidently spout whatever inane nonsense and assert that as true, does not make it so. The proof is in the pudding and you've yet to successfully dismantle any of my arguments because you don't have the capacity. How the fuck are you supposed to be such an allegedly competent debater and yet I can't even trust that you understand the words that YOU YOURSELF USE > "People don't despise Trump or he'd be impeached" lol Evidently, you are the one who does not know that the word impeachment only refers to the process of charging an official and doesn't involve removal.
And you keep offering unsubstantiated assertion after unsubstantiated assertion, based on your own dim witted, low info rationales. If you’re going to speak on a subject, know what you are talking about--you must have enough correct information to substantiate your points and you do not > like ignoring the structural imbalances that make the American Democratic system lopsided; it's not that the vast majority of people don't want him gone because most Americans did not want him, AT ALL. HE DID NOT EVEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE, but, again, won by an outdated system loop hole (The Electoral College) put in place to give leverage to those who did not deserve it.
What's interesting to me is that throughout all of our interactions, any "knowledge" gleamed from these beloved philosophers of yours has yet to prohibit you from looking like a stupid ass bitch. Expand your "knowledge" base...if you can.
Trump uses the same rethorical style in public speeches as ******, a lot of the time, at least, as I perceive it.
*fart noises continue to spew from Alonzo's mouth*
Freedom in the realistic, meaningful sense is people having high wages and low working hours. The only reason millions of people are still stuck in wage slavery in developed Western nations is because we have paralysed, ineffective federal governments that allow for economic parasitism and grossly mismanaged and destributed wealth. America's government was in fact intentionally designed to be weak and paralyzed because it's founding fathers were wealthy aristocrats who wanted America to be a utopic playground for people like themselves, and less so for all citizens as whole. To do this they set up a government that would essentially just keep public order and maintain a military to protect against foreign threats, while having no power to reign in and subjugate the rich towards the collective good. Elections are just a way to keep the government flip-flopping between different parties and policies and prevent any effective, long-terms visions being from enacted by the government that may subjugate the bourgeoisie, for lack of a better term.
To have a happy and prosperous people, you need a government which actually has the to power to address issues and orient people towards what's best for the nation as whole. When everyone is devoted to the interest of the nation and you don't have a few individuals hoarding and squandering all the wealth, that is what makes high wages and low working hours possible, aside from other uncontrollable factors of course.
Fuck Trump
Lol. The guy is seriously polarizing.
I may have mentioned this before, but I was reminded of it again yesterday. When I was browsing prospective dates on Match and OK Cupid, I kept running across women's self-descriptions which include something like "If you support the present administration, we would not be a good match."
If Trump's support depends on educated females, he's in big trouble. He's lost one popular vote election already, and next time, he won't be running against Hillary.
Trump will have another term unless the Left runs a socialist. The classical "I'll vote Bernie or Trump" is just the German-American vote demographically speaking. The WASP aristocracy is finally having to deal with having disenfranchised an entire group that's basically in the same income and educational range as they are, and those people will only vote for not "moderate" candidates regardless of which actual political views they have. Trump's policies are horrible by any standard and he talks like a fascist because he is, but at least he makes people realize they can't take anything for granted.
D. Trump vs. B. Sanders is like Sith vs. Yeti Jedi... to me.
May the farce be with you.
I would never vote Trump and I didn't (as much as making fun of people freaking out over Trump is amusing,) but lots of Trump voters' first choice was Bernie because they wanted "an outsider." Those people don't care if you're a Sith or Jedi as long as the Force is strong with you.D. Trump vs. B. Sanders is like Sith vs. Yeti Jedi... to me.
May the farce be with you.
@coeruleum
I think a huge thing about the Trump phenomenon is that Trump has a lot of money and thus power but he also talks in a kind of very asshole-ish politically incorrect way that you do with your buddies in your living room while shooting pool or something and that is part of his appeal and why I think people feel they can relate to him and that he's more trustworthy and way "less evil" than ******-y who also has money and thus power but she talks in a more robotic repressed politically correct Illuminati way that doesn't even sound like she's a human being. So yeah I don't like Trump openly mocking people and being a typical str8 white man frat douche or whatever- but acting like a dry, overly serious Illuminati Reptile Demon serpent is much worse to me. It's like what those Starr Commonwealth creeps did to me. The polar opposite of Batman's Joker is somebody much creepier than the Joker himself but the Joker is the 'scapegoat.'
People I think are so used to powerful people being overly dry and serious and scarily authoritative with them (I WILL IMMEDIATELY SEND YOU TO PRISON IF YOU SO MUCH AS BLINK WRONG WHILE I CONDESCENDINGLY SIP MY CHAMPAGNE!) that a powerful person that openly mocks retards in front of them is like this incredible breath fresh of air. If I especially like, grew up working class not middle class- but working class, you better believe I would be more drawn to that.
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The media telling me how much I should hate Trump just makes me think Trump is a really hot fuck and they are just jealous and hateful.
Cuz Trump isn't really telling me what to do or what to think but they are trying to tell me what to think- why must they attempt to control my mind. What weak parasite brain thing do you do to have to be that way- do you know how easily THE ADVENTURERS see through your little shit? Do you know my brain is completely free and I can think of Oprah as a half-Octopus now if I wanted to and not Trump the bogeyman like you gaslight me to every 5 seconds?
Instead of trying to control my mind like a heartless asshole- the American left needs to get back to its roots and trying to touch my heart and proving they really do have my HEART in a better place instead of trying to trap my MIND like a creep. It is why right wing is just so much stronger now. They have the mind and even the heart too which is bizarre as the right wing typically shouldn't get that.
Sorry for the triple post lol.
Please read @Grendel's post for all the real issues with Trump. Just because people who freak out about Trump are worse than Trump doesn't make Trump good.
Lmao I'd be pretty worried of anyone who takes this kind of 4-chan level conspiracy seriously. I don't hate trump or anything but I'd prefer the USA not leave the paris agreement, and lets restore the diminished the role of science in federal policymaking to what it was before trump's administration came in.
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