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    LII, or ILI

    the similarity makes me want to choke them when they fuck up or say/do stupid shit, which is thankfully not that often

    I have to stop myself from reacting but I'm always screaming internally "you dense motherfucker"

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    ENxx types are just...unbelievably try hard, out of touch and quite sporadic machines for absolute doom.
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    I find that the EII can be incredibly domineering, showy, boastful, overly concerned with their self-image, convinced their opinion is fact and generally intolerant of contrary opinions.

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    ILE, especially ILE-Ne, who tend to be just playful enough with their Ti to be able to use it in the most infuriating ways against me. No, they don't care about their lack of emotional intelligence, but they make *me* care about my lack of logical structuring which is just... infuriating! How dare you.

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    SLEs.

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    No type. Some individuals...but often that’s due to misunderstandings and other external factors which are purely related to the individual’s personal circumstances
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    It's like a stereotype to say ESE, lol, poor ESEs. I've had consistently bad dealings in that department BUT!
    They've been 2s, so 1) I've likely been conflating 2s and ESEs and typing accordingly, and 2) pretty sure the issues are more unhealthy 2 related, not really ESE related.

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    I hate all of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    It's like a stereotype to say ESE, lol, poor ESEs. I've had consistently bad dealings in that department BUT!
    They've been 2s, so 1) I've likely been conflating 2s and ESEs and typing accordingly, and 2) pretty sure the issues are more unhealthy 2 related, not really ESE related.
    Aw. What experiences have you had with them?

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    I’ve been called a self righteous person, judgemental, serious, unable to have fun (promiscuous sex, clubbing parties etc, etc) by an ISFp but the same person was surprised when I was the one around to help them the most when their life was falling apart at the seams.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    SLE and ILE. Non-constructive and troublemakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Aw. What experiences have you had with them?
    Things they've had in common:

    -visibly/obviously monitoring my emotions for appropriateness to the situation, and sometimes commenting on whether they're incorrect

    -attributing positive qualities to me that I don't really have and praising them, either to push me in that direction, or out of delusion, not sure (or just that they perceive as positive. I remember saying some guy was hot and an ese laughed and was like, "of course you're joking. You prefer men like David hasselhoff." That kind of thing.)

    -brewing about their invasive helpful gestures not being appreciated with enough gusto

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    Probably ESE-Si or SLE-Ti. My most recent annoyance was with an ESE-Fe, so that type probably as well. But take in mind I don't like people in general, not even my duals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Things they've had in common:

    -visibly/obviously monitoring my emotions for appropriateness to the situation, and sometimes commenting on whether they're incorrect

    -attributing positive qualities to me that I don't really have and praising them, either to push me in that direction, or out of delusion, not sure (or just that they perceive as positive. I remember saying some guy was hot and an ese laughed and was like, "of course you're joking. You prefer men like David hasselhoff." That kind of thing.)

    -brewing about their invasive helpful gestures not being appreciated with enough gusto
    I have very similar experiences with ESE that you desire except they experience more sympathy and willingness to help me.
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Enneagram is also very important in this. You might dislike someone of a certain sociotype and enneatype, but with a different enneagram type you would not dislike them (not to mention many other factors).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Things they've had in common:

    -visibly/obviously monitoring my emotions for appropriateness to the situation, and sometimes commenting on whether they're incorrect

    -attributing positive qualities to me that I don't really have and praising them, either to push me in that direction, or out of delusion, not sure (or just that they perceive as positive. I remember saying some guy was hot and an ese laughed and was like, "of course you're joking. You prefer men like David hasselhoff." That kind of thing.)

    -brewing about their invasive helpful gestures not being appreciated with enough gusto
    Lol. I can imagine how that seems annoying.

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    ESEs. They promise you the world when they're in good spirits but act like I'm the buzzkill when I'm expecting them to keep their word. It's impossible to make any kind of plans with them because eventually they will do whatever they want anyway and expect everyone else to deal with it. The topic of finances is strictly forbidden because it kills the mood apparently. They try to be clever.

