+Instinctual Variant Survey

[strangeling]

It changes everyday. What will it be today? I'll tell you tomorrow.

[Absurd]

Sexual |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Social |||||||||||||||||| 54%
Self Preservation |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%

Well, there's goes the soc stacking...

[silke]

Thanks. According to those... so/sx actually seems to be correct for me. So, I maybe didn't mess up your poll, after all. The thing is, it's very easy for me to accept this stacking when I look at each of these instincts individually. I can think: yes, my greatest source of preoccupation and insecurity tend to be in the social realm: where do I stand in relation to other human beings, what does it mean to be human, and what are the peculiarities of being born into this sort of existence as this sort of hairless ape? Then, the sexual instinct feels much more intrinsic to what motivates me from day-to-day than the self-preservation instinct. I'm much more comfortable one-on-one than in groups, and the source of my depression in the past seems to have been having this need for passion frustrated or subjugated in favor of more "practical" matters.

But the implications of this don't add up when I put them together. When I look at the descriptions in your second link (or many of the varying descriptions on the Enneagram sites). I feel like I lack the apparent disregard for creature comforts or physical security or aesthetic sensibilities depicted in sp-last descriptions. It's not what drives me, however, and I tend to get a lot of flack (especially from my family) for not thinking about "settling down/having a career/getting the whole white-picket fence enchilada." I think that innate drive is what these instincts are supposed to be pointing to, right? But every description of so/sp/sx or so/sx/sp is different. As for so/sp... I think I know the sort of person that fits this description, and they seem quite a bit more politically-motivated and socially-skilled than I perceive myself.

My suggestion was based off some of the comparisons drawn between these two stacking on EIDB that pointed out that so/sx communication is 'messy' while so/sp is more collected and dignified but at the expense of coming off somewhat reserved.

from: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...inct-scrapheap

so/sx - chaotic engagement
so/sp - dignified engagement

So/sx is a 'faster' energy, less-planted, less-defined, mentally curious in a capricious way
So/sp is slower-moving, more deliberate/measured/calculated, 'higher' without coming down, intellectually steadfast

Your writing seems be more measured and collected and less capricious and immediate imo and so/sp seemed like a closer fit.

Jumping into things has more to do with seeking to be "stimulated, energized, and engaged" which in the descriptions in the links given is related to sx, not sp nor so.

The "litter" is there because of sx and sp. Also because I don't know how to anticipate my future interests. My issue there has to do with planning difficulties and fluctuating energy levels. My home drives me nuts, and is one of a few reasons why I daydream of running away from it. I am also Neurotic, and the unhealthy sp shows up quite well in that sense. I see no conflict between the 'litter' and me being sx/sp with NeFi, (nor with general Ep temperament).

I suggested so/sx because your descriptions reminded me a whole lot of my roommate who is Fi-IEE so/sx (I have discussed it with her and she agrees to this typing). She will jump into several things but not finish most of them and leave the 'mess' around to deal with at later time, which I have ascribed to EP temperament and scattered nature of sx-secondary (she doesn't have any mood disorders). Sx/sp are described to have a more laser-like, concentrated focus so they generally don't come off as scattered as so/sx's. One of the posters on EIDB wrote up these correlations:

Sp last - messy, scattered
So last - dirty, uncouth
Sx last - clean, parched

Also, I tend to test sp first.
I know that sp descriptions play quite strongly in my attitudes, actions, and daydreamings. But I'm willing entertain the idea that it's related to e6ness not sp. For me, they seem so entwined that I don't know how to fully differentiate them.
Despite tending to test sp first, I think the sx instinct is stronger.

That would make social instinct be your blindspot. How would you describe your relation to it?

Fuck nuggets. I think it's sx/so after all. Then I read an E9 sx description and osdvn;sefcam I have no idea what I'm doing.

one thing I didn't mention last time is that you reminded me somewhat of Aquagraph that's why I went with sx/so but then on a photo you posted you VI'ed more so/sp-like

[Park]

Hello. My type is sex.

[Galen]

Sexual ||||||||||||||||||||| 70%
Social ||||||||||||||| 46%
Self Preservation ||||||||||||||| 50%

okay

[Park]

okay

[anndelise]

I suggested so/sx because your descriptions reminded me a whole lot of my roommate who is Fi-IEE so/sx (I have discussed it with her and she agrees to this typing). She will jump into several things but not finish most of them and leave the 'mess' around to deal with at later time, which I have ascribed to EP temperament and scattered nature of sx-secondary (she doesn't have any mood disorders). Sx/sp are described to have a more laser-like, concentrated focus so they generally don't come off as scattered as so/sx's. One of the posters on EIDB wrote up these correlations:

Sp last - messy, scattered
So last - dirty, uncouth
Sx last - clean, parched


That would make social instinct be your blindspot. How would you describe your relation to it?

