everywhere
they are like the rattata of the socionics world
everywhere
they are like the rattata of the socionics world
I'm everso happy to brighten your mood, @Maritsa.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
It's just funny how you mentioned getting aggressive and now you think it actually hurts your image and so you retract it. It doesn't matter really because you should try it just to seeOriginally Posted by malna
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
malna
The easiest way for you to check your type is bloggers examples in the signature. There is significant possibility your type is not INFJ as you don't understand things evident for LSE/EII, besides strange negation of core theory.
Your telepathy fails you but please don't practice on me.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
May but my insight and intuition don't
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
malna
Not taking into account that your opinion about own type means not much, as people type incorrectly in many cases. With incorrect understanding of yourself, the understanding of the typology will stay perverted for you. As you have show here clearly.
Taking taking!
You can't know what actions I've taken so far to type myself and how many people have helped but I do, and they suffice.
@Maritsa, can we please agree to keep off each other's paths? I won't respond to your posts, you won't respond to mine. It would make my anger management problems endurable.
Apart from that last sentence, my request is entirely genuine and depends on your good will alone.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
So, I was thinking one can find LSE on a Socionics forum but I don't know why. It's not like Socionics is repaired a sink
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
@Maritsa ...is that a 'maybe'?
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
I'll ignore you
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Thank you.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
Yes LSE adapt well to the culture and surrounding that they are in making many seem so different from the other. One wears a suit and tie is cleanly shaven the other wears low jeans a T shirt or baggy sweater and throws gangster signs lol
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
what???????????????????
THIS IS HOW TO HAVE A TOXIC RELATIONSHIP DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE
if this is a "LSE" or anyone who gives a damn about you or having a good relationship, they'll want to know your honest feelings, even if it is unpleasant.
Maybe you don't know this about "LSE" or Te dominant people (or people who like healthy relationships), but I personally hate pandering to emotions, or "only telling me what I think I want to hear" - that is the absolute surest way for me to not trust you or be around you. It also goes against a hallmark of being Fi dominant: valuing Fi > Fe, putting your own personal sentiments above 'mood', etc.
If someone bases their responses entirely contingent upon what they think i want to hear, not only do I not trust them, I generally think they need to work on themselves to become comfortable with who they really are. It's very hard to find peace or good relationships this way, and I can't imagine this is being suggested as a way to find a significant relationship of any kind - if you follow this advice to its fullest you will be enabling some terrible relationship practices - and it's not something I would ever suggest EIIs, delta NFs, or anyone who is already inclined to overcompensate by self muting.
*Still Cringing*
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
It was just kidding
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
NO NO NO NO NON ON NO NO NOAlways smile at them and never ever say anything that shows your honesty especially if the honesty is showing them their bad side or their side which they can help to learn from because it makes them feel uncomfortable to be challenged, it challenges their authority and self image.
BURN IT WITH FIRE ---->>>> https://66.media.tumblr.com/97920d77...5G61qz4rgp.gif
if anyone's image or authority is based off of that it deserves to be wrecked and destroyed, and they aren't fit for leadership no less being a healthy partner in a relationship.
Completely unacceptable
*cleansing fire ensues*
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Are you though?
I'd like to believe it was all a joke, but some of the stuff you've said before about "how to find and charm LSEs" doesn't leave me a lot of faith. At any rate my protest is there should anyone not 'get the joke'
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
You really need change your self type
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Se demonstrative is a sure way to coax a smile out of me every time.
So maybe look for LSE at MC battles. Or betting on snail races.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
Thank you. In my experience LSEs tend to push and pull so it's kind of confusing. It's the same with all the LSEs I know. They seem to get close and then take their distances. It makes it difficult to know how you can relate to them.
So, what's your honest thought about my question ? It's a terrible thing to make jokes at others expenses.
The gardener is but a dream of the garden.
All Delta ST do that but LSE are more linear. I just say "if he's still calling me than he's interested in me"
My honest opinion is try to take care of yourself physically (comb your hair, shower, brush your teeth, wear ironed clothes and look presentable), smile at them, be helpful to them, have sex with them, flirt with them because they like to feel wanted, and be someone who needs them to do things for you.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
LSE prefer middle distance. It's not hard to come close to LSE, but there is limit - to go further is not easy. If you had experience with Ti valued types (which have more respect to hierarchy and sharper division "we and them") or have Fe valued type yourself, you may overestimate how close to "friendship zone" of LSE you are. Hence, sometimes you may get worse relation than you expected. You'll be hold on some distance, not close and not far.