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    It depends on the context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    -visibly/obviously monitoring my emotions for appropriateness to the situation, and sometimes commenting on whether they're incorrect
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    I feel kinda bad that strong, valued Si irks me like it does. I see it's value, purpose, utility and I respect that, but it's the anchored to past experiences/sense impressions and the notion of "tradition"/that just because "things have always been done this way, they should continue to be done that way" type of shit I struggle to tolerate. And the obsession with "comfort" (as pleasure) that (unfairly) strikes me as weak, self-indulgent sloth. Lol

    There are many SLIs that I like but even more that I don’t like so they take the prize. Honorable mention goes to heterosexual, male ESEs who tend to be my arch rivals--at their worst > world class character assassinators, gossips, and chatty Kathys, though they pretend to be otherwise (so as to not be called gay lol).

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    I do see the value in each type, but I tend to have problems with ESxx types in real life, because of their 4 dimensional Se. I do not have many S contacts in general.
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    I wouldn't say dislike but ESEs are so extremely different from me in every regard, and not in a good or interesting way.

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    Actually fuck those hoes

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    It depends a lot on the maturity of the person. All types can be excellent and shitty, even when from another quadra

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    SEI by a landslide. ingratiating hedonists who are good at playing innocent (and using it to their advantage), are geared towards being "pleasant" and creating a positive atmosphere (idgaf about this). they have a childish approach to relationships ("why can't everyone just get along!") and ime they tend to see any conflict or power struggle as bad by proxy (labelling it "drama"). they seem to enjoy being useless lazy idiots with no ambition, just happy to sit on the couch and browse instagram on their phone (or stare off into space blankly). also waaay too forgiving / memory span of a goldfish. at best they're dumb horse girls, basic Live Laugh Love suburban moms, and/or empty behind the eyes NPCs that are easily ignored. also they seem to be about as common as ants. did i mention i hate SEIs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauphin View Post
    Don't worry, you're not like those other girls. You're goffic and trad.
    In fact, having lived with her for a while now, I can confirm that she is. She's not gothic, though. She simply dresses in tasteful, dark, semi-formal clothing.
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    ESE and SLE. Most SLEs I know tend to actually like me a lot but the feeling is almost never mutual which they usually don't get I guess due to Fi Polr and my lack of willingness to spell things out. Most ESEs openly dislike me on the other hand, always a new complaint with them.

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    In my work as a cook, I have recently had to work for some ILE chefs. I do not know if it is a pattern, but despite them being good at cooking, they totally suck as managers, to the point that their anti-social behaviors makes me want to strangle them. Also, there's a lot of much ado about nothing.

    ILEs are great for having a beer with while listening to some jazz, which creates expectations in non-private areas too, but working with them is very much impossible. At least with LSIs it is pretty much obvious that interactions suck in both the private and professional areas.
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    I've steered clear of many individuals of all types for various reasons. Many mirror partners seem to easily find fault with the perceptions, attitudes, tactics and or conduct of one another. However, dislike for an entire type would have more to do with one's own personal biases than something inherently flawed......

    a.k.a. I/O

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    2w3 and 3w2, particularly when base
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    some superego were most traumatic, most annoying and freaky, and the least reasonable
    not all are perceived very badly. nontypes factors may soften or accentuate IR effects

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    Gammas. Cold people are a blight.

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    Se doms can be either very good or very bad.
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    -someone who doesn't get more self-aware

    -someone who defaults to blaming environment/others (but always blaming yourself can be unconstructive also)

    -someone who is very pushy and has trouble respecting others' space

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    the above reminded me...taken from a questionnaire for mbti some time ago-

    What turns you off about a person, brand, company?

    "Overly brash with people whom they have only just met. Don’t consider other people’s personalities or shyness, overbearing. People who try to force things out of people when people are clearly uncomfortable with it."

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    ESE

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    Almost no ESEs on this website (zero regular ones) wow, I wonder if that could maybe possibly have influenced anybody’s answers

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    That'd probably be my conflictor, that is to say an ESE. Though I might mention that I actually do manage to get along with a very strong potential one of those. See, I get along famously with an LII and he's very happily married to his wife. The dual to an LII is an ESE so yeah, I might have lucked out somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Almost no ESEs on this website (zero regular ones) wow, I wonder if that could maybe possibly have influenced anybody’s answers
    ESE's and LIE's tend to be too stormy for many to handle. I usually like ESE's. The thing about them is that they all over the place doing random non conductive stuff so they need Ti chains to hold them in one place more than five seconds and not become offended by them when react. Would I want to live with one...? Eh they need Ij whips and chains.

    EIE and LSE are more so in close circle.
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