Gamma Examples

[Sol]

Tarja Turunen - ISFJ

[Olimpia]

More information about her: here and here

 

[Olimpia]

Tarja Turunen - ISFJ

Yes. And clearly Type 4.
She engages in her Ni HA throughout the video; mentioning the "shadow self" several times, but never actually delving deeply into the subject.

[Sol]

Jellybean Green ASMR (JellybeanGreenASMR) - ENTJ


Yvette ASMR - ESFP

[Sol]

Gerhard Schroder - ISFJ

[Sol]

Megan Morrone - INTP

[Sol]

Irene Dandelion - INTP

[PrettySavage]

I've read the thread from the beginning on my Quadras research

ENTj

Jesus freaking Christ, the leg tissue thing, talk about PoLR

Yeeees, ESI going off!! Tell 'em

You see this is a perfect example of why ExIs piss me off: see her rant about the high-touch event. She's bitching about something that went exactly like it should and acting as if she was robbed or conned. That's misinformation on her part, not the organizer' fault. High-touches events are exactly like she described in Korea too, even for official members of fan clubs. And they invest way more than U$800 a year, but they know what they're getting 'cuz they inform themselves.

Apparently she doesn't know the difference of a fansigning event and a high-touch one, and hasn't thought of researching about KCON experiences previous to attending hers. She was robbed for the goodies bag though, no doubt about that. But again, why didn't she ask what came in it before purchasing the tickets?

About the backstage tour email thing: had she been pro active it wouldn't have happened. If she didn't get her email at the very latest one hour prior than she should have taken action. Sure it isn't "right" or "ideal", but one must do what is needed to get their money's worth instead of just complaining.

Flower Boy Cafe: she likes Kpop, she doesn't like Korean culture. I've already noticed it because she frequently finds the most typical Korean things cringey. That's fine and she's entitled to have her opinion, but mentioning it in the same video where she complains about technical mistakes from the organizer's part makes it sound like the actual cafe was shitty. It wasn't, she just didn't like it.

The Platinum Area setup: same thing as goodies bag, shady as hell and unacceptable, but that kind of info is available before hand.


It might sound like I'm siding with the event organizers, but I'm not, they suck at their job ad have poor ethic. But this chick's "I was fooled!" attitude is annoying, she's way too old for this "I had no idea" thing.

I like Courtney, her KCON videos is a good example of regardless of possible questionable behavior people enjoy watching SEEs:

Megan Morrone - INTP

What type is this guy?, I really like him and the way he talks. The ILI is quite naive

[Sol]

Elliott Hulse (elliottsaidwhat) - ESFP

[wacey]

Elliott Hulse (elliottsaidwhat) - ESFP

I follow him on facebook and there is no doubt in my mind what-so-ever that he is ESFp. His posts consist of -his spirituality -his journey - his following - pictures of his kids and him being a domestic beast Dad - pics of him and his wife who he met in high school (really geeky looking skinny white lady) - he also posts pictures of him sitting in lotus pose on mats meditating.

[hatchback176]

Alex Jones from Infowars - ESFP

Slavoj Zizek - ESFP

[Bertrand]

put on the glasses

[Sol]

JJ's One Girl Band (RageAgainstFacebook) - ISFJ


Canal da Haru (HaruJiggly) - ISFJ


PJ Dreams ASMR - ISFJ

[Chae]

ILI-

[Chae]

Kenya Moore - Classic ESI-.

[silke]

might be ESI (so/sx)

[Sol]

Jayda Fransen - ISFJ

link

[The Reality Denialist]

DizzieDollie7


ILI

[Bertrand]

she reminds me a lot of my crim law ILI professor, there's definitely some Fi Se DS going on there with them

[Aylen]

DizzieDollie7
ILI

She has Asperger's. I don't think she is a logical type. Her videos deal with ethical issues more than anything. She reminds me of someone I know who is mentally "slow" and SEI.

[Sol]

DizzyDollie7 - ISFP
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1238956

[The Reality Denialist]

She has Asperger's. I don't think she is a logical type. Her videos deal with ethical issues more than anything. She reminds me of someone I know who is mentally "slow" and SEI.

super ego types can look very similar. Ethical sensing types do not that often dabble in the realm of what is ethical in a general sense. She is very sarcastic, spends time writing books, is in imagination a lot etc. I have checked that she is not mentally slow and appears to have neurological issues which in itself might make some sort of slow impression.

[Bertrand]

yeah I don't buy SEI w/ autism. its just ILI

[Sol]

super ego types can look very similar

They don't, as among the most differing types.
In some degree they may behave closer in situations of superego activation, like when meeting new people and trying to give better impression. After a short adoptation or in habitual conditions (like with bloggers), - people behave rather naturally.