I openly admit that I don't grasp the ennegram. As such I feel uncomfortable arguing for or against anything. Espeially when dealing with multiple different descriptions that don't really seem to connect with each other, nor arise out of a consistent set of principles.

I think the better method for me to figure out my enneatype/instincts is to maybe go through things like the test questions and give my thoughts on those and why I answered the way I did. So, the following video covers the first 11 questions from the similarminds.com test. If i'm asked to do the rest, I will consider doing so. But I doubt my enneatype is interesting enough to anyone else but me, and I'd be surprised if anyone listens to the whole video.

[Raver]

My results from the test:

Sexual |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Social ||||||||||||||| 42%
Self Preservation ||||||||||||||||||||| 66%

This leans to sp/sx obviously. It's interesting how many so lasts there are in this forum. I surmise it could be possibly be due to two reasons, either that an so last may not have the opportunity to engage with a large number of acquaintances or they're less likely to care what people think of them online.

[fen]

Three sx-lasts. Three.
Either a lotttt of people are mistyped, or...something is fishy about the forum.

[squirreltual]

one thing I didn't mention last time is that you reminded me somewhat of Aquagraph that's why I went with sx/so but then on a photo you posted you VI'ed more so/sp-like

There's probably some truth in similarity i.e. cringey feelings of resonance when I read his posts. I don't mean cringey in an unkind way though.

I wouldn't VI from any photos I've posted on here though as both times I looked untypical i.e. very hungover/very intoxicated and post-seizure in an Anthrax pit. Ha. Dignified anything is not my strong point It's hard to see sx-last just because I'm an intimacy junkie and tend lose myself to whatever or whoever I get attached to. I don't like to admit that but it's true. A period without intense intimacy is like a small death or something else sounding just as ridiculous.

[mu4]

I think starfall is sp/sx ^_^

[ragnar]

http://similarminds.com/variant.html

Got this:
Sexual |||||| 18%
Social ||||||||||||||||||||| 62%
Self Preservation ||||||||||||||| 46%

[Scapegrace]

What the fuck kind of question is this?

"3) I would rather be without a relationship or close friend than poor or a social reject."

That test is a hot mess.

Sexual |||||||||||||||||| 58%
Social ||||||||||||||||||||| 70%
Self Preservation |||||||||||| 38%

Haha

[Gilly]

Sexual||||||||||||||||||||||||78%
Social||||||||||||||||||54%
Self Preservation||||||||||||34%

[Azure Flame]

I'm so sexual

[squark]

I voted what nobody else had the balls to vote for. Now your poll is complete siuntal.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Sexual |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
Social ||||||||| 26%
Self Preservation ||||||||||||||| 50%

[Scapegrace]

I don't know how you guys manage to get "accurate" results on that similar minds test. The other one is better.

Type 5 SO
Type 4 SP
Type 6 SP
Type 1 SO
Type 8 SX
Type 3 SX
Type 9 SX
Type 2 SP
Type 7 SO

I keep getting SO though. I wonder if it's just because I'm very keen on having good manners.

[Creepy-pikachu]

I don't know how you guys manage to get "accurate" results on that similar minds test. The other one is better.

Type 5 SO
Type 4 SP
Type 6 SP
Type 1 SO
Type 8 SX
Type 3 SX
Type 9 SX
Type 2 SP
Type 7 SO

I keep getting SO though. I wonder if it's just because I'm very keen on having good manners.

inconsistant biznatch, plz

[woofwoofl]

sx |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
so ||||||||||||||| 42%
sp |||||||||||||||||| 58%

Sure, why not.

Three sx-lasts. Three.
Either a lotttt of people are mistyped, or...something is fishy about the forum.

I'm gonna go with "something is fishy about the forum". Likely that so/sp and sp/so peeps didn't do the poll as much, be it by simply not doing the poll, not seeing the thread, not being active on the forum, not joining the forum, not knowing of the forum, not joinng any forum at all, not knowing of socionics, not delving into anything that would lead them there, or not even using the internet much, if at all in the timeframe. Hunt down the "why"s behind all of the aforementioned.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Type 5 SX
Type 8 SP
Type 4 SP
Type 1 SX
Type 6 SP
Type 7 SP
Type 9 SX
Type 3 SX
Type 2 SP

[woofwoofl]

[Radio]

Derp.

Type 4 SO
Type 6 SP
Type 9 SX
Type 5 SP
Type 2 SP
Type 7 SO
Type 1 SP
Type 3 SX
Type 8 SO

[Anglas]

[ashlesha]

i've taken this test several times and i alwayss get something different.
choosing between two vague words doesn't really work for me.



You are most likely a type 4 (the Individualist) with 5 wing

Sexual variant

Type 4 SX
Type 5 SX
Type 3 SX
Type 6 SP
Type 8 SP
Type 7 SO
Type 1 SO
Type 9 SX
Type 2 SP

[Anglas]

Wait... lol

[Absurd]

Still E8. Enneagram is funneh.

