I'm curious if you have something for me now, @Adam Strange. I've been a good boy. I should probably ask Santa for this, but you're Saint Valentine's emissary now.
I'm curious if you have something for me now, @Adam Strange. I've been a good boy. I should probably ask Santa for this, but you're Saint Valentine's emissary now.
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
Buzzkill. Only thing more I'll say going forward is respect your elders, kid!Originally Posted by Moou
@Chrysalis, I see female SLE's every day. Just look in any University athletic program. They might have jobs in food service, too.
I think trolling often comes from the demonstrative function since it is a less valued but very strong function still important to the person's worldview. Theory also states it is the function people use to make fun of others they think take it too serious. An example I am seeing in forum members is those with demon Fe using it in a way that seems over the top. Base and creative Fe look smoother to me. I would say his trolling is coming from Ne and not Ni.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
lol
nope i do whatever i want bitch. besides ur not contributing shit
I like Alonzos avatar so he's an honorary dual for now
good point, yes, I was thinking of the demon as well, but exactly, it's a bit weird to think of Ni doms as master trolls (maybe because Ne is on ignore?)... the point between Fe/Te is that Fe is moved by and expresses their emotions, Te doesn't, cares more for being pragmatic, which means even less "personal involvement"... stepping front line with one's passionate judgements, on to insulting and whatnot.. hmm.. bit suspicious for a Te ; )
All types can be on the troll side, some types simply sound more serious even when trolling or messing around.
I don't come on this site to be serious, though I sound so serious generaly that people often miss it when I try to joke around. Such is life, appearances are sometimes just that.
I see IEI being trolls with demon Fi poking people's soft spots to reveal weaknesses . I guess ILI just troll with pure sarcasm or irony most of the time, although IEI can do that too.
Maybe Ni doms can be master baiters.It would just be more subtle.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
yeah, sure everyone can be a troll... we use all 8 functions anyway.. I mean the kind of trolling that's in your face, + add the emotional underpinnings... like some troll with a poker face... you think they're serious.. that could be Te (or Ni)..
I like that double entendre, fascinating piece of poetry.I see IEI being trolls with demon Fi poking people's soft spots to reveal weaknesses . I guess ILI just troll with pure sarcasm or irony most of the time, although IEI can do that too.
Maybe Ni doms can be master baiters.
Why does he need to convince you? Are you some divine being?
so demonstratively helpful
Any dual would be so happy to have such a helpfulguy like you
would be happy that you're around to guide them to the right actions.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I absolutely agree tbh, not against anyone but I agree that's the point of the site.
Adam LSE final confirmed, added to list
@Beautiful sky
Could you plz visual type this for me:
stunning-australian-pelican.jpg
I just laughed thinking of sol trolling us with Se.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
stop quoting me please
It seems as though you like to stick a knife in people' back. I'm not that type of a person so you should go around finding someone like you.
Also Adam is LIE
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I'm flattered that you want me as a dual.
if Alonzo doesn't demonstrate his knowledge well with this to you all then I'm not sure what knowledge means to you
I don't know what basic ass, outdated, rudimentary "school" of Socionics you descend from, but I don't adhere to it.
Gamma values are not your "pearl clutching" Delta values.
According to some Socionists, we have different +/- values assigned to how we use Te.
You also confuse and conflate Se with Fe; I'm try to make an energetic impact (which is why I bold my words or capitalize them) but not trying to impart emotions to anyone, firstly, and, secondly, I AM NOT A FUCKING FE EMPATH. That, in and of itself, precludes me from being a EIE or any other type that values Fe. You can't presume to know what I'm neurologically capable of (or not) better than I know myself. PERIOD.
95% of my arguments are rooted in sound logic and a strong rationale--I qualify everything I say and provide examples/anecdotes. FOH.
I haven't seen him hold a personal grudge...are you doing some weird Se thing where you try to present the object/person in such a way to fool people's perception?You take yourself too seriously. I'm not reading long winded, exhausting comments over a half hearted post I made
On the other hand, you do seem to have value judgments of people and hold personal grudges which makes EIE seem more likely
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Did you happen to catch the part where I said "with (per google, read: indicating the material used for some purpose) my creative Ni?"
Te purpose/objective: to revenge troll. Te unlocks Ni's expensive, black crocodile skinned briefcase in order to access the day organizer/planner and Ne Macbook Pro with the appropriate documents by which to accomplish Te's petty ass objective with high effectiveness. The documents enclosed include detailed templates for the roll out of mobilizing Se data points, Si sense impressions and role Fe's verbal "expressiveness" and fluidity. All the while, Te's suggestive Fi cracked iPhone 4 is vibrating in its pocket with nonstop SMS messages that read "pissed off."
Consciously speaking, this was all a part of Te's plan.Maybe one day you'll learn that everyone is capable of everything, albeit with differing facility; and therein lies the answer to this conundrum (for the willfully obtuse) > if you can point out where I utilize 4D Fe/3D Fi, there'll actually be some credit and consideration given to your opinion. I'll wait.
ILI's love to gather hate. Some even resort to say socially very inappropriate things just to get negativity. Just few days ago one ILI tried to make me feel bad about myself but made total ass of himself by totally breaking social code (maybe they think that they can find personal triggers...).I see IEI being trolls with demon Fi poking people's soft spots to reveal weaknesses . I guess ILI just troll with pure sarcasm or irony most of the time, although IEI can do that too.
Maybe Ni doms can be master baiters.
