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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
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    Check out the sample issues. They include articles on handwriting.
    Mine was actually closest to the Four's style. Although it's hardly represented by any of them. My writing has differed greatly over the years, but it's always been relatively neat and tidy. Sometimes my 'n's and 'm's are jagged, but the 'y's, 'g's and 'j's are curved. I write small letters, and my joining up varies. Normally, the 't's, 'u's, 'w's, 'h's, 'e's and the 'o's are joined; the rest are written detached. I'll take a picture when my webcam arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Mine was actually closest to the Four's style. Although it's hardly represented by any of them. My writing has differed greatly over the years, but it's always been relatively neat and tidy. Sometimes my 'n's and 'm's are jagged, but the 'y's, 'g's and 'j's are curved. I write small letters, and my joining up varies. Normally, the 't's, 'u's, 'w's, 'h's, 'e's and the 'o's are joined; the rest are written detached. I'll take a picture when my webcam arrives.
    If you wrote on having low energy levels AND having an E4-like handwriting, the possibility of being E4 should not be excluded.

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    I'd like to note that sometimes I'll cross through words like I did above, or I will make a box around the word and fill the box to cover the word up.

    I was tempted to throw this away and start over because of it, but, it still gives a good indication of my handwriting.

    Should I add my signature (or maybe some write something down where I don't feel like I'm trying too hard to be neat)?
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    hmmm ... I'm not around any scanners, etc. ATM, but I'll try to get some o' my HW up too.
    But I wanted to point out, before anybody posts anything else, that all the books on HW analysis suggest writing on unlined paper, and not with any preconceived subjects. So, class notes and notebook paper are less indicative of personality - the function of what and how to record info interferes with your "natural" penmanship.
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    I've noticed that guys' handwriting tends to be more pointed and girls' more rounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I've noticed that guys' handwriting tends to be more pointed and girls' more rounded.
    Dudes are stereotypically rational, Girls are stereotypically irrational.

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    ancient notes from a spanish grammar class

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    ah, my dad's handwriting. it's very logical, IMO.



    mine is a little like this when i'm trying to make something very legible, even with the backwards slant.

    his is usually very chickenscratch-ish, typically doctor's handwriting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    ah, my dad's handwriting. it's very logical, IMO.
    Is him LSI ? It's like Herzy's but cleaner.

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    machintruc, sorry to be self absorbed, but does my handwriting (in your opinion) give any indication of my enneagram or socionics type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellothere View Post
    machintruc, sorry to be self absorbed, but does my handwriting (in your opinion) give any indication of my enneagram or socionics type?
    Your socionic type influences 62% of your behaviours, including handwriting. By focusing on some aspects of writing (consciously or subconsciously), you'll be likely to have some patterns of handwriting.

    For example, rigid types are likely to have rigid movements. You have rigid movements when you drive a car or write something.

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    62%? ROFL.

    Did you know that 62% of statistics are pulled out of someone's ass?
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    Does this 62% have to do with the golden rectangle? (or ratio)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    62%? ROFL.

    Did you know that 62% of statistics are pulled out of someone's ass?
    No, this is the Golden Ratio.

    Alexander Mitin said that when a dichotomy sets a pole in functions preference, the preferred pole has 62% of strength.

    For example, 62% of things you do are related to strong functions, whereas 38% are related to weak functions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Does this 62% have to do with the golden rectangle? (or ratio)
    That's natural ! That's a natural law of logic : each pure correlation is approximately equal to .618

    It's pretty much like Pareto's 20-80 Law

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    This is not a hard science. There aren't any numbers.
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    I posted this a while ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    So how can you, Machintruc, criticize Hitta for saying that everything under the sun is type-related... when you seem to think that everything under the sun conforms to the golden ratio???
    Because it's a "natural" ratio. For example, leaves on trees are golden-ratio-related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Your socionic type influences 62% of your behaviours, including handwriting. By focusing on some aspects of writing (consciously or subconsciously), you'll be likely to have some patterns of handwriting.

    For example, rigid types are likely to have rigid movements. You have rigid movements when you drive a car or write something.
    this was very helpful.



    hmm, Diana your parents' handwriting (especially your Dad's) reminds me of mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom View Post
    This is not a hard science. There aren't any numbers.
    LOL @ your Ti PoLR. The rules of mathematics don't need numbers to exist, we only use numbers to explain them with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca View Post
    LOL @ your Ti PoLR. The rules of mathematics don't need numbers to exist, we only use numbers to explain them with them.
    "Your socionic type influences 62% of your behaviours" is not a rule of mathematics. It's just a random number he pulled out of his ass.
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    Not sure why I went the paranoid route with my signature. I think you'll get the picture though. Just written on standard typing paper, stream of consciousness style.

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    Hypotheses :

    Aristocratic types write like this \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ due to verbal - or -
    Democratic types write like this //////////////// due to verbal + or +
    (as far as I know, this is valable for those who write from left to right, with the right hand)

    Process types write straight - i.e. with fixed angle
    Result types write like waves - i.e. with variable angle

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    Yeah, I forgot - I'm left-handed, and it took me years of work (like literally since 3rd grade) to write with the correct hand position and achieve some sort of neatness to it.

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    I have carpal tunnel syndrome from my many years as a secretary and newspaper reporter. Typing doesn't bother my hands too much, but gripping a pen or pencil and hand writing does. I did a ton of that when taking notes at meetings and when interviewing people for stories back in the day. So my handwriting is probably messier than it would be otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Hypotheses :

    Aristocratic types write like this \\ due to verbal - or -
    Democratic types write like this //////////////// due to verbal + or +
    (as far as I know, this is valable for those who write from left to right, with the right hand)

    Process types write straight - i.e. with fixed angle
    Result types write like waves - i.e. with variable angle
    Why?

