No, that was me pointing out the post was a request for Fi-Se. Fi-Se breaks relationships by setting up a boundary. ESI turtles.Originally Posted by Adam Strange
No, that was me pointing out the post was a request for Fi-Se. Fi-Se breaks relationships by setting up a boundary. ESI turtles.
"Cute" is really not what the "aggressor" types are like, especially the "negativist" aggressors like ESIs. Even the Fi-ESIs, who present themselves as stable, even, balanced and calm, at some point turn to pressing, as I heard an Fi-ESI housemate tell her (non-dual EJ) boyfriend "to obey her" many times - and there's really nothing "adorable" in all this attempt to press him to obey her (although it tends to be unexpected, and perhaps satisfying and sexually inviting to the LIEs).
^ http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ion-(Filatova)If she manages to make someone obey – she secretly feels satisfied but does not openly show this.
She sounds like a bitch. Being a bitch is not type related. Even though there are people (here) that like to pretend it is.
@silke
You can disagree with me and that is fine. I respect your knowledge and experience, greatly, especially giving appreciation towards your large database of translations. I have seen your expressed attitudes towards ESI, for example the Dr Phil episode, for several years. In general the overall feel might be right, but you fail to notice many nuances regarding FiSe and I am, frankly, a little irritated in seeing them.
@Jeremy8419
No, I didn't "forget" the "hahaha" I was being dead serious. And interesting point, I just always assumed LIE women were 'massive' in size and bossy, I'm super short/reserved.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
That's their low Fi. Their Se is normative, but they don't recognize when it starts to damage relationships.
What's up with EIE and IEI being dubbed ******
*edits* Holy shit did it really just bleep out H i t l e r ???? ^
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Welcome to the 16types!
I drop the F bomb here on a daily basis and it bleeps out a historical figures name.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
I want an angel EIE.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
It's probably best to not try and assign a type to Adolf.
You have to make them be an angel. That's kinda the point.
Are you going to be a good girl?
Yes. I'll be a good girl.
If you're not a good girl, I'll have to punish you.
I'll be a goof girl. I promise.
Okay, but I expect you to ....
I will! I promise.
That's my good girl.
Now go do this...
Are you shittin me
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Yes, honey.... he is banned from the shoutbox too and those who are banned tend to be more aggressive.
There's no fucking way I'm telling a grown man what to do and saying be a good boy, what would they offer except another chore on LSIs list. This is all wrong.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
You have to make them be an angel. That's kinda the point.
Are you going to be a good girl?
Yes. I'll be a good girl.
If you're not a good girl, I'll have to punish you.
I'll be a goof girl. I promise.
Okay, but I expect you to ....
I will! I promise.
That's my good girl.
Now go do this...Delta Caregiver with a penchant for bondage meets female Beta Aggressor. Sparks fly, Hijinks ensue.
LSI Stripper, if you haven't seen it already, you might want to check out Erotic Attitudes: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...otic-Attitudes
I'm EII lol. LSI is my super-ego, so I understand it from a "yeah, I guess I have to do this at least some" perspective. That's an accurate scenario though. LSI force of laws and EIE desire to be the obedient good girl.
"Unconsciously gets inspired by an idea or possibility to show his best when defendig some cause. He is flattered by being presented as a champion, standard-bearer or defender of a just cause, protector of dear persons or values."
And those who don't tend to be passive aggressive? Interesting.
I am NA- yes. If questions, address them to @n0ki
NA?
Actually, it's possible. I learnt a lot from hanging out with some manipulative Fe ego girls back in school and a few more experiences later were also interesting to analyze. When I say manipulative, I mean people trying to use their emotional skills purely for self-serving goals.
It's not taboo, heh.
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Given your spat with Eliza, you sure could do with some open-mindedness yourself. She gets paid for having a specific skill-set, it's a job whether you like it or not.
Reason is a whore.
Lol at you thinking you're a "decent man". You also probably describe yourself as "nice".
Seems I mis-expressed myself: I completely agree with you that Eliza was way out of line and I would not in a million years say that you should "empathise with her" or whatever crap. However it's ironic, given that Eliza was close-minded to you, that you should do the same thing to Pole Ninja.
*shrug* Athletic and dancing skills and in many cases heavy-duty emotional labour (and maybe other stuff.) Hopefully people who dislike her job will self-select out of her dating pool so she can find someone decent for her.
Reason is a whore.
Ne is also quite useful for manipulation.
I don't... mu4 is still too patient, it seems.Ah, so this forum openly tolerates this troll. Nice. Wow.
Pole tricks. Break dancing on a stick. My crotch never touches the pole, that's for the new girls with no talent. Men want me the way I am, pole dancer or not (in response to your other comment). Pole dancing is a real job, I fill out W2's just like any other tax payer, clock in/out, got licensed, background checked/fingerprinted, and I have a certified pole instructor train me to become better at my trade. Being a hitman is illegal, by the way.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Yes, I can explain things logically even tho I am thinking, "Wow, someone needs to donkey punch this fucktard from behind already." You're not my dual, I'm LSI, not LII.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Ah, well I didn't know you were leaning on EIE, I remember seeing ESE in your stats.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Meta's typing thread is closed so I'll just post it here that I still firmly believe meta to be a very clear cut EIE-Fe. Pretty clear conflict with the deltas on this forum and way too dramatic and grandiose for ESE or any other type.
