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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I found it a little easier when watching him speaking to Parliamentary Committee. Even though it is a show too, but maybe slightly more natural

    OK, that was lots of definitive logic.
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    Meant to reply with quote, not sure how my finger slipped to constructive.

    I know an EIE who is very similar to Brand in many ways, I'd even say his second typing is IEE, which I see others going with. He's very smart and can come off quite T, but anyone who truly knows him would see this is not the case. He seems quite connected to Brand.

    Btw, Brand is right. He was a bit in that dude's face on the one vid, lol, but he's right on everything he's saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    OK, that was lots of definitive logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Meant to reply with quote, not sure how my finger slipped to constructive.

    I know an EIE who is very similar to Brand in many ways, I'd even say his second typing is IEE, which I see others going with. He's very smart and can come off quite T, but anyone who truly knows him would see this is not the case. He seems quite connected to Brand.

    Btw, Brand is right. He was a bit in that dude's face on the one vid, lol, but he's right on everything he's saying.

    Yeah, EIE's like Ti very much. His persona just speaks for strong self expression and oratorial skills. EIE is still my choice. He can handle huge groups of people so well.
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    The problem I have with the EIE typing is that his ethical functions don't seem convincing to me. EIEs have a much more genuine, convincing attitude. Russel Brand is playing his role a little too obviously. In Brand I see extreme Fe activation + creative subtype but NeTi spinning under the hood.

    There are of course C-EIE comedians, but they are different from him. In Sweden there is Jonas Gardell for example.

    EDIT: I've reconsidered: Brand could actually be EIE
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    I see your point Tallmo, that is quite plausible. He does seem a bit childlike as well, I was noticing even moreso in his interview with Morrissey I posted in Morrissey thread

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    Extremely obvious ILE, reminds me of fellow ILE's Jim Carrey and Alan Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    There are of course C-EIE comedians, but they are different from him. In Sweden there is Jonas Gardell for example.
    This one is one example of creative EIE


    Those two do seem bit similar. That smile, lol.

    But #2 candidate for Don Juan is... IEE. Logical types are mostly incapable of being one.
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    Garry Shandling was another EIE comedian

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    He looks a ton like this actor Jimmi Simpson to me

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmqZD6Y-ao

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKD8MK3PUk

    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    This one is one example of creative EIE


    Those two do seem bit similar. That smile, lol.

    But #2 candidate for Don Juan is... IEE. Logical types are mostly incapable of being one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Lol, socionics has ruined my movie enjoyments for ever. Man and woman both EIE's in a same scene...
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    Where be the man and woman EIE? Maybe I'm so deadset on socionics right now because I want to know where to find my dual LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Where be the man and woman EIE? Maybe I'm so deadset on socionics right now because I want to know where to find my dual LOL
    Picked up very similar mannerisms, body language out of those two and similar eyes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmqZD6Y-ao
    Robots from the same factory with different skin and voice.
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    I like her shoulders

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    he looks like an effeminate dramatic narcissistic borderline psychopath. Which is a very usual look for an EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    He also has bipolar disorder

    I have also been informed, adhd
    Fair, I just don't think this would make an EIE goofily hysterical in the way he is.
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    >looks at the first video op posted
    >how do people type him as ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khola View Post
    What type do you think he is?







    EIE (ayooooo)
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    Joe Rogan seems to quite like him, lol, has anyone typed Rogan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Joe Rogan seems to quite like him, lol, has anyone typed Rogan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    This one is one example of creative EIE
    yes he could be.

    Those two do seem bit similar. That smile, lol.
    I'm pretty sure of Jonas Gardell as EIE-C since I've watched his stand up performances.

    But #2 candidate for Don Juan is... IEE. Logical types are mostly incapable of being one.
    yes IEE definitely. But there are cases of ILE don juans also.