[Galen]

You are most likely a type 6 (the Loyalist)
with balanced wings


Sexual variant




Type 6 SX
Type 4 SO
Type 3 SX
Type 7 SO
Type 1 SO
Type 8 SX
Type 5 SO
Type 2 SP
Type 9 SX

9 at the bottom is a first. Interesting

[willekeurig]

interesting.. I never bothered to study enneagram types very much, but I've been under the impression I was a 4w5 rather than 5w4. But now that I read it the 5w4 might actually be right. I need to read more about this. I have no idea how I could have any 8-ness in me tough. I thought the stereotypical 8 would be some (E)ST type in socionics.

[squark]

That test sucks. It told me I was an 8 earlier too, but I lost those results and took it again. It shouldn't change so much from time to time - makes it far too easy to manipulate to get the results you want. (If you weren't honest on the other test, it would also be easy to manipulate it in a direction that you wanted.) I think the first time I took this one the order was 8-1-3-5 . . . with 2 and 9 at the bottom. This time:

You are most likely a type 1 (the Reformer) with 9 wing

Sexual variant

Type 1 SX
Type 8 SP
Type 5 SX
Type 3 SP
Type 4 SP
Type 7 SO
Type 6 SP
Type 9 SX
Type 2 SX

Anyway, tests on their own are useless. Don't go by them alone.

[Absurd]

What do you want to go with if not tests, squark?

[Roro]

IDK.


You are most likely a type 1 (the Reformer) with 2 wing

Self-preservation variant

Type 1 SP
Type 6 SP
Type 3 SP
Type 4 SO
Type 2 SP
Type 5 SO
Type 9 SP
Type 8 SX
Type 7 SO


Sexual ||||||||| 30%
Social |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Self Preservation ||||||||||||||| 42%

[Hays]

Another day, another test...

You are most likely a type 9 (the Peacemaker) with 1 wing

Self-preservation variant


Type 9 SP
Type 6 SO
Type 4 SP
Type 5 SO
Type 2 SP
Type 1 SP
Type 3 SP
Type 7 SO
Type 8 SX


Ok, after reading more about the 9 this all seems pretty correct so I might go with enneagram 9 SP/SO.

Or maybe not as husband thinks I'm a 1w9.

[silke]

These tests produce accurate results only about half the time. I've found this questionnaire to be more useful @anndelise since you commented that you prefer going over specific questions you might want to take a look at these. They work in manner of functional dimensionality in socionics i.e. the easier it is to provide an answer, the more thorough and detailed it is, the more likely it is your first or second instinct.

Self Preservation
- Do you sensitively respond to your body's needs? When you experience discomfort do you take care to promptly eliminate its source?
- What is your relationship with food - buying, preparing, eating? Do you monitor your nutrition? Do you invest time into food preparation and purchasing exactly the food that meets your dietary requirements?
- How important is your home? How much time and effort have you invested in arranging your living space? Do you decorate/personalize your living space? Do you often fantasize about a perfect home? How important is order and cleanliness of your living space to you? How cozy is your current living environment?
- How important is security for you? Do you regularly devote time and effort into securing and stabilizing your life?
- Do you carefully manage your savings? Do you often think about your income? What is enough? Is salary a major part in your consideration of a job? Do you follow deals and offers that would allow you to save some money?
- Do you take care of your health? Are you up to date in your health care appointments with doctors, dentists, etc? Do you go to the gym or track you caloric intake?

Sexual
- Is it easy to spark your interest? Do you often fell interested, invigorated, impassioned by someone or something (e.g. a hobby, subject, or pursuit)?
- Is it easy for you to hone in to that which has sparked your interest? Do you feel like your life is in some way directed by these feelings?
- Is being attractive to others an important quality for you? Do you easily spot attractions between other people?
- How often do you share your personal experiences and preferences with others in conversation? Do you feel at ease when connecting to someone on emotional/personal basis? Do you feel like you need to disclose some personal information in order to relate to someone?
- Do you easily discern emotional stimuli and motivations of others?
- Can you easily tell when someone is flirting with you? Do you often flirt? Do people have trouble telling when you are being just friendly and when you are expressing interest in them?
- What role does sexuality play in your life? Do you find it easy to openly talk about sexual topics?

Social
- Do you seek to come in contact with people? Are you open? Do you strive to become acquainted with and be known to everyone in your group?
- When moving to a new place how important is it for you to make new friends? Do you feel like you have a social support network?
- Do you experience a sense of belonging to a community? Are you engaged with social issues? Are you a member of any organized groups? What role or position do you usually play in groups?
- Do you easily notice when people behave in an inconsiderate, imprudent, discourteous, untactful manner? Does this bother you even if they aren't related to you?
- Are you sensitive to being socially ostracized? Is it important for you to be accepted by your peers? Is it important to you that your partner is acceptable to your friends and family?
- Do you engage in discussions of socially relevant topics (e.g. human rights, social contracts, justice and fairness, cultural and religious themes, political systems, recent news and events)?
- Do you follow the news? Do you keep aware of what is happening with your friends and distant relatives, in your community, country, worldwide?

