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    Default Signs of Te-seeking

    Asking questions that you kind of already know the answer to, but you’re not confident enough to just roll with without reassurance. Could also just be an E6-head fix trait

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    You mean 1D valued Te dual seeking?

    Wanting the respect of somebody with credentials. Going to some corporate organization dressed up like Maritsa and saying that you are a humanitarian, and that you are here to make the world a better place but you need more pragmatic assistance in doing so. Acting serious, respectful and disciplined. If people don't align with your personal morals, you can also be unkind and harsh and unforgiving.

    You value external objective data- but you are more on the downlow about admitting that or talking about that. Because of the one-dimensionality and lack of confidence of it, yeah. Not all values are openly expressed, obviously. IEEs are more 'in your face' about using data with their 2D Te - with EII/ESI it's more like they highly value it but won't necessarily talk about it in public a lot, and may even come across like a IEI or SEI in ways because of that.

    Getting a job in the government , as the government and bureaucracy is often strongly related to Te. Or the medical field. A lot of ESIs kinda feel comfortable blending in and getting jobs like that- even though they have 1D Te they are still eager to learn and please and suck up to some 4D Te try-hard ogre to get resources in the world. I see a lot of ESI nurses and dental hygiene assistants. For EII , I see more official Social Workers & ppl who work in homeless shelters or places with loser Betas that they can chastise and try to put on the 'correct path.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazaam
    You mean 1D valued Te dual seeking?

    Wanting the respect of somebody with credentials. Going to some corporate organization dressed up like Maritsa and saying that you are a humanitarian, and that you are here to make the world a better place but you need more pragmatic assistance in doing so. Acting serious, respectful and disciplined. If people don't align with your personal morals, you can also be unkind and harsh and unforgiving.

    You value external objective data- but you are more on the downlow about admitting that or talking about that. Because of the one-dimensionality and lack of confidence of it, yeah. Not all values are openly expressed, obviously. IEEs are more 'in your face' about using data with their 2D Te - with EII/ESI it's more like they highly value it but won't necessarily talk about it in public a lot, and may even come across like a IEI or SEI in ways because of that.

    Getting a job in the government , as the government and bureaucracy is often strongly related to Te. Or the medical field. A lot of ESIs kinda feel comfortable blending in and getting jobs like that- even though they have 1D Te they are still eager to learn and please and suck up to some 4D Te try-hard ogre to get resources in the world. I see a lot of ESI nurses and dental hygiene assistants. For EII , I see more official Social Workers & ppl who work in homeless shelters or places with loser Betas that they can chastise and try to put on the 'correct path.'
    I think the point you said about 1D values not being openly expressed is a big one. Mobilising/Launcher (2D valued) are more conscious than 1D/Seeking values ones. 1D supposedly remains an unconscious need that others might be able to perceive in you, yet you don’t yourself (at least not unless you know and start thinking about it).

    So relating back to @Averroes, I think Te-seekers do have a bunch of questions that they want a reliable knowledge-bank of a person to answer, though I don’t know if it’s necessarily something they already know the answer to and need confirmation.

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    I would say an almost exaggerated focus on being honest is possibly diagnostic of Suggestive Te. Anecdotally it seems that ExIs are incredibly averse to people they have judged to be dishonest. They also have a tendency to really care quite deeply about congruency between values and actions with contradictions in this area being seen as a major threat to stability. In MBTILand Fi is often called "Authenticity" and I suspect it's largely because of the interplay between 4D Fi and 1D Te rather than necessarily Fi by itself. It's just what happens when a desire for reliable information (Te) intersects with a focus on interpersonal relations (Fi)
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    Here is what the scriptures say about Te Seeking :

    ESI:

    "He really relaxes and calms down after hard, but fruitful work. He likes people who involve him in business activities. He is practical in everyday life. He is able to use everything in his environment. Is very fond of functional and beautifully designed things. Appreciates what is useful and requires minimal effort for its maintenance. Knows how to make himself comfortable to work in. Performs labor-intensive jobs quickly so that he does not return to them for a long time. Heavily endures a change of work, habitual way of life. The discomfort of changing over to new conditions discourages him very much."

    EII :

    "He can't sit idly by while others work. He doesn't need to be agitated to the cause. The best way to get him involved is by personal example. He gets real pleasure from comfortable, well-organized work. He likes it when they help him get rid of a useless waste of effort, rationally arrange the workplace. There is no need to give him detailed instructions, long to introduce him to the case. He will find the necessary information himself. The main thing is that what is required for work is at hand. He/she tends to overwork, overstaying at work. He would be grateful to those people who would take care of his rest and health."

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    Not sure, though I don't think diagnosing type by dual-seeking function is very reliable.


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    i had a discussion with @FreelancePoliceman he said accurately that EIIs seem to need an external structure to get started. maybe ESIs too. they need to know how exactly to do something, what actions in what order and how much time
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    i had a discussion with @FreelancePoliceman he said accurately that EIIs seem to need an external structure to get started. maybe ESIs too. they need to know how exactly to do something, what actions in what order and how much time
    I would say that I don't want abstract instructions (which I'll anyway ignore or bypass ), but a stable flow of various interesting tasks. I want the work to be so exciting that you would not notice how quickly the working day flew by. And it is very annoying when this flow is interrupted because something is not prepared or you have to postpone the task for later because someone else didn't finish his part.

    That is, it is such an unrealizable dream that you are an expert, to whom they come to solve various interesting problems, but at the same time they know how you will solve it, so they prepared everything you may need in advance. This could happen only in well-organized companies, where there is a separate specialist for each kind of work, and these specialists do not play office soccer with their tasks.

    It probably works the same for ESI, except that they should like less abstract and more predictable work related to managing things or people working in the physical world.

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    1d Te or inferior
    It’s basically like being put in some really difficult class,

    but not doing anything for like months and barely hanging on by a thread. Then going somewhere else thinking it’d help but often you don’t consider external factors and just “decide,” and kinda are just lead into something that you don’t consider logistics of. Or like going somewhere but barely knowing what effort you need to put in or what to do so you don’t do anything instead, or your effort has a lot of delays and mishaps sometimes.
    I would argue in some ways it could be needing some sort of external advice or “something” that I’m unaware of bc it’s 1d with out it can create stagnation or feeling lost for long periods of time with out any specific way out or solution.


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