[Skepsis]

Ni

[The Reality Denialist]

They don't, as among the most differing types.
In some degree they may behave closer in situations of superego activation, like when meeting new people and trying to give better impression. After a short adoptation or in habitual conditions (like with bloggers), - people behave rather naturally.

And you just gave a contradiction when it comes to your very own methods. That is what role gives off at times.

Her is as dry as it can be. Close to zero but still conscious.

[Sol]

And you just gave a contradiction when it comes to your very own methods.

I've just pointed that to say that far types look as close is evident idiocy. And what factor could the ones with surface knowledge and bad skills to lead to those thoughts.

Look my types examples, - this will help you to distinguish between superego (lol) types.

[The Reality Denialist]

I've just pointed that to say that far types look as close is evident idiocy. And what factor could the ones with surface knowledge and bad skills to lead to those thoughts.

Look my types examples, - this will help you to distinguish between superego (lol) types.

yeah those typings are excellent material to confirm lots of things not really about socionics but about...


Anyways I'm not going to continue this...

[Sol]

the example of INTP. meditate, troll

Canary Quill Astrology - ILI

[Bertrand]

yeah I don't buy SEI w/ autism. its just ILI

Talanov points out here creative Te is "unambiguously predisposed to the symptoms of autism and alexithymia"

[Attis]

yeah I don't buy SEI w/ autism. its just ILI

Yeah, as an autistic ILI her demeanor is quite similar to mine.

[Aylen]

Talanov points out here creative Te is "unambiguously predisposed to the symptoms of autism and alexithymia"

It seems more like dysfunctional Si, in the autistic people I have known so I would not type them for that reason. I didn't find the reference on the page. You want to point out the full paragraph and/or where it exists?

Here are the symptoms of autism. Are xLI predisposed to the symptoms or is there a lot of xLI being mistyped is a good question to ask in these cases? Seems I have run into more self typed LII who also say they have autism than ILI so I would have to disagree with your quote without more information. I still think the woman is SEI.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/symptoms



Also this is pretty interesting for those who type Temple SLI.

http://typeindepth.com/2015/10/autism-in-depth/

[at sirac son of sirac]

It seems more like dysfunctional Si, in the autistic people I have known so I would not type them for that reason. I didn't find the reference on the page. You want to point out the full paragraph and/or where it exists?

Here are the symptoms of autism. Are xLI predisposed to the symptoms or is there a lot of xLI being mistyped is a good question to ask in these cases? Seems I have run into more self typed LII who also say they have autism than ILI so I would have to disagree with your quote without more information. I still think the woman is SEI.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/symptoms



Also this is pretty interesting for those who type Temple SLI.

http://typeindepth.com/2015/10/autism-in-depth/

I had asked an ESE about that today, am I autistic, or rather, I thought sometimes I was, and she laughed.

We were talking about speaking our minds in terms of work related things. I'm quite a literal person and honest, so sometimes it's not the best for shuttle diplomacy with various bosses etc, but it's something I've finally managed to work out - the illogicalness of illogical requests. illogical questions vs the overall profile.

So no, not autistic haha, just Fe unaware, but less so now.

I think Simon Cowell is an ILI, he's a bit better now, but some of the things he's allowed himself to say, in terms of being subtle as a brick with his criticism, has been very much about Fe PoLR.

[Sol]

Autism may to lead to supressed emotionality. It's known some such people may do T operations more effectively than average. One of the reasons - supressed F region. If to assume polr as the weakest function, than types having there F may to have traits of autists the most expressed. Introversion is another behavioral correlation, so such they come to porl Fe.
But it does not mean that the probability of this disorder among F types is not significant to use this as argument for ILI.
She looks emotional, as I have no doubts in SEI. The above is the example of ILI to compare.

[Aylen]

I had asked an ESE about that today, am I autistic, or rather, I thought sometimes I was, and she laughed.

We were talking about speaking our minds in terms of work related things. I'm quite a literal person and honest, so sometimes it's not the best for shuttle diplomacy with various bosses etc, but it's something I've finally managed to work out - the illogicalness of illogical requests. illogical questions vs the overall profile.

So no, not autistic haha, just Fe unaware, but less so now.

I think Simon Cowell is an ILI, he's a bit better, but some of the things he's allowed himself to say, in terms of being subtle as a brick with his criticism, has been very much about Fe PoLR.

