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    Made a loom video: https://www.loom.com/share/37d4872bb...ce7aecf6f3b76e

    You don't need to watch everything if you already have a hunch within a minute let me know. I am also curious to hear about your reasoning.

    If it helps my MBTI type is INTP, enneagram 5w4.

    Little update:

    I know I come across as a robot but I want to thank all of you who watched the video and commented it is greatly appreciated. I will consider all points of view and carefully analyze them to ascertain the truth.

    2nd Update:

    Videos talking about my interest, from when I was skinny fat dork with minimal care for my appearance. Probably more accurate and less biased since I don't know whether I am being typed or not. These videos are from 4 years ago:
    Discussing introversion vs extroversion (no face): https://youtu.be/_cT0dqseP_E
    Discussing IQ and ADHD (face shows): https://youtu.be/Q5NAWOs5BQY
    About the concept of abstraction: https://youtu.be/nNBpbhH7pfU

    On the channel there is also a video Identity & Habits, explaining my identity engineering protocol and why I may come across differently in the first loom video. The Identity & Habits was from 3 years ago the first time I started doing self-development, chasing success etc. Went from dork to stud. I learned it form a course. Hopefully this will help with the accuracy of of people trying to type me and more consistency.

    Writing:
    Attempting to solve Theseus' Ship paradox (on a few strips of Adderall, best time of my life): https://www.docdroid.net/0aAihe2/theseus-ship-pdf
    Some more writing: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=share_link

    Topics: Neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, clairvoyance, personal thoughts

    My take on fashion since this is a much debated point:
    My natural standing on clothes is that comfort is king. When I was younger I used to walk around with hoodies and sweatpants most of the time and fluctuate between trying to look presentable and just wearing a comfy hoody. I was the type to walk around with holes in my clothes and ripped shoes. I still do. But usually with undergarments, I love clothes but hate the process of buying them i.e. going outside in a mall, fitting the clothes, dressing again and again etc. As I started to become a bit older (I am 28 now) I started doing self development the most important things that have affected my mind is being around 12% body fat percentage, eating clean, only water, supplements like ashwagandha all of this have contributed to more testosterone and a change in attitude towards status and social games related subjects like clothes. Now I want to look as good as possible. I have also been a visual person, drawing, making sprite movies, youtube videos, crappy fighting movies that I edited with crappy sound effects in windows moviemaker and other visual activities. Fashion to me is like building your character in a video game. There are some strict principles I follow when it comes to personal aesthetics but I don't regard fashion as a singular topic it is about the big picture. How well your face is groomed and how lean you are is as important. Man maketh the clothes, not the reversed. My fashion sense is mostly based on inspiration and I can get that inspiration from anywhere ranging from songs, movies, books but also anime, manga and comic books. It is usually a specific impression I got from a piece of media that often becomes an inspiration for buying the next piece. For example, I read this webtoon called Lookism, the protagonist was wearing Balenciaga speedrunner shoes and got a lot of compliments from the characters in the comic. So I als ordered the exact same shoes. I know this may come across autistic af to some, but I don't mind I am just genuinely explaining my thoughts. Also being well of has kinda turned this into a hobby with limitless resources. It is a fact that wearing expensive clothes makes you feel better by the fact that you know you are wearing expensive clothes (others don't need to know), there is research on this. And I like to optimize everything about my life including clothes as to not cut corners. But there is also a contradicting part about my like for fashion, I actually dislike it when my outfit draws too much attention, this feeling started to emerge when I first started wearing really good clothes. Now I try to be a bit more subtle about my fashion choices as to not draw too much attention, I avoid big brands like Louis Vuitton for example or crazy designs. 90% of my clothes are black.
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    Hum right off you come off pretty serious

    LII come to mind on the first instinct
    But you said you associate with INTP in the mbti?

    Can you please tell me the traits that you think of your self from the behaviors described in INTP

    Conflict avoidance

    Yeah you have a typical Alpha view about “the superior human race”
    Very ILE LII
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Hello,

    Thank you for the reply. I am indeed 90% of the times very serious, even my mom said this about when I was a kid.


    I do like what you said about my view. It is indeed something a long the line of being the greatest. But not in a shallow results oriented way something more a long the lines of becoming immortal. A little bit more immaterial.
    I love this quote from Heraclitus: "1 man is worth 1000 if he is extraordinary".