I openly admit that I don't grasp the ennegram. As such I feel uncomfortable arguing for or against anything. Especially when dealing with multiple different descriptions that don't really seem to connect with each other, nor arise out of a consistent set of principles.

It was discussed on enneagram forums that the principle behind this sp/sx/so instinct model may be the three-layered structure of the brain, where sp instinct would correspond to the oldest part of the brain, the R-complex, sx instinct would correspond to the second layer, the limbic system, and the social instinct - to the third and newest layer (short overview); whichever capacities are assigned to each one of these layers could then be assumed to be properties of these instincts.

This leans to sp/sx obviously. It's interesting how many so lasts there are in this forum. I surmise it could be possibly be due to two reasons, either that an so last may not have the opportunity to engage with a large number of acquaintances or they're less likely to care what people think of them online.

It could also indicate that there is a bias favoring certain instincts and stacking over others, which imo is the most likely explanation. The sp/so and so/sp stackings fall into disfavor due to being portrayed as "cold and impersonal" and quite inaccurately imo since the social instinct has its own kind of warmth and charm. There is pro-sx bias while social instinct is often considered to be shallow, an equivalent of being plugged into the group 'hive mind', so most people end up typing as sx/sp, sp/sx and sx/so stackings and virtually nobody types as so/sp.

Three sx-lasts. Three.
Either a lotttt of people are mistyped, or...something is fishy about the forum.

There are a lot of people who haven't voted on this poll and I do think there are a few mistypes. To keep you company this is whom I think is also sp/so - Pa3, mune, glam, jennifer, Kim, CPig, InvisibleJim, labster, FDG, HandiAce, Robyn, Ath, Krig and there are at least half a dozen so/sp's. Overall these are probably more so-lasts online and fewer so-firsts than in general population.

[anndelise]

@siuntal
Here are my answers to those questions.

 

- Do you sensitively respond to your body's needs?
This could be interpreted in different ways. I wouldn't call myself sensitive, but I do listen to it's feedback, and try to adjust accordingly.

- When you experience discomfort do you take care to promptly eliminate its source?
usually, but depending on the situation I might try to finish an immediate problem first

- What is your relationship with food - buying, preparing, eating?
I've been trying to primarily eat fresh/frozen vegetables, grass raised/finished beef/buffalo, local cage free eggs, and reduce grain based goods. However, I still crave foods I grew up on, and when stressed will resort to quick foods. (Unfortunately, I'm stressed a lot.)

I detest following recipes, so never really learned how to cook. Most of my meals that I actually prepare are simple one-pot type mishmashes. I don't know how to cook meats, and can't normally afford beyond ground meats, so that's pretty much it: a cup or two of vegetables, maybe a starch like corn or potatoes, 1/4-1/2 cup meat, and some sauce or seasoning.

In the summer I eat lighter veggies, maybe a few berries (I don't generally like fruit). In winter I eat more roots and squashes. In the warm weather I eat 3-4 light meals a day. In colder weather I'm not much hungry nor active, so I wind up eating 1-2 heavier meals a day. I prefer to eat when I am hungry, rather than based on time. Which is one reason why I set it so that the members of my household make our own meals at our own times. This means I don't have to worry about their food needs/desires, only my own.

- Do you monitor your nutrition?
I try to improve my nutrition, but with the stress eating I'm not doing as well as I would like.

- Do you invest time into food preparation and purchasing exactly the food that meets your dietary requirements?
I have no patience for tracking numbers nor keeping food diaries. I've tried that, and it just adds more stress and uses up more time/energy than I am willing to put into food. I figure by taking daily bio-available multivitamins and needed extras like vitD and Krill oil, with fresh foods, it's better than not.

- How important is your home?
It's a roof over my head and provides safety from the elements. It is also a place to store my stuff. I pretty much spend most of my time there, when I'm not walking around.

- How much time and effort have you invested in arranging your living space?
Before my daughter, my places usually contained the basics with only a few extras. Not much furniture, I'd no problem sitting on the floors. I insisted on cleaned floors and counters/shelves. Most of my stuff was used stuff which people didn't want anymore.
After my daughter, I finally got a couch, but now, with cats, I won't have a couch due to all the cat hairs.

Also after having my daughter, I've had less energy to maintain floors and counters the way I like them. And I've had a difficult time getting rid of things, because of not knowing if we'll want/need it later.

However, last year I finally got so frustrated that I cleared out two sheds worth of stored stuff, and got rid of over half my books and notes. Once my daughter is gone, I'll have the energy and focus available to even further reduce this stuff. Yay!!