The two ILI I was closest to in my life were intelligent, aware men. One was Te sub and the other Ni. The Ni sub told me he thought he was autistic once he started reading about it. He wasn't. I explained to him exactly why he wasn't and he believed me. I understand why he asked but tbh he was raised by two emotionally cold people, EII mom and SLE dad who despised each other. He was not raised in a close loving family.

Anyone would feel autistic if they had to spend holidays with my extended family, even me sometimes. It was his Fe polr which made them not like him at first. No one in my family thought he had a mental disability. They just thought he wasn't very friendly or warm. He was caring though. Not much toward strangers but he was mostly polite to strangers. He definitely cared about my family and his pets. He probably cared more about cats than some humans. The only time I saw him cry was when his cat died. He also cried when I left him. He was kind of robotic but not in an ASD way. I had no doubt he loved me even if he wasn't demonstrative of it. My step dad was the same way.

[at sirac son of sirac]

The two ILI I was closest to in my life were intelligent, aware men. One was Te sub and the other Ni. The Ni sub told me he thought he was autistic once he started reading about it. He wasn't. I explained to him exactly why he wasn't and he believed me. I understand why he asked but tbh he was raised by two emotionally cold people, EII mom and SLE dad who despised each other. He was not raised in a close loving family.

Anyone would feel autistic if they had to spend holidays with my extended family, even me sometimes. It was his Fe polr which made them not like him at first. No one in my family thought he had a mental disability. They just thought he wasn't very friendly or warm. He was caring though. Not much toward strangers but he was mostly polite to strangers. He definitely cared about my family and his pets. He probably cared more about cats than some humans. The only time I saw him cry was when his cat died. He also cried when I left him. He was kind of robotic but not in an ASD way. I had no doubt he loved me even if he wasn't demonstrative of it. My step dad was the same way.

I looked into this too myself before, and sat a test on it (internet one), turned out i'm not. I think in the past I may have been Te sub, for for various reasons in my life I think I have became Si sub, i'm less producing, more into inner peace. There's nothing wrong with being Si sub, it's all good, but I suspect over time all things going well, I will become a balanced subtype. Balance is good - even in type

[Sol]

he was raised by two emotionally cold people, EII mom and SLE dad who despised each other

Fi types are not emotionally cold. They express emotions in other way than Fe, with lesser of bells and whistles.
The problem of family could be bad or formalized emotional contact with him and between relatives because of lesser friendly relations. In such case people either set on negative and more quarrel or stay indifferent, also they minimize the communication to reduce the negative. Generally, people may find the relations outside of family to compensate this.

[wacey]

Autism has ZERO to do with information metabolism. I have much experience with autistic people, its a huge list of issues and none of them are congruent with IE's and functions.

Further, ILI descriptions consistently talk about them having the MOST self awareness, and the MOST introspective, followed by IEI. Calling a ILI autistic because they are not *participating* is seriously misjudging what a ILI does and does not think about.

I have met NT's (went to the coast this fall with one) who I accused of being autistic, but only as an insult, which was and still is in my view WELL deserving.

I know one ESE woman who has three children under the age of 12. Unfortunately 2 are HIGHLY autistic (eye tracking twitches, problems reading social cues, problems handling emotional reactions, the list goes ON AND ON). Fortunately this ESE has done a TREMENDOUS job teaching her children *manners* and how to participate in the world, as well as been immensely supportive and nurturing whilst creating boundaries (one dinner "use your please and thank-yous, what do you say when you want something at the table../" for example).

[wacey]

Fi types are not emotionally cold. They express emotions in other way than Fe, with lesser of bells and whistles.
The problem of family could be bad or formalized emotional contact with him and between relatives because of lesser friendly relations. In such case people either set on negative and more quarrel or stay indifferent, also they minimize the communication to reduce the negative. Generally, people may find the relations outside of family to compensate this.

Emotions are emotions. Fe people are not walking around being DRAMATIC all the time either. Actually, I've seen LSE be incredibly obtuse and emotional at totally inappropriate moments---> "what are you doing why are you doing it THAT way?!" -->red faced and stressed to the max.

[Sol]

Fe people are not walking around being DRAMATIC all the time either.

Fe types are too demonstrative emotional, what makes them overdramatic in my taste. Also they try to manipulate your emotional state, while Te types often see their emotions as annoying. Also they lesser care what you'd like and sometimes are senselessly not polite. S types among them don't distinguish your emotions, like between when you are calm or sad, - so by trying to do better they do worse ; same hurt they do when you feel bad indeed while they press you additionally by weird emotionality.
I want more base Fi near. To heal my psychic traumas caused by Fe-s.