    The thing I identify most with INTP is having a large web of principles inside of your mind that gives the INTP an accurate representation of reality. One side of that web for me is the theory of evolution. It is such a fundamental first principle that you can use and apply to understand almost all human behavior, even in day to day life. In a sense getting to the bottom of something and using that fundamental understanding in other areas that seem unrelated at first. That would be a key trait of my thinking. But I can also be results oriented and efficiency oriented when it comes to execution and make judgements about what is important or not for something to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Hello,

    Thank you for the reply. I am indeed 90% of the times very serious, even my mom said this about when I was a kid.


    I do like what you said about my view. It is indeed something a long the line of being the greatest. But not in a shallow results oriented way something more a long the lines of becoming immortal. A little bit more immaterial.
    I love this quote from Heraclitus: "1 man is worth 1000 if he is extraordinary".

    The thing I identify most with INTP is having a large web of principles inside of your mind that gives the INTP an accurate representation of reality. One side of that web for me is the theory of evolution. It is such a fundamental first principle that you can use and apply to understand almost all human behavior, even in day to day life.
    Yeah LII would be pretty much right on I think
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    most possible: ILE, IEI, ILI

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    IEI
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Incredibly mechanical output. Hard to grasp even ounce of valued Ti. Just what works TM. Te ego. Somewhere in the realm of SLI or ILI maybe even LIE.
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    ILI makes more sense imho.

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    05:18
    All of this stems from an annoyance of things not being in the correct place. I love putting things in the proper place physically and mentally.

    I don't see SLI being conflict avoidant
    11:53
    My most recent conflicts, I tend to be conflict avoidant because I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what will be, of what I will be capable when I'm truly mad.

    I see LII doing this!

    13:48
    People have said I can be prickly sometimes too direct to honest. I also seem to be bad at playing the social game.

    Someone needs to help you with playing the social game

    You need someone to help you with social gatherings extroversion inviting you out that's what you seek from your ILE friend

    15:45
    He invites me to social gatherings a lot. So that's the only area in my life that would require some outside help is going out more.
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 01-22-2023 at 04:59 PM.
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Ordering your environment is usually a trait of normalizing subtypes

    https://wikisocion.net/en/index.php/..._Vera_Borisova

    Dunno how valued Ti is so hard to grasp, since he pretty much mentioned in the beginning that he cuts straight to the point, which is Ti, separating the important things from the unnecessary stuff, reducing things to the essentials. His mind is too occupied with self-improvement to be Si valuing. I doubt he's an INTP
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    YOUR all about those systems

    16:52
    Yeah, man, I love to build, especially systems like the way I do design or design agencies, very systemized, extremely efficient.

    7:04
    I've built it with minimum resources. So the costs are very low, but it's basically like an interconnections of different tools and systems and websites that work together.

    17:15
    And it's almost semi-automated, which is incredibly hard to do for a service-based business. But yeah, basically people go on our website, they can order a service, they can, they can schedule themselves in each day.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    LII

    i havent watched the video just saw ur face
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    Not emotive in the slightest and mechanical as they put it, unlikely ethical type. "I can be too direct, too honest" not inclined to soften the punch also indicates T type. Possibly Te valuing.
    Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.

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    Te

    ILI makes sense. I also agree with sanguine miasma
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Made a loom video: https://www.loom.com/share/37d4872bb...ce7aecf6f3b76e

    You don't need to watch everything if you already have a hunch within a minute let me know. I am also curious to hear about your reasoning.

    If it helps my MBTI type is INTP, enneagram 5w4.
    Hello MadaraZero. First of all, thank you for uploading that video. It helped me to apply practically the knowledge I've collected from the theory.

    I'm going to answer this from the Modela G perspective: You're an LSI (100%) - Dominant subtype (80%) [Inspector - Demander]. If you would like further information, send me a private message.

    MY NEW CONCLUSION: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...araZero-thread
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    Yea I see what you mean. It depends on the context though. But thanks for the input anyway.

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    You are right, I do feel like my face looks the most like the LII type. I assessed this back a few years ago before knowing socionics conceptually. I still don't understand it that well. It isn't strange to think that mind and body are connected and that we have certain phenotypes of bodies and minds correlated to specific gene expressions. Thank you for bringing this up to me again.

