wasn't this already posted in the sp/sx thread?Originally Posted by TJay
nobody has any imagination anymore :|
wasn't this already posted in the sp/sx thread?
nobody has any imagination anymore :|
true, but I did think it also applied to sx/sp, depending on the person's type
Giger comes through as sx-last in his interviews.
They are a bit too countryish for my taste but I can see a lot of sx/sp here.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
belated typing - Matt Shea sx/sp Te-creative
The vibe I got from this was sx/so. Reminded me of what you've written about your sx/so ex, and how he was so explicit about your personal life together made you feel uncomfortable. There is that same excessively open, revelational feeling from this group. Sx/sp's, in contrast, are much more private and low-key about their emotions and preservant of personal boundaries.
As soon as I read this I cringed at the memory of that ex doing that. I even pictured him as the guy in the first video and could see where it could be sx/so. I felt like a voyeur even watching the video. Like I witnessing something I shouldn't have been. hahah I am not sure about the second song because it reminds me of something totally different. I will have to sort what that is but it felt familiar. I have been working on spotting "so" more to see if it matches up with how I imagine "so" to be
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I gave up on time
Just like you said you would
There are tiny cracks of light underneath me
And you say I got it wrong
But I tried hard to uncover them
I have somehow got
Away with everything
Anything you ever did was strictly by design
But you got it wrong
And I'll go anywhere but there
And you had best believe
That you cannot build what I don't need
And I know I need to feel relief
And I know you'll never fold
But I believe nothing that I'm told
And I know I need to feel relief
I know I need to feel released
Take care to tell it just how as it was
Take care to tell on me for the cause
I know I need to feel released
Take care to bury all that you can
Take care to leave a trace of a man
I will show restraint
Just like we said we should
You think I'll apologize for things I left behind
But you got it wrong
And I'm as sane as I ever was
You talk far too much
For someone so unkind
I will wipe the salt off of my skin
And I'll admit that I got it wrong
And there is grey between the lines
Enneagram doesn't exist. It's a pseudo science. Just like MBTI.
I want to be ISTp.
sp/sx
These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other’s condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant’s surface formality. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.
Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.
~~What A Great Post~~
Actually, enneagram is more likely to have the possibility of fitting in with science than socionics does, IF enneagram slightly modifies its descriptions to better reflect Jaak Panksepp's work. He's mapped out 7 emotional systems that all mammals share (and some other types of animals have some of them too). The three aversive emotional systems are anger, fear, and seperation distress. These correspond very nicely: gut/anger, head/fear, and heart/distress. Add in stress reactions of fight, flight, freeze, appease, and you start seeing enneagram types show up. However, again, enneagram would have to modify itself some to better fit the science.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
ooo I like your crazy ideas!
Flight of science
Vroom vroom
I want to be ISTp.
sp/sx
These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other’s condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant’s surface formality. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.
Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.
Jonah - Ssst...Listen - sx/sp Ni/Se
I miss the last chapter in my life
Are you Sx/Sp and want what is depicted in the image?I miss the last chapter in my life
Otherwise I am not sure what you mean.
Want what is depicted? No, had what was depicted....once.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Sounds like IEI sx/sp
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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ZZ Ward - sx/sp ESI? Se-something
the sx/sp ultimate fantasy of homebound domesticity
wait, how is sx/sp is associated with domesticity? if anything i would think it's associated with a stack like sp/so, or at least sp primary. domestic life and related concerns seem at odds with sx/sp priorities :/
'I am endlessly yearning
To be in Changan.
...Insects hum of autumn by the gold brim of the well;
A thin frost glistens like little mirrors on my cold mat;
The high lantern flickers; and. deeper grows my longing.
I lift the shade and, with many a sigh, gaze upon the moon,
Single as a flower, centred from the clouds.
Above, I see the blueness and deepness of sky.
Below, I see the greenness and the restlessness of water....
Heaven is high, earth wide; bitter between them flies my sorrow.
Can I dream through the gateway, over the mountain?
Endless longing
Breaks my heart.'
Li Bai - Poet
There's much more of a domestic flare to sx/sps than a lot of people on here give credit. Just because the sx crap takes priority doesn't mean the domestic side gets thrown out completely.
The comment was hyperbolic for jokez
I take my wine jug out among the flowers
to drink alone, without friends.
I raise my cup to entice the moon.
That, and my shadow, makes us three.
But the moon doesn't drink,
and my shadow silently follows.
I will travel with moon and shadow,
happy to the end of spring.
When I sing, the moon dances.
When I dance, my shadow dances, too.
We share life's joys when sober.
Drunk, each goes a separate way.
Constant friends, although we wander,
we'll meet again in the Milky Way.
Li T'ai-po
So/Sp not Sx/Sp
Forgive me if I'm really off, I haven't delved deep into figuring out what content goes with what instinct stackings quite yet.
Mind an explanation? Are you talking about the guy in the video, the people who find it appealing or the overall theme of the video? You might argue the guy is doing it for social acclaim, or the "meme-ness" of it, but I don't really see how enjoying watching a guy shooting flamethrowers around for the hell of it of it is Sx-last. He seems about as thrill seeking as you can get.
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Sx is much more of a internal obsession vs this sort of outward showmanship, there is a characteristic of Sx/Sp that manifest in brooding nature rather than some overt showmanship of the Sx/So. However this individual both lack the sort of brooding and intensity in his actions, it's more a material sort of showmanship. The videos he makes are quite dull and repetitive and play on material posessions(guns) and social power(guns). Gun imagery as a substitute phallus and rather than being sexual in nature, are channeling of that into a material realm. Often So/Sp will use guns as a ward against hostility, as well as against social pressures they see. This fixation on the social and the use of guns to preserve themselves is very much in the So/Sp domain.
