NEW SOCIONICS TEST BASED ON INFORMATIONAL ASPECTS

[nondescript]

your ESI self-typing makes sense to me, i don't really have an opinion though. but no matter what your type is, you really do not seem "mellow."

What was that word you had in mind?

[glam]

What was that word you had in mind?

? i'm confused. i wasn't thinking of any other word, only "mellow" and how it doesn't apply to you and ESE, lol

[nondescript]

"mellow" isn't a word that comes to mind when i think of ESE, lol

This means you had something other in mind, but I digress. It's going nowhere fast.

[glam]

This means you had something other in mind, but I digress. It's going nowhere fast.

oh, sorry. words that communicate the opposite of "mellow", such as "energetic", "emotional", "pushy", "loud", etc. are some words that come to mind for ESE.

[Phantom]

Username - Serpent
Self-type - SEE

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[nondescript]

oh, sorry. words that communicate the opposite of "mellow", such as 1."energetic", 2."emotional", 3."pushy", 4."loud", etc. are some words that come to mind for ESE.

1. Can be, but I have a tendency to deflate.
2. Ok, every F type ever, is a given.
3. Pushy? If I want something, I issue a command or something, but I tend to follow the "live and let live maxim". This sounds more Se anyhow.
4. Ok, I am.

[DaftPunk]

Username: DaftPunk

Selftype: Delta ST

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[Narc]

Ni-LIE

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[Galen]

Please change the format...

fuck okay changed, hope I didn't accidentally delete anything because I ain't doing this again

@Galen only reads first post ---> strong p

at least I was conscientious enough to put it in a spoiler tag unlike *some*

[The Exception]

Here's my result from the spreadsheet.

EII like the majority here.
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[Kalinoche buenanoche]

can i have recalc pls???

tx mega

[Mega]

This test only gives you introvert's result, it's evil
@kalinoche, dl the excel spreadsheet, then 1st sheet is input and 2nd sheet is output (results)

and your results give 23% SEI and 30% IEI, all the others are way less than thoses two.

[Pink]

IEI-Fe

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[Muddy]

The file only opens if you have microsoft office which I don't have so can someone please do mine.

Username: muddytextures
Self-type: Alpha NT

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[nondescript]

This test only gives you introvert's result, it's evil
@kalinoche, dl the excel spreadsheet, then 1st sheet is input and 2nd sheet is output (results)

and your results give 23% SEI and 30% IEI, all the others are way less than thoses two.

Because you are one?

How come I got ESE with like 20% then?

[nondescript]

The file only opens if you have microsoft office which I don't have so can someone please do mine.

Username: muddytextures
Self-type: Alpha NT

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Sorry, I don't know how to put an excel file or picture. I'm so illiterate. I'll just type the results.

muddy type:

Si 53%
Te 58%
Fi 38%
Se 33%
Ni 33%
Fe 35%
Ti 58%
Ne 73%

I 80%
J 30%

E 20%
P 70%

ILE: 7,11%
SEI: 10,2%
ESE: 1,4%
LII: 12,92%
EIE: 0,71%
LSI: 3,9%
SLE: 3,19%
IEI: 6,31%
SEE: 1,69%
ILI: 13,12%
LIE: 1,17%
ESI: 2,54%
LSE: 2,34%
EII: 8,43%
IEE: 3,77%
SLI: 21,19%

I've never seen such strange results...73% Ne and SLI as the leading type. Ok...

[Phantom]

Username - Serpent
Self-type - SEE

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Can someone calculate this?

[glam]

@Simo @Galen @Pink @Serpent @DaftPunk @Narc


looks like @Kore has stopped posting the charts. the spreadsheet is available now to calculate your own results (download it here). just copy and paste your answers into it.

the OP has been edited to include the link to the spreadsheet (in English or Russian). if you're not able to open the file, i can post your results if Kore doesn't want to do it anymore.

[Muddy]

Sorry, I don't know how to put an excel file or picture. I'm so illiterate. I'll just type the results.

muddy type:

Si 53%
Te 58%
Fi 38%
Se 33%
Ni 33%
Fe 35%
Ti 58%
Ne 73%

I 80%
J 30%

E 20%
P 70%

ILE: 7,11%
SEI: 10,2%
ESE: 1,4%
LII: 12,92%
EIE: 0,71%
LSI: 3,9%
SLE: 3,19%
IEI: 6,31%
SEE: 1,69%
ILI: 13,12%
LIE: 1,17%
ESI: 2,54%
LSE: 2,34%
EII: 8,43%
IEE: 3,77%
SLI: 21,19%

I've never seen such strange results...73% Ne and SLI as the leading type. Ok...

You and @Aylen have my thanks.


So yeah..... its no wonder why I'm having a little difficulty narrowing down my type. Completely mixed results and yet it all seem accurate. Identify strongly with introversion, strongly as perceiver , strongly with intuition, strongly with logic, which adds up to ILI/INTp (which is what I thought I was originally) but yet I identify much more with alpha and its information elements. Right now it looks like I'm either I'm a very irrational LII, a very introverted ILE, a very intuitive SLI or an ILI who defected to alpha.