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    You guys aren't making it any easier for me haha, the data is all over the places and extremely nuanced. I do love being nostalgic and routine. Sometimes I Just like to indulge into a memory from the past when I get reminded of it by association. But it happens occasionally not much. Based on MBTI that would be Si indicator or some weaker form of it. Thanks for the input anyway

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    Can't believe you put up with my ramblings until the end. I am truly grateful for the insights this will be valuable data points to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    You guys aren't making it any easier for me haha, the data is all over the places and extremely nuanced. I do love being nostalgic and routine. Sometimes I Just like to indulge into a memory from the past when I get reminded of it by association. But it happens occasionally not much. Based on MBTI that would be Si indicator or some weaker form of it. Thanks for the input anyway
    Ni, with some ethics too, in Socionics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaktor View Post
    Hello MadaraZero. First of all, thank you for uploading that video. It helped me to apply practically the knowledge I've collected from the theory.

    I'm going to answer this from the Modela G perspective: You're an LSI (100%) - Dominant subtype (80%) [Inspector - Demander]. If you would like further information, send me a private message.
    Hello, thank you for taking the time to do this for me. But I don't think I am LSI, and that is my own mistake for not articulating myself properly in the video, I think I still must have a bit of brainfogg due to an intense sparring session I had at my boxing gym. I have some weird ideas about reality that I even I don't feel comfortable sharing with strangers. I mainly see with my senses what is not there, imaginary things and patterns. I am prone to hallucinations and often mistake physical objects with people or 'misssee' things. Or even hear things that are not there or often I end up confused about the direction of where a sound comes from. My mind is prone to seeking meaning in numbers, words and patterns I see in my environment. For example, I keep seeing 11:11 and other number patterns. I know it is probably related to some form of higher order thinking or creativity or an overload of dopamine in my brain, which is good since I also like the way I feel in my brain and body, but it is tempting to attribute meaning, my mind is inclined to do so. Hopefully that made sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nifl View Post
    Ni, with some ethics too, in Socionics
    It is fascinating how that is regarded as Ni in socionics.

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    LIE or ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Hello, thank you for taking the time to do this for me. But I don't think I am LSI, and that is my own mistake for not articulating myself properly in the video, I think I still must have a bit of brainfogg due to an intense sparring session I had at my boxing gym. I have some weird ideas about reality that I even I don't feel comfortable sharing with strangers. I mainly see with my senses what is not there, imaginary things and patterns. I am prone to hallucinations and often mistake physical objects with people or 'misssee' things. Or even hear things that are not there or often I end up confused about the direction of where a sound comes from. My mind is prone to seeking meaning in numbers, words and patterns I see in my environment. For example, I keep seeing 11:11 and other number patterns. I know it is probably related to some form of higher order thinking or creativity or an overload of dopamine in my brain, which is good since I also like the way I feel in my brain and body, but it is tempting to attribute meaning, my mind is inclined to do so. Hopefully that made sense.
    Maybe from MBTi or Model A you're not an LSI, but I can guarantee you 100% from Model G you're an LSI - Dominant subtype with enhanced P (Te), based on what how you described yourself and your personal relationships. Of course if I knew you better the subtype conclusion might change, since I observed that some LSI tend to exagerate traits about them (I'm not saying this applies to you). Probably you won't change your mind. Your concept of what Intuition is, is wrong. LII intuition is practical, LSI intuition is aimed for transcendental or mystycal stuff, although LSI tend to deny mystycal stuff per se: My LSI friend is very interested in Buddha, No duality, all types of phylosophy, etc. Of course fools will say he is not an LSI but an IEI. The irony is that such fools don't see the big mistype they made on themselves, not being able to differentiate Ti+ command from Ti- command.

    Remember that being LII, LSI, etc etc doesn't matter. You are from the Beta Quadra, a quadra which basically wrote history in a nutshell. The most powerful Quadra, the Quadra of Empires. You're very competent. If you were an LII from the Model G perspective, you would 80/100 times never become what you are nowadays. Your aims and goals would be others. Hope this helped.

    Feel free to answer, if you still not agree with my typing I will understand it, but I won't reply back since it's pointless. Nobody will change his mind. If you want to read that descriptions with an open mind without any mental structure created of being a certain image of a type, I will happily provide it to you during the next week, when I have some free time. Just send me a message.