- Do you decorate/personalize your living space?
Not generally. Decorations usually collect dust/hairs and require regular cleaning and care. So I prefer to avoid them. I do like to have matching plates/bowls, utensils, pots/pans, cups. I also like having curtains match wall colors, tables/chairs, or bedspread colors. I usually have folding tables and folding chairs, so I can put them away when I want room for exercising, playing, or dancing.

Sometimes I will set aside a small place for little..and I do mean tiny...nicknacks that have special meaning to me.

- Do you often fantasize about a perfect home?
I fantasize about a cleaner home, and a more comfortable home. I can easily appreciate some of the homes of others, but I would not want to go through the work and upkeep their homes require. I cannot stand walking into homes that make me scared to touch anything. Whether from fear of what I'll accidently touch (ewww) to fear of mussing up their 'perfection'. I prefer comfortable, lived in areas.

- How important is order and cleanliness of your living space to you?
At the very very least, it's important to me that the floors are cleared as are the tops of whatever is there. I cannot stand clutter at eye level, period. It drives me bonkers. However, with that said...I currently have boxes stacked on shelving systems that have clutter at eye level...and yes, it makes me want to run away and hide.
I am not an orderly person, so I seriously doubt my home environments will ever be orderly, lol.

- How cozy is your current living environment?
I hate it. Picking up cat hair all the fucking time. Clutter calling out to me to do something with it, but having very little available mental energy leftover from dealing with daughter to take care of home/stuff. I hate it! and it's one of the reasons I fantasize about running away from it.

- How important is security for you?
Everyone has their own ideas of what is or isn't 'secure' enough. I've been poor most my life, but then, usa 'poor' is still better living than the majority of other countries. I want the basics: protection from the elements (weather, thefts, violence, etc), access to clean bathroom and shower, place to store belongings, place to store and cook foods, etc. Money has never really been a huge priority for me. It's needed for the basics, but I'm not willing to waste my life, physical energy, and mental energy for much more than the basics with some hobby/interest extras. I'd rather use that energy towards pursuing whatever my interest is at the moment.
I do, however, spend a large amount of time working on my psychological stability, which involves psychological/emotional security.

- Do you regularly devote time and effort into securing and stabilizing your life?
If you're referring to physical stuff, not particularly. Just the basics.
However if you're including psychological stability, then hell yes. Put it this way...above all else, my psychological/emotional stabiliy is the most important thing to me. I would rather be on my own than to be around someone or something that messes with it, even inadvertantly. I have willingly dumped boyfriends just for accidently triggering certain issues.

- Do you carefully manage your savings?
Savings? What savings? Lol.

- Do you often think about your income?
I am in constant fear of losing my income. 'So get a job' you say? Pfft, I have never been able to keep a job. I usually leave it after about 3 months, in search of something different. Off hand, I don't think I have ever had the same type of job twice. Maybe there's a couple I don't remember??

I am also in constant fear that something will happen to Richard, which would result in me losing my home. And what would I do if that happened? Which has been one of the motivating pushes for decluttering my stuff.

- What is enough?
The basic physical stuff covered. The rest is used for pursuing personal interests.

- Is salary a major part in your consideration of a job?
No. My primary consideration is the hours, amount of stress, left over energy, and how interesting it is to me.

- Do you follow deals and offers that would allow you to save some money?
I have found that doing this tends to require quite a bit of effort and time. Though I will often settle for less than I wanted, I've little impulse control, and am not willing to spend too much time looking for The Best Deal Eva.

- Do you take care of your health?
Eh, I take vitamins, try to improve my eating, try to improve my fitness, worry over odd little things that happens to my body, keep myself clean, etc. Since the time my back had quit on me, I do what I can to help it out, working on posture, resting it, trying not to strain it, etc.
However when something happens to my body, I tend to forget that I can take aspirin or such, or put off calling for a dr, expecting my body to eventually heal itself. Even when my back had quit on me, my first instinct was to work through it on my own, until Richard would remind me that I could take a pill to reduce the pain. It was a couple of years later that I finally made an appt with a chiropractor, because I had reached a limit where things weren't improving anymore and I felt I needed more information. I got some helpful info about what was happening in my spine (xrays and an explaination from him), and used that info for further improvement. Then after hitting another stall, I finally saw him for a couple of months for adjustments, but then I accidently came upon a helpful solution, and quit his appts and used the solution to drastically improve my spine's functioning.

- Are you up to date in your health care appointments with doctors, dentists, etc?
No, as mentioned above, going to a dr isn't the first thing I think of. I tend to trust my body and mind to work things out. Internet searches help, too. When I do go to a dentist, it's usually for major work that has been put off for years, lol. Like getting all four wisdom teeth pulled along with some other stuff. I don't go in for cleanings, etc. I don't get flu shots. I only did my female yearly exams because of some pills I was taking, and dr wouldn't refill without an appt. now that I don't take them anymore, I only intend to go if absolutely necessary.