    Anyway, I've slept a few nights now since my last post and I have to admit that Brand could be EIE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    This one is one example of creative EIE
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    Btw, another argument in favor of EIE. Most of his humor comes from Fe, Ti is more supporting it. Heavy emphasis on delivery, intonation, timing, voices, talking to the crowd, "acting". He uses a lot of flowery language and embellishments that serve little purpose other than dressing it all up and image crafting. The presentation is the main event, his personality. He has clever jokes, but its more about being invested in and knowing him as a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    I'm not even sure if you are serious anymore. He is acting like complete fool and you contradict yourself by that typing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    But there are cases of ILE don juans also.
    By showing indirect maneuverable aggression towards their targets over time and exhausting them to give in to their demands in the process of lasting for several days? That is the only way I could see it (and I do not practice it and would rather stay alone but I've seen it in media coverage of few individuals).
    That is because ILE's tend to be categorically affective if it makes sense. It is kind of hard to push beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NASS CODA View Post
    Btw, another argument in favor of EIE. Most of his humor comes from Fe, Ti is more supporting it. Heavy emphasis on delivery, intonation, timing, voices, talking to the crowd, "acting". He uses a lot of flowery language and embellishments that serve little purpose other than dressing it all up and image crafting. The presentation is the main event, his personality. He has clever jokes, but its more about being invested in and knowing him as a person.
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    The SLI typing by Sol actually made me laugh, so I appreciate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    Russell Brand is a caricature of Fe. This is probably your worst typing yet.
    read with more attention about whose type I've said SLI
    then read the theme to find my opinion about Brand

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    Is it weird that his sense of fashion is not what I dislike about him?

    Actually I don't dislike him.

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    Brand has charisma, is smart and I agree with a lot of his ideas politically and such, but I do wonder how is actual character really is.

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    When I took a brief (very temporary) interest in kundalini yoga I saw that he had YouTube classes. Didn't watch any. I wonder about the people who did and what they're like.

    I always found him ostentatiously dislikable, and even if I didn't watch those videos, they kinda warmed me to him? A little bit? Like the kind of person with enough hubris to make public kundalini classes... kinda cute by virtue of interesting and vicariously embarrassing.

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    Eie

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    I agree with everyone who says EIE.

    The man's an FeNi beast. How is ILE even on the table? O.o

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    There was an interview with Adam Curtis (SEI) that could suggest supervision, but he was just so awkwardly over the top, it really was cringeworthy. Someone mentioned bipolar and he is likely an E7, but most EIEs I've observed just control themselves better, even if trying to induce a reaction or whatever.
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    I'm jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Oliver Aaron View Post
    I can see and appreciate why people think Russell Brand is ILE.

    Nevertheless, now that we've taken a while to observe him proceed on his political mission, I can safely say that he's a very likely candidate for EIE.

    Sure, he values . That is evident in his argumenation. Nevertheless, I would not say that he has strong . Although used reactively in debates, he never applies it in the advancement of his own ideals, preferring pure, overflowing . Compare this to the likes of Bill Maher, John Cleese and even myself whose rides above . Russell is a master of the persona, the facade of fame that he projects to the media. Indeed, I would say his main motivation in life is not the pursuit of interesting possibilities but the effect he has on the sentiments of others. It is clear that he is a passionate communicator with 4D . The emotion decorates his words even at the expense of coherence which is nothing like the firm communicators seen with LIEs and ILEs and their 4D .

    I would also argue against IEI. Sure he has in the past portrayed a dreamy, go with the flow attitude but this can only be a persona in comparison to the proactive stance he is now taking, not even having to mention the sheer tirelessness with which he has always gone from one thing to the next. As Jeremy Paxman comments, he is going to burn himself out at some point. At the same time IEI is rarely so extreme in their behaviour as emotional effect is always creative to the long term vision .
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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    There was an interview with Adam Curtis (SEI) that could suggest supervision, but he was just so awkwardly over the top, it really was cringeworthy. Someone mentioned bipolar and he is likely an E7, but most EIEs I've observed just control themselves better, even if trying to induce a reaction or whatever.
    You make a good point here, and the other EIE I know of who in my opinion, seems less controlled than say, a 2w3 EIE, types as E7 also

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    Russell Brand is a comedian. He has practiced comedy for years and years, and one of the main tenets of stand up comedy is Ne, it only makes sense that for his "Stage persona", an emphasis on the element is present. Meanwhile if you actually go into his more private, candid moments, there is a blatant emphasis on Fe and Ni. The long term visions he had for his life as a kid that came true, the sense of battling for significance he expresses and the dramatic language employed to convey all of this. Russell Brand is a very troubled EIE. Conan O Brien described his first meeting with him by mentioning Brand's pre stage ritual as approaching comedy as "Life or death", which I struggle to see an ILE do (o Brien is one).

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