    MY NEW CONCLUSION: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...araZero-thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaktor View Post
    Maybe from MBTi or Model A you're not an LSI, but I can guarantee you 100% from Model G you're an LSI - Dominant subtype with enhanced P (Te), based on what how you described yourself and your personal relationships. Of course if I knew you better the subtype conclusion might change, since I observed that some LSI tend to exagerate traits about them (I'm not saying this applies to you). Probably you won't change your mind. Your concept of what Intuition is, is wrong. LII intuition is practical, LSI intuition is aimed for transcendental or mystycal stuff, although LSI tend to deny mystycal stuff per se: My LSI friend is very interested in Buddha, No duality, all types of phylosophy, etc. Of course fools will say he is not an LSI but an IEI. The irony is that such fools don't see the big mistype they made on themselves, not being able to differentiate Ti+ command from Ti- command.

    Remember that being LII, LSI, etc etc doesn't matter. You are from the Beta Quadra, a quadra which basically wrote history in a nutshell. The most powerful Quadra, the Quadra of Empires. You're very competent. If you were an LII from the Model G perspective, you would 80/100 times never become what you are nowadays. Your aims and goals would be others. Hope this helped.

    Feel free to answer, if you still not agree with my typing I will understand it, but I won't reply back since it's pointless. Nobody will change his mind. If you want to read that descriptions with an open mind without any mental structure created of being a certain image of a type, I will happily provide it to you during the next week, when I have some free time. Just send me a message.
    Hey man, first of all thank you for taking the time to answer I can see you take this very seriously and that is appreciated. I would like to disagree but quite frankly your mental model of the theory is too nuanced for me to even know how to disagree if that makes sense. I would have to read on it extensively and don't have the time to do so, unfortunately. But it seems like you use a different model that you refer to as Model G. If that is the case I will trust your expertise.

    Since you have stroked my ego I am now curious to know more about Beta Quadra.

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    He looks much less busy with x1 playback speed, lol. It defaults to 1.2. So Te levels down. +20 % is a lot to keep up. Especially if you try to do VI and evaluate voice.
    Anyway,
    1. it adds great deal to logical tempo
    2. It adds great deal to dynamicity of movements

    No LII anyway, neither ILE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    It is fascinating how that is regarded as Ni in socionics.
    MBTI and socionics have somewhat different definitions of the functions, with Si being this kind of memory based function in MBTI. In socionics, Ni is the function that is interested in future trends and developments. To predict them the function searches for recurring patterns in the past and projects into the future. Model G is a Model that is developed by Victor Gulenko, a socionics researcher from ukraine that is one of the most well-known researchers of the theory. socionics itself is based on Model A, which was developed by a woman called Aushra Augusta. Model G is a variation of that model but I would ignore that as a beginner for now.
    my ideas about socionics:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Hello, thank you for taking the time to do this for me. But I don't think I am LSI, and that is my own mistake for not articulating myself properly in the video, I think I still must have a bit of brainfogg due to an intense sparring session I had at my boxing gym. I have some weird ideas about reality that I even I don't feel comfortable sharing with strangers. I mainly see with my senses what is not there, imaginary things and patterns. I am prone to hallucinations and often mistake physical objects with people or 'misssee' things. Or even hear things that are not there or often I end up confused about the direction of where a sound comes from. My mind is prone to seeking meaning in numbers, words and patterns I see in my environment. For example, I keep seeing 11:11 and other number patterns. I know it is probably related to some form of higher order thinking or creativity or an overload of dopamine in my brain, which is good since I also like the way I feel in my brain and body, but it is tempting to attribute meaning, my mind is inclined to do so. Hopefully that made sense.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Here are those mbti INTJ and INTP descriptions

    INTJ:

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    MBTI and socionics have somewhat different definitions of the functions, with Si being this kind of memory based function in MBTI. In socionics, Ni is the function that is interested in future trends and developments. To predict them the function searches for recurring patterns in the past and projects into the future. Model G is a Model that is developed by Victor Gulenko, a socionics researcher from ukraine that is one of the most well-known researchers of the theory. socionics itself is based on Model A, which was developed by a woman called Aushra Augusta. Model G is a variation of that model but I would ignore that as a beginner for now.
    I'll be frank that doesn't sit well with me, seems muddy. But I guess one has to focus on one model and use that as a base of reasoning. The most accurate and well researched one ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I don’t see a single drop of Se but I do see that Se Polr
    Yeah, my intuition still thinks there is something off about his evaluation. But who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    I'll be frank that doesn't sit well with me, seems muddy. But I guess one has to focus on one model and use that as a base of reasoning. The most accurate and well researched one ofc.
    Here's the socionics description of Ni

    https://wikisocion.net/en/index.php/...rted_intuition
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    In short. LII is not really seeking real life returns to their thoughts. Check people such as Paul Dirac who were comfortable being in their land of hypotheticals. That is Se PoLR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    Here's the socionics description of Ni

    https://wikisocion.net/en/index.php/...rted_intuition
    Why do you feel what he said is more Ni rather than Ti