- Do you go to the gym or track you caloric intake?
No. I don't believe in exercising strictly for the purpose of exercising. I'd rather it be part of either playing, or daily living. I do, however, walk when I can to help relieve stresses, and bounce on the minitrampoline to help get the lymph moving.
As mentioned above, I do not successfully track numbers etc.

 

- Is it easy to spark your interest?
YES! Lol. Actually, more like usually yes, unless I am in a depression cycle.

- Do you often fell interested, invigorated, impassioned by someone or something (e.g. a hobby, subject, or pursuit)?
YES!

- Is it easy for you to hone in to that which has sparked your interest?
Usually. Of course, part of the interest is figuring out what about it attracted my interest in the first place, heh.

- Do you feel like your life is in some way directed by these feelings?
Duh, of course.

- Is being attractive to others an important quality for you?
Eh..I'm iffy on this. I do fantasize about someone I'm interested being attracted to me. But being attractive isn't so important that I'd spend money and time and energy trying to be attractive for someone else. If I like how I am, and the other person doesn't, then it's a mismatch, oh well. Next!

- Do you easily spot attractions between other people?
I like to think I do.

- How often do you share your personal experiences and preferences with others in conversation?
As often as can, lol. I like hearing/reading of theirs as well, even if I don't have the same interests.

- Do you feel at ease when connecting to someone on emotional/personal basis?
Depends on the person?? And what we are connecting over.

- Do you feel like you need to disclose some personal information in order to relate to someone?
Disclosing information is one way of relating. Another is through shared experiences (such as doing an activity together, or having gone through an experience together).

- Do you easily discern emotional stimuli and motivations of others?
I like to think I do. But I'm open to them telling me I am wrong, or correcting me. This has the added benefit of helping me expand my understandings of people.

- Can you easily tell when someone is flirting with you?
Depends on the person. I am also very insecure and often question myself over if it's actually happening.

- Do you often flirt?
I joke quite a bit, often teasing them about something. I meet the eyes a lot, and am kinda touchy when I feel comfortable. This often gets taken as me flirting or showing more interest than I actually feel.

- Do people have trouble telling when you are being just friendly and when you are expressing interest in them?
Yes, quite often. And it's caused all sorts of troubles, argh. Also, see above about flirting.

- What role does sexuality play in your life?
I have issues regarding sex. I have a long history of hopping into sex pretty quickly into getting to know someone. But I bore of it quickly, and have a history of quickly moving on to someone new. But...at the same time, I don't consider myself really all that sexual. I guess I distinguish 'sex' from being 'sexual'.

- Do you find it easy to openly talk about sexual topics?
Most things, yes.

 

- Do you seek to come in contact with people?
yes

- Are you open?
usually, unless it's very emotional to me...that is much harder to be open about. For example, I find it easier to be open about events/actions than about my emotions.

- Do you strive to become acquainted with and be known to everyone in your group?
no, nor do I have a 'group'

- When moving to a new place how important is it for you to make new friends?
I eventually make a few acquantances that I'll call friends, but it's usually a more 'hey, how's it going' thing than actually spending time together.

- Do you feel like you have a social support network?
no

- Do you experience a sense of belonging to a community?
no

- Are you engaged with social issues?
no

- Are you a member of any organized groups?
Richard and I met at a **** group. We've spent some time hanging out with similar couples, but found it too...I don,t know the word, but basically we found it unsatisfying, too much pressure, too impersonal, lol, and quit. We thought we had made a couple of friends, but their lives seem to revolve around the group **** thing, which we aren't all that into. We couldn't connect with anyone on other levels, so left it. And none of them have called us as friends, so...their loss.

- What role or position do you usually play in groups?
I'm rarely in a group. The above mentioned one we were kind of outside observers. In highschool over 20 years ago, I was usually placed into a leadership position.

- Do you easily notice when people behave in an inconsiderate, imprudent, discourteous, untactful manner?
Depends on the situation and the people involved? Blatant, yes.

- Does this bother you even if they aren't related to you?
What would their relationship to me have to do with anything? If it interfered with my own interests/goals, yes it bothers me. If I see it interfering needlessly with someone else's interests/goals, yes, it bothers me.

- Are you sensitive to being socially ostracized?
Is the ostracization interfering with my ability to obtain resources or pursue a personal interest? If yes, then yes. If no, then who really cares what those people think of me.

- Is it important for you to be accepted by your peers?
Who are my peers?

- Is it important to you that your partner is acceptable to your friends and family?
My partner is there for me, not for them. If they have a problem with him, that's their problem, not mine.

- Do you engage in discussions of socially relevant topics (e.g. human rights, social contracts, justice and fairness, cultural and religious themes, political systems, recent news and events)?
Rarely.

- Do you follow the news?
no

- Do you keep aware of what is happening with your friends and distant relatives, in your community, country, worldwide?
friends & close family - about 1-5 times a year, usually.
The rest - no

I will check out the triunebrain link you gave, but I hope someone questioned this theory and sp's supposed connection with money, savings, and long term maintenance & planning.