I'm not sure if Sx/Sp are super thrill seeking either, they are characterized by obsessions which are often blocked, thus resorting to things like self-medication to deal with.
This guy shoots stationary targets and plays with guns, it's a very material interaction with sexual substitutes. Does it really qualify as thrill-seeking, does thrill seeking for Sx/Sp actually happen all that often due to Sp blocking Sx.
The most obvious message his videos send and use are two fold.
1. Guns are "fun"
2. Guns are powerful and can destroy shit and make me powerful and I have them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxA7oKQFYk
I've always thought Kobe is Sx/Sp, he is very much a intense obsessive. He probably knows more about basketball than most people and works privately constantly perfecting his game. He's not very good with making social friends with his co-workers and his workout intensity often messes his teammates up.
He's one of the most intense competitors in basketball and this is something that all his teammates competitor, press talk about. But in many ways in his regular life this intensity is blocked.
Thrill-seekingness != being sx. Any type can like roller coasters
yea i wouldn't think domestic side is thrown out completely (sx/sp are still sp-secondary), but i was thrown off by your hyperbolic "ultimate fantasy" comment, as if it's some kind of defining feature of this stacking. it would be very different from how i view sx/sp, and in my own case, it's one of the reasons i do not type myself sx/sp, because having a comfortable home, domestic security, etc. is really important to me.
If there is a "domestic" fantasy for a Sx/Sp, it is a environment that is a haven for their obsessions.
The arms-length reach for one's obsessions would be valuable for a Sx/Sp but something like playing house would probably be prioritized below the fixations.
I have been quick to sacrifice those things in the clutches of my first instinct. I could say I have taken them for granted. I am trying to be more appreciative of the these things because in the past I have walked away from everything I owned to satisfy first instinct, without regret. There were also periods of domestic bliss during that time. I think that is why I am better suited with an sp/sx type to help me stay grounded. I have longer periods of domesticity with an sp/sx than any sx first. For me getting into romantic relationships with another sx first is like playing with fire. My instinct, I think, is stereotypical in the sense that I would give everything up for that intense one on one connection with another human being (when it is reciprocated) even if it means going down in flames.
Rising like a phoenix from the ashes is a main theme for me.
There is a sense of urgency and it can be stressful. Even my Ni could not stop me from pursing things I knew would not end well. Usually in the name of love. I saw it coming and felt almost powerless to alter the outcome. I have a better handle on things now but, damn...
I imagine it just looked irresponsible to those witnessing but it was a matter of priorities for me. I have also grown up a lot and that makes a difference. Those who have known me my whole life just validate that I was probably born sx first. The stories they tell.
Disclaimer: This is just my experience of being sx first. I am not speaking for others who self type the same as me but in conversations with other sx first there are a lot of similarities even if they were not as extreme as me.
Edit: I do not like rollercoasters and I refuse to hold a gun because it gives me very bad vibes to do so, even when not loaded. I am fine with knives though.
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I would say sx/sp types find their "thrill seeking" thru very specific and personal obsessions and outside of those domains, things can be very scary. This is where the sp kicks in and blocks off the sx and nullifies expression. The bottling up of the Sx impulses sort of redirects into their tolerable fixations amplifying the expression.Edit: I do not like rollercoasters and I refuse to hold a gun because it gives me very bad vibes to do so, even when not loaded. I am fine with knives though.
While Sx/so types are maximalist thrill seekers with a penchant for exhibitionism and fancy. Sx/sp in comparison are cloistered obsessives who yearns for a impossible wholeness, striving for completion yet often stymied by their Sp reactiveness. This makes them deeply self-absorbed and in turn individualistic while at the same time seeking to connect with something that catches them in its grasp, yet always imperfectly.
There's definitely a certain fetishistic fascination with people connecting their existential angst w/ the average sx/sp and it's really unsettling because nobody does anything similar with other stackings.
LOL ^ you are too focused on how other people of this stacking experience it. Must be some kind of angst.
Everything about Enigma feels sx/sp to me, me, me.
"In your hands, I am numb,
as I write words in color,
like flames beneath the sea,
pull me in,
feel deeper than my skin,
so we may blossom,
and ignite again..."
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@everybody posting in this thread
latest sx/sp find - Dan Cox from seasons 2 of 'Bachelor in Paradise' (LSI-Se 5w6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZZa2VZCxkk
The population of Sx or Sp doms on this forum is probably way greater than So doms. Sx doms are the most likely to dive deeply into personality theories as these are very self-absorbed identity driven individuals, who consequently lack a very concrete identity. That would aptly describe almost all long time personality typology participants. The lack of activity in say so stackings is likely due to very low population of those stacks vs Sx or Sp doms. The normal population of Sp/Sx and Sx/Sp might be 33% but I think it's more likely double that here or even more. It would be no suprise for many sp/sx to self-type sx/sp either. However there is a difference.
Sp/Sx is the stacking that relates the most to fetishistic obsession, not Sx/Sp. And often these obsessions are consuming. The contra-flow fetishism and obsession lead them into very outsider activities which challenge/ignore the social dynamic of their environment.
Sx/Sp does deal with obsession but these obsessions are unfulfilling, but consequently this often leads them to engage socially in order to to find something new and fulfilling, often without success.
Sx/Sp is the seeker in this fashion and their seeking is socially integrative, they are a syn flow stacking.
Consequently the high population of these stacking will result in more expression with these two stackings I think sp/sx, sp/so gets it's share of activity as well. However sx/sp is pretty conflicted/conflict creating stacking as well.
You won't see much conflict in sp/so stacking simply due to the low conflict nature of that stacking. The main reason this stacking has more conflict is this stacking has more conflict. It gets just slightly more activity vs Sp/sx or sp/so.
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