    Ti looking for a model to build upon?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Why do you feel what he said is more Ni rather than Ti

    Ti looking for a model to build upon?
    Honestly I kinda give up, I expected to read that people were of a similar mind. But my typing is all over the place. Everyone thinks something different. But nonetheless thank you guys for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Honestly I kinda give up, I expected to read that people were of a similar mind. But my typing is all over the place. Everyone thinks something different. But nonetheless thank you guys for your time.
    Looks like unvalued Ne
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    ILI imo. Maybe Dominant subtype. Body language is very dynamic, I see Te in how fast and accelerated and to the point you are, which also makes sense given your entrepreneurial qualities. Definitely look like a logical type, your mouth and eyes don't really match when you speak, ethical types have a more harmonious quality to their faces. I think E-commerce and the like is something that attracts NT types in general a lot more often, very technological. Very inquisitive with lots of intuitive interests, likes learning and applying new things. The way you're dressed also seems like the archetypal ILI. Kind of messy, wearing all black, hoodie and beanie, "doomer" like aesthetic. Some things you said too, like your systematic researched approach to fashion and how you present yourself, seems like trying to apply logic to Fe, which is something I would expect ILIs to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Honestly I kinda give up, I expected to read that people were of a similar mind. But my typing is all over the place. Everyone thinks something different. But nonetheless thank you guys for your time.
    It's unavoidable with typology, as it categorizes 8 billion people into 16 types. It's rare that a couple of people here agree on something. You might want to look at the big five instead, but they won't give you much to work with on an individual basis
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadaraZero View Post
    Honestly I kinda give up, I expected to read that people were of a similar mind. But my typing is all over the place. Everyone thinks something different. But nonetheless thank you guys for your time.
    It's probably best. It would do you much better to read the theory yourself and reflect on which type you fit into best. Lets say the threshold for a correct typing is <75% match to a specific type. You could satisfactorily fit into 2-3 types within those thresholds easily. To determine "your type" you have to use radical honesty with yourself as well as just use your gut imo. In other words just pick one.

    Also, it doesn't help that everyone on here interprets socionics differently and oftentimes are using different models and methods to justify their conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulum View Post
    ILI imo. Maybe Dominant subtype. Body language is very dynamic, I see Te in how fast and accelerated and to the point you are, which also makes sense given your entrepreneurial qualities. Definitely look like a logical type, your mouth and eyes don't really match when you speak, ethical types have a more harmonious quality to their faces. I think E-commerce and the like is something that attracts NT types in general a lot more often, very technological. Very inquisitive with lots of intuitive interests, likes learning and applying new things. The way you're dressed also seems like the archetypal ILI. Kind of messy, wearing all black, hoodie and beanie, "doomer" like aesthetic. Some things you said too, like your systematic researched approach to fashion and how you present yourself, seems like trying to apply logic to Fe, which is something I would expect ILIs to do.
    In the first place, this was also a hypothesis for me; ILI - Dominant subtype. However if you split up the dychotomies, temperament, etc you end up in LSI, also note that you might have the video sped up, as it is sped up by default. Out of the dychotomies / temperament; why I don't think he's an ILI in a nutshell? Because of E (Fe) in the context of being an ILI. For all the ILIs I know, both IRL or internet, it's not usual for them to refer to themselves as "I'm already clever enough" or "Creating a superior human being" not even in a humoristic context (I get that he's joking). Maybe if the ILI is surrounded by friends he does. But he's making a video for random people in a forum!! They don't want to be the center of atention; it is more a "shadow-genius" position in the background for them (don't take the word genius seriously, it's an example / exageration).

    Also Scientific-Researcher mindset is nowhere to be found in any part of the video. You may argue that the fact that he wants to "learn the truth about himself" is refered to scientific-researcher mindset, but that's purely subjectivity and comfort seeking. It fits very well in the LSI way of thinking Ti-Si, gathering data, building logical models in order to understand everything in their lifes and get a sense of comfort. To understand from what is money to what are the sentiments from a logical POV.

    What do you think @Pendulum ? It's nice to meet another Model G user in the forum. There aren't many. This kind of surprises me and somehow dissapoints me, but it's what it's.

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