[Galen]

I'm going to answer these questions because wheeee

Self-Preservation
- Do you sensitively respond to your body's needs? When you experience discomfort do you take care to promptly eliminate its source?
I find myself more readily trying to shrug off and bear with whatever maladies or illnesses I may have, but of course there's some threshold down the line where I can't take it and start to act against it. It's more like a skill I've had to teach myself over the years than an innate drive.

- What is your relationship with food - buying, preparing, eating? Do you monitor your nutrition? Do you invest time into food preparation and purchasing exactly the food that meets your dietary requirements?
Nah, although I'm sure if I made an honest effort to do my research I could get into better nutritional habits. Though tbh this doesn't necessarily seem Sp-related, as I've known many the overweight Self-Pres people.

- How important is your home? How much time and effort have you invested in arranging your living space? Do you decorate/personalize your living space? Do you often fantasize about a perfect home? How important is order and cleanliness of your living space to you? How cozy is your current living environment?
I try to personalize it to some degree, but it's not something I really focus on consistently. My dad seems much more bent towards this mindset though, he's obsessive over order in the living space and when things get out of control (as he sees it) then he flips out. Although my sp/sx mom's and sp/so brother's rooms are generally messes.

- How important is security for you? Do you regularly devote time and effort into securing and stabilizing your life?
This seems like a pretty big E6 trope, so sure.

- Do you carefully manage your savings? Do you often think about your income? What is enough? Is salary a major part in your consideration of a job? Do you follow deals and offers that would allow you to save some money?
At this point in my life where I'm trying to find a job, I'm pretty overwhelmed when it comes to thinking about money matters. Really I just want to get that part of life squared away as fast as possible so I can move on to pursuing my other, more engaging interests.

- Do you take care of your health? Are you up to date in your health care appointments with doctors, dentists, etc? Do you go to the gym or track you caloric intake?
I tried to get into a workout regimin several months ago, but I got too caught up in thinking about body image and ended up finding no internal drive to continue. I haven't seen a doctor or gotten a physical in a long while, but I'm pretty regular about seeing the dentist since I get reminders every six months.

Side note, either my teeth are awful or my dentist is awful. At the moment I have what feels like the start of an infected tooth, despite me brushing and flossing twice day for the past year now (used to just be once a day).



Sexual
- Is it easy to spark your interest? Do you often fell interested, invigorated, impassioned by someone or something (e.g. a hobby, subject, or pursuit)?
Yes, yes, also yes. I have a few select hobbies that I've cultivated over the past several years if not decades, and even today they still excite me.

- Is it easy for you to hone in to that which has sparked your interest? Do you feel like your life is in some way directed by these feelings?
I suppose so. I really can't imagine what direction my life would be taking me in right now were it not for music games.

- Is being attractive to others an important quality for you? Do you easily spot attractions between other people?
I consider myself to have a very honed sense of magnetism with other people. Like I'll get instant "avoid at all cost" vibes from some people, and likewise with "must engage." I find that the latter is much harder to come across, so I try to stick with those who I really click with as much as possible.

- How often do you share your personal experiences and preferences with others in conversation? Do you feel at ease when connecting to someone on emotional/personal basis? Do you feel like you need to disclose some personal information in order to relate to someone?
Yes to all above. Often times I find that just so long as the other person is talking about or sharing something that he's really interested in, even if I don't care for it at all, I'll still go along with it and react with the same level of energy he has towards the thing.

Speaking of which, I remember this one guy I ran into in college outside of some cultural event meeting bullshit. He was some ESXp E3 Sx-primary, and boy howdy can that man talk. He went for nearly an hour non-stop about how he's travelled to twenty countries, been arrested in nine of them, sent off to America by his father with no money and still managed to make ends meet, etc and so on. In the moment, he was super engaged and excited about what he was talking about, and I found myself matching his leven of energy output. But once it got too late and I had to head back home, I realized that I didn't give two shits about anything he said. So it's interesting to get into that Sx feedback loop despite being from completely different backgrounds with totally disparate experiences of the world.

- Do you easily discern emotional stimuli and motivations of others?
I guess. I do find that I respect people more when I can gauge their strong reactions to things.

- Can you easily tell when someone is flirting with you? Do you often flirt? Do people have trouble telling when you are being just friendly and when you are expressing interest in them?
I'm really interested in people so rarely that I don't have enough of a base-line for this question to tell.

- What role does sexuality play in your life? Do you find it easy to openly talk about sexual topics?
Repression like fuckkkkkkkkkk. I have trouble talking about sex because it's really not a part of my life that I've yet to explore in great detail with anybody else; not for lack of trying though, lemme be clear on that. Wish I did have someone for that though.


