LOL! Again, any question you want to ask me?
LOL! Again, any question you want to ask me?
How typing actually works from an Fi-ego's point of view who thinks he/she is IEI: "I like this person, so he/she must also be IEI." or "I don't like this person, so there's no way he/she could be IEI."Originally Posted by Lilith
This simple logic (or rather ethic) is then expressed by empty expressions like "I don't get an IEI vibe from her", "She doesn't have the IEI aura", "She doesn't wear the proper clothes to be an IEI", "Her nose has not the right shape of an IEIs nose." or whatever.
And the fact that people care so much or seem offended by your cleavage shows we're accompanied by a lot of Fi users. That's my opinion.
Love is like an energy, rushing in, rushing inside of me...
eheh! I love you to death, and you know it, but the comments in this topic from my pov are not enough to define if these people are one type or the other. Ti lead, just to name one, can also sound extremely judgemental.
In all honesty the only thought that crossed my mind, and we will discuss about it if you're interested, is the j/p split in socionics.
It's alright. xD I just wanted to make a joke, you know.
Love is like an energy, rushing in, rushing inside of me...
LOL! Yes, I know what my jokes and your jokes look likeIt's alright. xD I just wanted to make a joke, you know.
Thanks, I wouldn't get to defensive though, I only wanted to show you how sanguigne you sounded in your commentsBrittleness? I'm just trying to explain my comments in case they seemed offensive, cause they weren't meant that way. If you're going to put yourself on the internet, you can expect some negative feedback. She seems like a self-confident girl, so I don't think she cares that much. But I agree some comments were.mean and unnecessary.
Edited: I'm sorry I'm referring to you in third person
I like your explanation of Ni and Ni/Ne comparisons btwthere was nothing brittle nor defenseless in there, and here I'm not meaning to debate your type.
Also, no need to apologize, the reason why I joined in the first place was because debates like this one are inevitable, and it would make me too self-conscious to just hide behind a finger.
Damn, now I'm shit scared that you're going to retype me into Fi or Ti ego with my every new sentenceI just wanted to say that I experience the same thought processes as you described them in your videos of Ni and you managed to described them in a very understandable way, which I wouldn't be able to.
So IEI's are not supposed to be judgmental? I don't get this impression from other IEI's around here at all. There's always some kind of bitchy aloof vibe.
And for the record, I fully support boobs and cleavages.
eheh! No, don't worry, I don't go around typing peopleDamn, now I'm shit scared that you're going to retype me into Fi or Ti ego with my every new sentence
So IEI's are not supposed to be judgmental? I don't get this impression from other IEI's around here at all. There's always some kind of bitchy aloof vibe.
And for the record, I fully support boobs and cleavages.and that's because I would feel bad for the person if they disagreed with my typing.
And that's what I was meaning with j/p split, I don't view IEIs not being judgemental either
I am not even close to be labeled as an expert in typing.
I have troubles to figure out myself, wouldn't dare doing it with others.
Fi ego, Ti ego or whatever else, we are still humans.
Probably with different tastes and understanding what might be aesthetic or appropriate.
@darya: one thing I can tell you about that "confidence" you keep talking about is that the only reason I keep making videos is that some people around me push and ask me to. Anyhoo I guess that being in my mid 30 and having studied psychology and communication all my life through plus having studied acting as a hobby for quite some time, may have provided techniques to face the cam-monster, which in all honesty, from my pov, I do not handle that well at all.
Just a stupid question, I'm in no way an expert...couldn't Ni pick up on patterns and similarities and intuitively feel the vibe as well (as wrong as it could be). I've seen many "acknowledged" IEI's on this forum type based on vibe or how similar they consider the person to be to them. I fact, isn't only natural for everybody to do that? To compare themselves to someone who is supposed to be the same type?
And to be honest I'm highly sceptical of VI, so no "her nose is different than mine", "she's wearing black and I'm wearing white" for me. I find many famous IEI pretty annoying and vain, but I still see myself in them
And I don't doubt @Lilith type at all, she sounds like an expert and I can see she's 458 tritype, which is probably a quite direct and agressive combination, much more than mine.
I totally get what you're saying, confidence can be very illusionary sometimes. And videos and forum writings are way different than RL interactions. You look in charge and self confident in your videos and that's only positive.
Oh, and I don't get ESE vibe from you AT ALL
oh wait, is Lilith this chick?
haha, yes
i got a feeling it was you from your first post in this thread, but I didn't want to accuse you and embarrass myselflol
ahah! yeah, IEIs do get that kind of thing and all of those I know get self-conscious that wayi got a feeling it was you from your first post in this thread, but I didn't want to accuse you and embarrass myself
I think in the second video a few minutes in.
Interesting about Adolf.... I don't rely on VI at all since I don't VI IEI either according to most people who have seen my pics or video.I did not finish the video but Adolf is commonly considered as INFJ in MBTI.
I really do not get the IEI vibe from her, at least visually
But we probably shouldn't rely on VI this time..
Yeah I wasn't basing on looks either... though her femininity can be a subjective thing. I am told I act like a man or give off a masculine vibe at times. I can be assertive and aggressive too. I could not VI to save my own life so basically.... I was conflicted on a couple of things.Just wanted to say, that I'm not doubting her IEI status based on her appearance whatsoever, only her agressive, assertive energy.
"Female IEI is the embodiment of the conventional ideas of femininity. Yet, she still seem so sensitive, brittle, and defenseless to the point that it would make any man want to instantly protect her."
I mean, this is obviously exaggerated, but I think there is something to it...or not?