So how?
How do you get further with an LSE?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Alright, I'll answer my own question as to how you can get further with an LSE. Pay careful attention. The process can be fast if the LSE has an agenda (if they want to have a child right away they will get you knock up before you can blink) or slow and steady. It's the slow that wears on people's patience and brings confusion and frustration. Hope you find yourself in the fast one l. Of you are in the slow one lead an LSE slowly with your dreams of the future so that he can imagine it and plan for the events that will take the both of you there. Say "I want to buy a small house here and plant a garden, we can set up an outside lounge area for you to hang out and read" you have to be creative with this and sneaky.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
basically
the 'preferring the middle distance' is more about them deciding what to do with you
when they know what they want from you they can move towards it - i think the less healthy the lse the more easy it is to move only in negative directions while being ambivalent or vague otherwis
the more mature emotionally they are - like anyone else - the more they are able to close the gap or navigate towards where they want to be or should be
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Remember no rush no fuss
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 07-20-2016 at 05:08 AM.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Can you tell me what is interesting in those mind bogglingly frustrating games(or shooters in general)?I have tried to play them about 10 minutes. (Nothing compared to comical puzzle adventures.)
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Sorry for replaying to you guys with such a big delay.
You know this is an awful advice, right?
I would NEVER want to be a bitch who pushes in between a couple and makes their relationship fall apart. If a person is married or just dating someone, I respect that and won't butt in to take what never was mine. If I were in a relationship, I definitely wouldn't want anybody else to interfere and try to 'steal' my partner away from me. This man not only betrayed his wife, but also his children' trust. This is not a good example to follow.
Glad to see I'm not the only one.
Then I must be awful at this game since I've never caught any.
EII-Fi
2w3 sx/so
tritype: 2-6-9
an LSE may watch you for a long time and you wouldn't know it. just be yourself and date. if you are EII you will naturally attract an LSE by the EII things that you do that speak to him where he will watch you over time
Also I've met a fair share of asshole LSE (messed up by their insatiable horniness and search of sex) loose canon with small brains and no morals. Don't go for this LSE he won't bring you the joy you want.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Seriously, at church.
if anyone wants to talk - feel free to pm me!@!
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
i agree with martisa
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
It's not that stupid since I'm Catholic, lol.
Nice avatar, by the way.
EII-Fi
2w3 sx/so
tritype: 2-6-9
You realize you've just called @Adam Strange's sister a bitch. :>
I could care less about your personal views but don't go mindlessly offending people.
Also, yes, @Chae's avatar is beautiful. It always gives me a pause when I skim the posts on forum.
Just don't expect much response. ;d
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
Hi, Malna. Thanks for your concern, but I wasn't offended. (I don't have many illusions about my sisters that can be easily shattered by an idle observation.) I also doubt that my sister would be offended, either. She knows she has difficulties with people, and she really can be a bitch.
Incidentally, my LII sister and her LSE husband are still together. She may be living in an emotional wasteland, but he makes over $100k/yr and from an economic standpoint, she is living very comfortably.
I like Socionics because it has helped me to avoid falling into a similar mess.
Ahhhh I'm glad you enjoy it
Hi, Adam.
We all can be pretty shitty human beings at times.
I can see how you wouldn't take offense. And yet. Doesn't make it right to call people names, just like you don't go spitting on people walking down the street.
On a side note, Se PoLRs can and often do put up with a lot of shit. In my experience, LII even more so than EII. Doesn't mean they should have to.
@tuathe, you should chat up Ashagaru on our forum. He is without a doubt Te subtype LSE and incredibly sweet, if rough around the edges. I practice my dual talk on him. ;p Highly recommended.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
Teaching also seems to be a popular LSE profession - at least here in Germany, can't speak for other nations - so that would be an approach. Join a parent-teacher conference of a relative if you don't have kids, if you have get involved in the parents' council or something.
Pick a industrial mid sized company, about 8-15 employees, and there is bound to be a LSE manager.
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