In my experience (and an LSI guy's), EIE men are either totally smooth and on top of the world; or whiny losers who are emotional wrecks, looking for a savior.
In the LSI's words: "They are either really great or totally messed up."
If you come across an unhealthy Type 3 EIE, then yes, they are most likely going to be narcissistic manipulators who can rip your heart out. Or, they are totally vacant deep-down from wearing all those masks all the time.
Most EIEs are Type 2, so they tend to be helpful, likable, charming and enthusiastic on the positive side; emotionally unstable and like clingy mommas on the negative side.
Whether an EIE man is great or horrible depends largely on how they are doing in life, how many people they are in positive contact with, how fulfilled they feel, etc.
If I were a female LSI, I would not write off all EIE men just because some are horrible; any type can be horrible when unhealthy.
The cool EIE men are really great.
The main reason I am disinclined to date a male EIE personally, is the fact that they are a fellow Beta Victim and lack– I am so Victim, another Victim would just ruin the show, haha.
I could not see our interaction being harmonious and balancing with two Victims like that; unless the EIE is Fe subtype and/or really confident, I cannot see me being with a fellow Beta NF.
(Fellow IEI is out of the question entirely.)
At last: @Adam Strange is biased, dating an LSI female. That is why he is recommending LIE-LSI, haha.
LIE-LSI is not a "bad" match by any means, but I would say EIE is still much better for LSI. Aka, I'd recommend EIE over LIE.
(However, you are more likely going to find LIE men than EIE men; EIE men are a bit more rare. So, if you happen to find an LIE guy with whom you hit it off really well, go for it.)
P.S @LSI Pole Ninja : How do you feel about dating an IEI guy?
Would Fe base be scared of Ti base? I doubt it. They are both bit similar. EIEs can be bit snobbish (and LSIs... you know it). Some of them can be very bright.
But let's look at the alternative: semi duality:
Well LSI-ESE dynamics can be hilarious. ESE feeds him constantly and LSI whines about it but he still eats it.Becoming overweight by proxy. You have been warned.
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Sounds legit. I would date an IEI guy, when I thought I was SLE I assumed my dual was IEI anyway.In my experience (and an LSI guy's), EIE men are either totally smooth and on top of the world; or whiny losers who are emotional wrecks, looking for a savior.
In the LSI's words: "They are either really great or totally messed up."
If you come across an unhealthy Type 3 EIE, then yes, they are most likely going to be narcissistic manipulators who can rip your heart out. Or, they are totally vacant deep-down from wearing all those masks all the time.
Most EIEs are Type 2, so they tend to be helpful, likable, charming and enthusiastic on the positive side; emotionally unstable and like clingy mommas on the negative side.
Whether an EIE man is great or horrible depends largely on how they are doing in life, how many people they are in positive contact with, how fulfilled they feel, etc.
If I were a female LSI, I would not write off all EIE men just because some are horrible; any type can be horrible when unhealthy.
The cool EIE men are really great.
The main reason I am disinclined to date a male EIE personally, is the fact that they are a fellow Beta Victim and lack
I could not see our interaction being harmonious and balancing with two Victims like that; unless the EIE is Fe subtype and/or really confident, I cannot see me being with a fellow Beta NF.
(Fellow IEI is out of the question entirely.)
At last: @Adam Strange is biased, dating an LSI female. That is why he is recommending LIE-LSI, haha.
LIE-LSI is not a "bad" match by any means, but I would say EIE is still much better for LSI. Aka, I'd recommend EIE over LIE.
(However, you are more likely going to find LIE men than EIE men; EIE men are a bit more rare. So, if you happen to find an LIE guy with whom you hit it off really well, go for it.)
P.S @LSI Pole Ninja : How do you feel about dating an IEI guy?
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
I wouldn't be against someone feeding me, could save me time and help with my muscle gains.Would Fe base be scared of Ti base? I doubt it. They are both bit similar. EIEs can be bit snobbish (and LSIs... you know it). Some of them can be very bright.
But let's look at the alternative: semi duality:
Well LSI-ESE dynamics can be hilarious. ESE feeds him constantly and LSI whines about it but he still eats it.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
EIE men are not rare; it is rare that they accept they are EIE.
lol, an EIE is not going to feed you, you will be the one who ends up shopping for supplies
That I know. I'm a very skilled shopper and don't mind the task.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
I believe you are supposed to ask n0ki.
I don't even remember what I was talking about lol
Have you tried talking to @Kill4Me ? He's EIE, harmonizing subtype
are sexy.
I want to be ISTp.
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These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other’s condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant’s surface formality. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.
Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.
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