Social
- Do you seek to come in contact with people? Are you open? Do you strive to become acquainted with and be known to everyone in your group?
Unless there's already some pre-established connection between me and another group, I'll find myself hanging on the fringe of whatever group environment I find myself in. I find myself closed off to others unless someone who already strikes me as being worth engaging with engages first.

- When moving to a new place how important is it for you to make new friends? Do you feel like you have a social support network?
I haven't done much moving in my adult life, but if my first move down to college is of any indication then so long as I have one best friend to hang out with then desire for social support will always come second. This isn't to say that I don't want to have a circle of friends, and I often find that while I neglect that area of my life more often than I should, I end up feeling very rewarded by my interactions with them.

- Do you experience a sense of belonging to a community? Are you engaged with social issues? Are you a member of any organized groups? What role or position do you usually play in groups?
I've felt like I belong to a community only once in my life, and it actually really moved me to know that there's a group of people out there who know who I am and really care about my well-being.

- Do you easily notice when people behave in an inconsiderate, imprudent, discourteous, untactful manner? Does this bother you even if they aren't related to you?
I have my pet peeves in terms of etiquette and tact, but they're more in response to people who uphold the "rules of behavior" too much.

- Are you sensitive to being socially ostracized? Is it important for you to be accepted by your peers? Is it important to you that your partner is acceptable to your friends and family?
It's not something I really ever think about, but I think all people need some sort of acceptance by those they respect and care for.

- Do you engage in discussions of socially relevant topics (e.g. human rights, social contracts, justice and fairness, cultural and religious themes, political systems, recent news and events)?
I gravitate more towards domestic policy discussions, gay marriage being the big one for obvious reasons. But these interests more pertain to personally relevant topics as opposed to social ones.

- Do you follow the news? Do you keep aware of what is happening with your friends and distant relatives, in your community, country, worldwide?
I wish I did, but I find myself losing patience for it quickly. I only really keep track of a few select people and topics that have personal relevance.

[Nomenclature]

Either SX/SO or SX/SP. I'll get back to you on that and explain later.

[squark]

It could also indicate that there is a bias favoring certain instincts and stacking over others, which imo is the most likely explanation. The sp/so and so/sp stackings fall into disfavor due to being portrayed as "cold and impersonal" and quite inaccurately imo since the social instinct has its own kind of warmth and charm. There is pro-sx bias while social instinct is often considered to be shallow, an equivalent of being plugged into the group 'hive mind', so most people end up typing as sx/sp, sp/sx and sx/so stackings and virtually nobody types as so/sp..

Yes. I only voted so/sp because nobody else was going to do it. There's a huge inclination for people to see themselves as sx first or second regardless of their actual stackings, and sometimes I think that so-firsts and so-seconds are MORE likely to think they're sx than some sx types.

[squark]

I will check out the triunebrain link you gave, but I hope someone questioned this theory and sp's supposed connection with money, savings, and long term maintenance & planning.

hmm. ? The main reasons I usually give for why I don't type as sp-last are because I don't overspend, have no trouble managing money, and I'm a private person.

Elaboration, for discussion for those interested:

I've actually considered sp-last as a possibility recently though. sx/sp and sp/sx are often cited as having a "push-pull" quality. Someone recently questioned this in me, asking, "you have the intensity, but when do you ever pull back?" They cited how when I'd street-race I'd run stoplights and stop signs on purpose where I knew nobody else would do it, just to win. There was no reward or incentive for it except being first, and asked, "where's the sp in that?" I've purposely put myself in tricky or dangerous situations just to see if I could get out of them (things like heading into a blizzard with very little gas in my car's tank, or less-dangerous things like taking off across-country with no map, just to see if I could navigate my way to my destination without one) I used to find it amusing to drive like a crazy person to see what it would take to scare my passengers, and have been pulled aside and questioned with much concern in another situation about why I seemed to have no fear of death doing something else.

But. . . I didn't have any fear because I trusted myself, and I wouldn't be inclined to walk into a dangerous situation in which I had no control over what happened. So, it can be weird looking at behavioral traits. I don't care at all about money or security, or food etc - but I eat fairly healthy usually. I like exercise for the energy and strength it gives me - and the fact that it's fun to do. I don't overspend, and I pay all my bills on time. Also, I'm private and generally reserved with people. I'm not inclined to spill my guts to just anyone, and keep much to myself. I even told my mom this afternoon that I generally think "the less other people know, the better."

[willekeurig]

There are a lot of people who haven't voted on this poll and I do think there are a few mistypes. To keep you company this is whom I think is also sp/so - Pa3, mune, glam, jennifer, Kim, CPig, InvisibleJim, labster, FDG, HandiAce, Robyn, Ath, Krig and there are at least half a dozen so/sp's. Overall these are probably more so-lasts online and fewer so-firsts than in general population.

I'd really like to hear who you type as so/sp on here. For some reason so/sp sometimes really difficult to recognize for me irl. There's one person I think could well be so/sp, at least she's so first for sure. How would you go about distinguishing so/sp from so/sx?