Anyway I just woke up and have to write this down before I forget. I dreamt about this woman last night! She actually explained the points that were causing me confusion. She told me that things I could see in her that made me feel undecided on her type as IEI are things that I do not feel as confident about in myself. Like speaking on a subject without taking people down the rabbit hole with me. I told her she reminded me of some SLE energy and she said, "that is because you view yourself and me as self-dualized." She went on to say say that neither of us need another to validate our perception of self. She told me to keep trusting myself... it will be clear soon.
Hahah I love my dreams! I need some coffee then maybe it will all be clearer. Regardless of her type she has made a psychological impact on me.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I was impressed on the explanation of imagination being real. Only the true possessor of such imagination would know that.Brittleness? I'm just trying to explain my comments in case they seemed offensive, cause they weren't meant that way. If you're going to put yourself on the internet, you can expect some negative feedback. She seems like a self-confident girl, so I don't think she cares that much. But I agree some comments were.mean and unnecessary.
Edited: I'm sorry I'm referring to you in third person
I like your explanation of Ni and Ni/Ne comparisons btw
Probably... In an ironic twist of fate, when you joined this forum someone told me you seem/act just like me, so much so that I got a bit paranoid that you were trollin' me since you immediately spoke on things I had just discussed publicly before you joined..Thanks for the dream conversation...it was enlightening.
It is not a matter of like or dislike for me. I actually thought she seemed cool as fuck from the video but my confusion of energy was based on other things. Things that had me conflicted on the whole typing thing to begin with... I dreamt my answer.
I was not offended by her cleavage. I was impressed. My associations are just that, my associations. I proudly display mine as well whenever I feel like it and when I do it, it is to be noticed. Otherwise I would wear baggy t-shirts all the time. My logic tells me if I don't want someone to see something I cover it up, whether that is a physical or psychological attribute. I won't apologize for noticing the obvious. Irl I would never be that obvious in my noticing... like saying the comment, that I made, to a stranger. I would absolutely say it to a friend though and have had the "more ale" comment directed at myself from my friends. I just laugh because I know what they mean and that is how I made the association to begin with. Irl I might not help myself from admiring...but I also have better control of my filters in person, usually.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Why are the IEIs on this forum patronizing as shit?
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I am not patronizing. I am seeing what I already felt inside. There is much more to IEI types than the descriptions can offer. Some of the descriptions make me want to cringe. Only a few people actually agree with my self-type. I don't care. I know how I function and it might not match up to the stereotypes.
@InvisibleJim
As predicted somewhere on this site. The IEIs are rising!
[she had me at "imagination"]
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
She bases her typing of Hit-ler as an IEI based on suggestive. I have seen a page on typing him in socionics which takes a different approach: http://www.socionics.us/philosophy/******.shtml
Hahahah censorship....foiled again! I am not sure why it is censored. Seems unnecessary and inconvenient to me. Especially when doing a search for specific information. It's not like people don't catch on real quick and circumvent the filters.She bases her typing of Hit-ler as an IEI based on suggestive
Edit: Ok I can see the site now. Going to read. I do hope Vlad the Impaler was also IEI or maybe SLE. I vibe with him.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
This is political correctness gone mad!
Here it is again. I guess, just copy and paste, then remove the spaces. http://www.socionics.us/philosophy/h i t l e r.shtml
There you go. Filters circumvented.
I hear he roasted children.Edit: Ok I can see the site now. Going to read. I do hope Vlad the Impaler was also IEI or maybe SLE. I vibe with him.
Awww, I love children...I hear he roasted children.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I'd guess her type to be EIE > IEI, but the latter isn't unreasonable.
Glasses chick seems α-XXXp.
I'd say good observation
We discussed about my typing again today, seemed appropriate
But, ya know, sometimes a vid may not tell the whole truth from an image pov.
Oh, dear. This thread has taken a dark turn. Though, I admit, I am partial to a jelly baby...or two.
I don't see any reason for typing you as anything other than IEI, especially if you are comfortable with that typing and you relate to the order of functions.I'd say good observation
We discussed about my typing again today, seemed appropriate
But, ya know, sometimes a vid may not tell the whole truth from an image pov.
I got it! I'm OLD! ROFLJust flew by to mention that
1. VI IS a good way to guess one's type, but it has nothing to do with the kind of clothes or nose. If one of that sensory data, then perhaps rough face shape (we noticed that in video conferences). It is rather the kind of smile, the kind of laugh, the kind of talking, the kind of rising an eyebrow. It is about expressions and gestures.
2. You may consider, that factors blurry the picture, like subtype, gender (male IEIs are calmer), age (weaker functions may have developed), nationality (nordic people act more reserved than southern ones) and of course past experience. An SLE who learned to trust no one is different from one that never experienced violence.
****** may be an IEI (and that coming from a german
Let's rise the quality of this forum with being a bit diplomatic. In real life no one would act like some of you do in here. You don't want to scare people out, do you?
Edit: Oh my god, they edited Hitle r ! Poor guy, that misunderstood artist
I'd say good observation
We discussed about my typing again today, seemed appropriate
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
okay, up for pics sharing... this would be me as I used to go around normally when I was in my early twenties... T_T good old times
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This is probably the best comment I've seen up to now! ROFL
Attention whoring bwaha!
Restyling
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I didn't watch yet but I wanted to bump this and now it's gone. I think you looked beautiful in the screenshot that was shown but I really wanted to hear what you had to say.
@Lilith
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Yeah... I'm currently going through a spiritual socionics-free enneagram oriented phase...
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