    Also one thing to consider is the influence of school. When I was in elementary school teachers were real big on slanting to the right and correcting you if you did not do this (apparently they had nothing more important to do).

    And of course, I think it's generally easier for left-handers to slant to the left and for right-handers to slant to the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Why?

    Also one thing to consider is the influence of school. When I was in elementary school teachers were real big on slanting to the right and correcting you if you did not do this (apparently they had nothing more important to do).

    And of course, I think it's generally easier for left-handers to slant to the left and for right-handers to slant to the right.
    Influence from school doesn't work permanently.

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    I'm liking this thread - good ideas and some fun too

    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Hypotheses :

    Aristocratic types write like this \\\\ due to verbal - or -
    Democratic types write like this //////////////// due to verbal + or +
    (as far as I know, this is valable for those who write from left to right, with the right hand)
    If this is true, I would be a Socionics Aristocratic (Beta, Delta).
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    These types are missing :

    LSE, LSI, SLI, ILI

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    D'oh!
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    Hmm... I've got a few small ILI 'samples', seeing as I pass notes with one in class on a regular basis.

    Here are a few (his is in red):





    Edit: Y'know, I'm not sure if I buy into this handwriting correllation, but it sure is interesting either way! Is there a way we could create a 'bank' of sorts and get more of each type so we can see if there's any stronger of a pattern? It would be fun either way.
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    I will be expecting free typings. Crippled hand is not a valid one

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    @asd: Friendly, open, likes people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    lol is this tongue-in-cheek...?
    General slant of writing: Forward slant = friendly, likes people. Vertical slant = very logical. Backwards slant = wants to keep people at a distance.

    Open loops = open to new experience.

    Bonus:
    Size of loops: Large loops = loves money. Small loops = conserves money.
    Generally smooth and rounded writing = female personality. Sharp and angular strokes = male personality.
    On cursive "I" (or in this case, "F", because I couldn't find an "I". Maybe lack of ego. Lol.) the size of the upper loop = mother oriented, size of lower loop = father oriented. So father-oriented, because the lower loop is outsized. (I might be misremembering this last bit and have it backwards.)

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    @one, logical female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    interesting they say EII typically has sharp or angled handwriting in the article I posted.
    I don't think sociotype correlates strongly to how one expresses oneself in handwriting art.

    I've seen handwriting analysis used for identifying disturbed and criminal people.

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    This is really interesting, thanks for posting

    So apparently ILE all write in huge letters (r? = 0.89) which is a reaaally high number compared to most correlations in there (+/-0.3 is large)
    By this study and also the MBTI correlations I should most likely be LII by my writing truth is I write with tiny letters in order to save paper so I don't have to go and buy new notebooks that often lol
    illegible.PNG
    The pic is all blurry because the letters are small, the lowercase ones are probably about a millimeter tall. This is my 'neat' font for taking notes btw lol. For notes that I intend to read in the future or maybe lend to someone. I also have a really neat font for birthday cards and other stuff which is slightly larger and more legible. And a 'messy' font which can only be read by myself (sometimes I can't even read it but I can guess the words). I can write almost as fast as talking speed in messy font so it's perfect for taking notes.
    And also it looks blurry because I like to write in pencil cuz it saves even more space lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    My handwriting for those who would analyze correlation

    Consistency, symmetry, packed, experimental, layout.
    Introverted, logic, irrational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Banana King View Post
    This is really interesting, thanks for posting

    So apparently ILE all write in huge letters (r? = 0.89) which is a reaaally high number compared to most correlations in there (+/-0.3 is large)
    By this study and also the MBTI correlations I should most likely be LII by my writing truth is I write with tiny letters in order to save paper so I don't have to go and buy new notebooks that often lol
    illegible.PNG
    The pic is all blurry because the letters are small, the lowercase ones are probably about a millimeter tall. This is my 'neat' font for taking notes btw lol. For notes that I intend to read in the future or maybe lend to someone. I also have a really neat font for birthday cards and other stuff which is slightly larger and more legible. And a 'messy' font which can only be read by myself (sometimes I can't even read it but I can guess the words). I can write almost as fast as talking speed in messy font so it's perfect for taking notes.
    And also it looks blurry because I like to write in pencil cuz it saves even more space lol
    You should have seen my math assignments in uni. I usually consumed twice the amount of paper compared to regular peeps while still omitting "the dull stuff". My handwriting is really geared towards the philosophy: I write so I can remember and there is no need to check it later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    interesting they say EII typically has sharp or angled handwriting in the article I posted.
    I don't think sociotype correlates strongly to how one expresses oneself in handwriting art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDemonSheep96 View Post
    You should have seen my math assignments in uni. I usually consumed twice the amount of paper compared to regular peeps while still omitting "the dull stuff". My handwriting is really geared towards the philosophy: I write so I can remember and there is no need to check it later.
    My philosophy is the same. Except I like to save as much space as possible hahaha. I omit the small details but I think general concepts are important to write in detail so I end up taking several pages of minuscule text in each class hahah. My memory kinda handles the rest. But without writing down notes it's harder for me to retain details.

    My ILE buddy also used tons of paper for his math stuff. Since he was using so many notebooks he just started taking notes on his computer and a drawing tablet. Great solution imo for anybody with big letters.

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