Originally Posted by
Steve
Hey all,
It's been a while.
Some of you might remember me from way back and I'd appreciate any insight you have on this. Back in the day, I had identified as Enneagram 6w5, so/sp and ENTp Ti subtype, and while there were some arguments for other Enneatypes by some people, such as 3 or 9, the evidence seemed to point for 6 for me. Lately I have been more freely expressing myself and acting out of what I believe to be my truer self, and a lot of the things I have been doing seem to have a taste of 3 in them. I'll give you a general overview of my personality style and motivations, and I would appreciate if you could help classify them.
One of my foremost fixations is making the most of my time. I want to get full bang for my buck, both in the time I put into something, and in any financial investment I forego. What bothers me the most is thinking that I might have wasted my time or money, or not made the most of an opportunity. In relationships, I tend to only want to invest myself and give into them if I see a future. [This is E7 related unless it has to do with your image]
I experience tremendous pleasure out of "impressing" people, and showing off, whether through entertaining them musically, making them laugh, or offering insight and perspective that they (or I) consider to be enlightening and intelligent. I also derive a lot of pleasure from impressing people physically, whether with my physique or with how I carry myself as I dress a certain way (I recently started shopping at Express clothes for fitted slim stuff), and I love receiving compliments on my appearance. I do value comfortable material and sometimes it is a conflict between wearing trendy sleek fitted stuff or looser less stylish but more comfortable stuff. I enjoy taking good pictures when I am looking good and I very much strive to embody a type of personal ideal, which in my case is a kind of triangular-like "sleek masculine sharpness but artistic". [You sound like me here. I attribute this to Ti and forming a subjective identity, and then proving its true to everyone via my actions and accomplishments] I want to clarify something however. I want to maintain an awesome physique, but I do not go to the gym and do what I consider to be boring repetitions on the machines, and I also want to eat what I want. I want the activity to be fun, like play Basketball, or trying gymnastics tumbling, etc. [I am a gymnast myself] I would much rather figure out efficient ways to channel my body energy through some Eastern practice (if it exists) or carry myself a certain way where muscular tone naturally emerges, and it seems to be working thus far. So I want to embody a physical ideal of an Adonis Greek god physique [something we have in common as well, except I describe myself more as a lazer neon pheonix robot ninja], but with sophisticate intelligence, not the "dumb jock" thing, however I am not someone who puts in the "hard work" to labor in the gym to do it. I am someone who likes to figure out how to just will those things into existence, without this drawn out time maturation which I have no patience for. [I too, hate gym routine. It sucks, and I am actually made sick to my stomach when I look at body building magazines full of dudes flexing... omg so gay] I am perfectly willing to have fun swimming in the ocean getting crashed by waves, which is a tremendous physical workout. You know, keep it fun and interesting. Obviously I am realistic, but deep down those are my desires/motivations. I very much enjoy finding shortcuts to get the same results as people doing it the "hard way". (Same quality, I won't compromise quality for efficiency) [again I am similar to you here. However if I KNOW a result will happen, I am not afraid to move mountains to see it through]
The notion of opportunity cost and the fundamental basis of economics (the premise of scarcity) pisses me off. I strive for the experience of abundance in every facet of life. But I can be parsimonious, and extremely conscious of how I spend my money, making sure I am getting good value for it. [this sounds like a possible yielding temperament combined with E7]
Some of those things seem to point more in the 3 direction but some might have other types in them. Here are some things that to me point in the 6 direction:
I am extremely intellectual. I speak very precisely, and say exactly what I mean, usually using exact grammar and punctuation. I want to be comprehended and understood perfectly, with zero room for misinterpretation. To me one of the things I very much try to avoid is a relationship going sour because of a mis-communication or misinterpretation. I am rational, and can step back and analyze a situation, and strategize ways to get to a desired result. I have analyzed multiple possible outcomes and would sometimes fixate on them and in the past seemed to want assurance that everything would somehow turn out ok. Now I have the attitude that if life tries to fuck with me, I will fuck with it, and I feel more self empowered. I like fitting things into a coherent system that explains how life works and I enjoy classifying myself and basically being able to more clearly see and understand my own individuality embodied in the context of the physical world. [we are the same here except I feel like I tend to speak in a venn diagram pattern, where I say a word and its 'close enough' and narrows down what i'm trying to say until the listener is left with only the overlapping venn diagram centroid]
Here are some general things that I'm not sure how to classify:
I am extremely idealistic. I hold a perfect image of what I want myself to be (talents, abilities, looks etc) and strive to embody them, and I experience tremendous Joy when I succeed and can capture it: for example on a recording of music, or a picture of my appearance. I also have strong ideals for what I want people I associate with to be like, both physically and psychologically. [I also have an image of what I want to be, however I don't give a shit who my friends are in the process of getting there.]
I generally am not overly offensively confrontational. I briefly had a sales position involving cold calling and I did not like that. However defensively, I am very confrontational. When I believe I am in the right, I will not cease until I have gotten my way or brought "justice" to the situation. [I think most thinkers will identify with this]
When I am into something that seems very fulfilling, or I feel I have a knack for, I can obsess over it because I want it to come out perfectly; to be a perfect embodiment in the physical universe of the spiritual ideal I hold. A major motivation/fixation for me is wanting to actualize my full potential in life, and for the people that matter to me to see me at my best.
[you sound very aware of your choices and emotional reasons for doing what you do. Do you agree?]
I generally am good to people and help someone when I see them in distress, however I do not like dwelling on negativity or problems, and I immediately offer a solution and turn to look to focus on something positive. This is why I don't watch the news. [The news is miserable. I am the same as you here]
Thank you for any insight you can offer on this, whether about Enneatype, Instinct, or both.