It is their special power.
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@Alonzo
Really? You're going to continue to drive the point home and make someone who does not know the functions and their manifestations further upset at you and start pointing fingers at random functions in order to further upset you?
Go after someone who cares about
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Get em Al.Did you happen to catch the part where I said "with (per google, read: indicating the material used for some purpose) my creative Ni?"
Te purpose/objective: to revenge troll. Te unlocks Ni's expensive, black crocodile skinned briefcase in order to access the day organizer/planner and Ne Macbook Pro with the appropriate documents by which to accomplish Te's petty ass objective with high effectiveness. The documents enclosed include detailed templates for the roll out of mobilizing Se data points, Si sense impressions and role Fe's verbal "expressiveness" and fluidity. All the while, Te's suggestive Fi cracked iPhone 4 is vibrating in its pocket with nonstop SMS messages that read "pissed off."
Consciously speaking, this was all a part of Te's plan.
But I have a genuine question - Can EIEs be vengeful/vindictive, because I'd describe myself as both of those things.
I don't think all ILIs are like that, then again I'm probably not ILI lol but I still believe not all ILIs are like that at all, that ILI you mentioned could be a type 7
Yeah, it's inconsistent with ILIs I've known. I mean I'm more likely to love gathering hate than any ILI I know haha.
ILIs with Fe PoLR can be insensitive albeit unintentionally. This is why I don't like being called insensitive, it applies it's unintentional. When I cause a stir, when I offend it is intentional and I know exactly which button to press and when.
So interesting storyDid you happen to catch the part where I said "with (per google, read: indicating the material used for some purpose) my creative Ni?"
Te purpose/objective: to revenge troll. Te unlocks Ni's expensive, black crocodile skinned briefcase in order to access the day organizer/planner and Ne Macbook Pro with the appropriate documents by which to accomplish Te's petty ass objective with high effectiveness. The documents enclosed include detailed templates for the roll out of mobilizing Se data points, Si sense impressions and role Fe's verbal "expressiveness" and fluidity. All the while, Te's suggestive Fi cracked iPhone 4 is vibrating in its pocket with nonstop SMS messages that read "pissed off."
Consciously speaking, this was all a part of Te's plan.
Monday my mother (ILI) receives a letter in the mail and i read it and told her "mom, you have an appointment Thursday at 9am."
My mother has been reading this letter, requirements on it and shuffling it for about two days now. Come Thursday morning i FORGOT all about the appointment. My mother walks into my room at 7:30; I've been awake since 4:30 and reminds me about the appointment, which I did not write down on a calendar and in my Ni devalued way did not plan for it and completely forgot
So, I get up while she's preparing everything else around her to leave. Come to find she had set her clothing up to wear the night before (which is always usual for my mom since she's always prepared). Here I am say "heck why not just wear the clothes you wore yesterday" to some this may seem gross but I promise I changed my underwear. Meanwhile she always has her clothes neatly hung up and mine is in a pile.
She's set the baby's breakfast up on the table and has had her coffee already...like "how? do you have all this energy and desire to stay in the moment?" I get up casually, have my coffee two hours may have passed by and I may have done two things.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Maritsa please stop, no one gives a fuck. We do not give a shit about your Si anecdotes.
Yeah most likely
You use Fe with Si
Fe with Ni care about people and their feelings.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
So I'd assume if an ILI did want to gather hate they'd just press random buttons until they found one.
Fe with Si? The combination that cares about creating a comfortable environment. LOL, get fucked pelican hoe
Haha
EIE
In connection with this the EIE places an important role on morality, taken aback by society he himself strives into those spheres, where, in his opinion, this criteria is best matched. Being a very emotional man he easily may be made victim of strange misfortunes. Towards others he is capable of exemplifying warmth and sincere sympathy, he is very courteous and inclined to prove to be of service, at least when prolonged participation is not required.
Something is out of match
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Indeed, I am a very emotional person. I relate to all of that in my general life. Thanks for confirming I'm an EIE.
Most definitely. They're among the best at it, when they want to be. With lead Fe being its enforcer? Damn, hide ya wife, hide ya kids. lol But revenge is one of Enneagram 8's "vices" and for me, that's where a lot of that impulse comes from; without a doubt, 8/8 wing is also a part of your tritype. In the past, it used to drive me mad but at this point, it just manifests like mild indigestion, in the form of something "lighthearted" like mild online trolling. lol But, fortunately, it still has its limits > I'm less inclined to troll a 20 y/o for some relatively minor infraction than I am some hyper grown ass man. When @Sol soon becomes an octogenarian, I'll lay off.
Ahh this makes so much sense, would you say the fact that w8 and 8 are both in my tritype could make me look more like a core 8 than I actually am. Then I've also heard 3s (my actual core type) can be quite vindictive as well, and as I'm very ambitious and driven I think it could all sort of mush together as a whole to create the formula that makes me such a spiteful bitch at times lol.
I think that demonstrative is the function used to show the limits of the element used: XLE and the instability of what is called factual, XEI and the mutability of the personal relations etc.
You have neither been warm nor sympathetic.
Continuing
" Wonderfully knows how to manipulate others by their feelings. At the same time feels greatly wounded himself, sometimes seeming like “a man without skin”. He strongly depends on the opinion of those that surround him, they, without fail, take the role of student or spectator."
Like I said you seem to have a pretty thick skin for someone who claims to be EIE and you are ESE. Final type.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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