[glam]

@Muddytextures oh i had calculated your charts before i saw nondescript had already posted them for you... oh well here they are

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[Phantom]

@Simo @Galen @Pink @Serpent @DaftPunk @Narc


looks like @Kore has stopped posting the charts. the spreadsheet is available now to calculate your own results (download it here). just copy and paste your answers into it.

the OP has been edited to include the link to the spreadsheet (in English or Russian). if you're not able to open the file, i can post your results if Kore doesn't want to do it anymore.

Don't have Microsoft Office so even if I download it, I can't edit it. Would really appreciate if you calculated it for me.

[Aylen]

I tried again last night and gave up. I am a little sick today though and even less focused. I did the spreadsheet. It was easy but I did it quickly and used more twos than I probably should. I will do it again when I feel better.

Edit: Update, no longer sick, clear-headed. I made some choices on some of those twos but still balance on j/p but I am also pretty close in MBTI too.

I updated mine and did as Kore suggested. I got rid of a lot of twos. It made some difference but not on j/p. I am curious which questions determine that.

Edit: I suggest not doing these if you're sick, mopey or depressed. Wait until you get through it.

[nondescript]

Username - Serpent
Self-type - SEE

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You wanna know the best thing? I viewed your results today but didn't copy them. Strange I know. Anyhow, here they are in the text format:

IE:

Si 43%
Te 65%
Fi 33%
Se 73%
Ni 28%
Fe 43%
Ti 50%
Ne 50%

I 50%
J 43%
E 50%
P 57%

Aspects table:

ILE 9,31%
SEI 4,83%
ESE 5,29%
LII 4,64%
EIE 2,87%
LSI 8,23%
SLE 13,5%
IEI 3,12%
SEE 7,24%
ILI 5,94%
LIE 4,39%
ESI 5,35%
LSE 8,1%
EII 3,01%
IEE 4,99%
SLI 9,18%

There you go.

[DaftPunk]

Don't have Microsoft Office so even if I download it, I can't edit it. Would really appreciate if you calculated it for me.

Me neither @glam

[marooned]

what about google docs or open office?

[glam]

Don't have Microsoft Office so even if I download it, I can't edit it. Would really appreciate if you calculated it for me.

np!

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[glam]

Me neither @glam

lol aw

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[glam]

what about google docs or open office?

yeah, maybe. i think the file has macros, which won't run in Google Docs, but i'm not sure if the macros are actually required to do the calculating or not. they may just be in there to collect the survey data (username, age, etc.) on the first page of the spreadsheet.

[Myst]

So yeah..... its no wonder why I'm having a little difficulty narrowing down my type. Completely mixed results and yet it all seem accurate. Identify strongly with introversion, strongly as perceiver , strongly with intuition, strongly with logic, which adds up to ILI/INTp (which is what I thought I was originally) but yet I identify much more with alpha and its information elements. Right now it looks like I'm either I'm a very irrational LII, a very introverted ILE, a very intuitive SLI or an ILI who defected to alpha.

This test is just a bunch of adjectives about concrete traits, not about information processing

Anyway of those options you list in this way, the alpha NT ones require fewer assumptions - meaning you are one of those two or you aren't described by the theory

[Myst]

OK so why is everyone still posting all their answers - does Kore still need it for data collection and analysis? I didn't read much past the first page

Anyway my results:

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[marooned]

worry not @Kore. i am all for your data gathering!

[Muddy]

This test is just a bunch of adjectives about concrete traits, not about information processing

Anyway of those options you list in this way, the alpha NT ones require fewer assumptions - meaning you are one of those two or you aren't described by the theory

I agree alpha NT is still the most likely but I identify too strongly as a perciever for LII and too strongly as an introvert for ILE for either of them to make complete sense. If there was an IP alpha NT type we would have a clear winner but unfortunately there is no IP alpha NT type. DCNH subtypes could definitely be influencing this though.

[Persephone]

@Simo @Galen @Pink @Serpent @DaftPunk @Narc


looks like @Kore has stopped posting the charts. the spreadsheet is available now to calculate your own results (download it here). just copy and paste your answers into it.

the OP has been edited to include the link to the spreadsheet (in English or Russian). if you're not able to open the file, i can post your results if Kore doesn't want to do it anymore.

I am just on a business trip. I can still post charts if people want me to, once I am back.

[Persephone]

OK so why is everyone still posting all their answers - does Kore still need it for data collection and analysis? I didn't read much past the first page

Anyway my results:

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Because people want to share their results.
I don't gather data anymore as it's biased now.
People can make fit the test to the wanted result since the spreadsheet is available.
Nondescript's example was very revealing here.

worry not @Kore. i am all for your data gathering!

I don't worry It's just the data I got before the spreadsheet was posted is simply not sufficient.

[Myst]

I agree alpha NT is still the most likely but I identify too strongly as a perciever for LII and too strongly as an introvert for ILE for either of them to make complete sense. If there was an IP alpha NT type we would have a clear winner but unfortunately there is no IP alpha NT type. DCNH subtypes could definitely be influencing this though.

What do you think makes you an Irrational/Perceiver? Just because I recently asked someone to explain why they thought they were an Irrational type and the explanation virtually defined Rationality itself. Not saying you are going to do the same but I'm curious because the devil's clearly in the details.

Because people want to share their results.
I don't gather data anymore as it's biased now.
People can make fit the test to the wanted result since the spreadsheet is available.
Nondescript's example was very revealing here.

Eh, I didn't need the spreadsheet to know how the test worked. Wasn't it obvious to anyone else -after halfway through the test at least- that the adjectives are grouped by IEs and then by I/E and J/P?

In any case if you truly want to conduct an experiment and if you want to use such tests for it, you will need people who have never heard of Socionics yet know themselves well.

[Persephone]

Eh, I didn't need the spreadsheet to know how the test worked. Wasn't it obvious to anyone else -after halfway through the test at least- that the adjectives are grouped by IEs and then by I/E and J/P?

In any case if you truly want to conduct an experiment and if you want to use such tests for it, you will need people who have never heard of Socionics yet know themselves well.

Clap clap, standing ovation.

[nondescript]

Because people want to share their results.
I don't gather data anymore as it's biased now.
People can make fit the test to the wanted result since the spreadsheet is available.
Nondescript's example was very revealing here.


I don't worry It's just the data I got before the spreadsheet was posted is simply not sufficient.

What was revealing? I could also be misinterpreting myself-the common dangers of self typing. Self typing is what I'd recommend the least for a person to try-let others infer meanings and spot things within you. This is especially notable when trying to spot Reinins within you: static / dynamic and positive / negative in particular. In order to spot them, you have to use heavy duty grammatical analysis-a thing that could very well crush you and leave you exhausted. So, why not just leave to others to do that is what I always say.

[nondescript]

What do you think makes you an Irrational/Perceiver? Just because I recently asked someone to explain why they thought they were an Irrational type and the explanation virtually defined Rationality itself. Not saying you are going to do the same but I'm curious because the devil's clearly in the details.




Eh, I didn't need the spreadsheet to know how the test worked. Wasn't it obvious to anyone else -after halfway through the test at least- that the adjectives are grouped by IEs and then by I/E and J/P?

In any case if you truly want to conduct an experiment and if you want to use such tests for it, you will need people who have never heard of Socionics yet know themselves well.

I am like the opposite of the bolded part. I know these systems just fine, but kinda feel like I don't know myself well enough. Often feel like both choices fit etc.

[Muddy]

What do you think makes you an Irrational/Perceiver? Just because I recently asked someone to explain why they thought they were an Irrational type and the explanation virtually defined Rationality itself. Not saying you are going to do the same but I'm curious because the devil's clearly in the details.

Passivity and having a "I don't give a fuck" attitude. I tend to take life for a bowl of cherries and very rarely take things seriously. Where as other people always seem to be worried about getting stuff done I'm more focused on simply sitting back and enjoying things the way they are. I've even come into conflict with heavy j types sometimes for not being serious about my work. I dislike long periods of physical labor, avoid household chores, and procrastinate on just about everything.

[Myst]

I am like the opposite of the bolded part. I know these systems just fine, but kinda feel like I don't know myself well enough. Often feel like both choices fit etc.

Yeah. Do more observation of yourself -and optionally others- while checking the theory -this theory, other theories, other people's observations on you- against that. You will never get anywhere otherwise.

What was revealing? I could also be misinterpreting myself-the common dangers of self typing. Self typing is what I'd recommend the least for a person to try-let others infer meanings and spot things within you. This is especially notable when trying to spot Reinins within you: static / dynamic and positive / negative in particular. In order to spot them, you have to use heavy duty grammatical analysis-a thing that could very well crush you and leave you exhausted. So, why not just leave to others to do that is what I always say.

No, you really need to spot things about yourself. It's ok if you let others do it first but you need to verify yourself. Otherwise you'll just continue bouncing around like you've been doing it for a while

The Reinins are even worse in terms of that, you will not get anywhere with grammatical analysis on them, you have to see your own thought processes that are never fully revealed from these written texts. Some Reinin dichotomies then do make sense to me but yeah, only if I ignore any external stereotyped manifestations and instead focus on the core concepts on how the thinking processes work. Other Reinin dichotomies still don't make sense, the ones where I cannot see such core concepts.

Passivity and having a "I don't give a fuck" attitude. I tend to take life for a bowl of cherries and very rarely take things seriously. Where as other people always seem to be worried about getting stuff done I'm more focused on simply sitting back and enjoying things the way they are. I've even come into conflict with heavy j types sometimes for not being serious about my work. I dislike long periods of physical labor, avoid household chores, and procrastinate on just about everything.

Eh, Irrationality is not about laziness or not taking anything seriously. I recommend you read Jung's concepts on Irrationality and Rationality. One thing's for sure tho', you are no EJ. I don't want to get into stereotypes here but this does sound like some sort of introverted Si valuer, I can't say more than that.