Martin Heidegger

[Tallmo]

Yeah.. I agree.

but he VI as SEI >,< look at his mouth

do u look like Heidegger somehow?

I'm not into VI. I look at the whole person and compare with my impressions of types I know. And what he says.

Anyway, I'm sticking with LII, especially after seeing this video. Soft but definite in his speaking. Abstract but to the point.

I think I might look a little like Heidegger. But not in a striking way.

[WinnieW]

I'm not into VI. I look at the whole person and compare with my impressions of types I know. And what he says.

I do the same.

Question not specifically directed to you, Tallmo.
Is there enough empirical evidence that the shape of a face has a significant correlation to the socionics type of a person?
Ok, character traits and physiocal attributes are both dependend on the human genom, but is there a correlation between of them?

[strrrng]

That's actually not really a new idea. Nietzsche said reality is beyond words in very explicit terms, and he wasn't even the first German philosopher to say that, much less the first non-New-Ager. "New Age" is something else (hint: it has to do with the idea of a "new age"). There's a lot of actual mysticism in German thought (and it did kind of directly lead to New Age over time) but the connotations can be tinged with other things, like how apparently some people think that whenever I reference subjectivity that means there has to be more than one truth even though I don't think that and that doesn't necessarily follow. It's just what people are used to hearing so they assume that and argue with strawmen. Ditto for all this stuff.

This is pretty much why I think Heidegger's efforts—in light of the fact that one could only expect so much from the 20th century—were a step forward.

[ooo]

Is there enough empirical evidence that the shape of a face has a significant correlation to the socionics type of a person?
Ok, character traits and physiocal attributes are both dependend on the human genom, but is there a correlation between of them?

No, there's not. And it could be confusing to favor that method over "knowing someone more in detail", as with a questionnaire. But perhaps that's even something related to what method one person finds more appropriate to himself... Sensors should be better at noticing physical, real, details, in people too. So maybe they'd find that typing by physiognomy is easier, and the questionnaire fits better to other approaches...

anyway, yes, the influences are many and some of them are more individual than the others

How much of your personality is genetic?

[Jake]

SLI

[Makuta]

ILI

[Disturbed]

He was an LSI-Se. He looks quite similar to LSI-Se I know and he was more original and logically consistent and more powerful and more independent in his thinking than the Ti type tends to be.

Hannah Arendt criticized Eichmann who was the Ti type, but she seemed to really love Heidegger who was the Se type. The Ti type was more likely to be in bureaucracy, especially back then. ******'s father was the Ti type and ****** probably would've turned out better had his father been the Se type and the Se type would've been more likely to have respected his wishes to become an artist more rather than trying to make his son a bureaucrat, although Walt Disney's father (LSI-Se) didn't really respect his son's wishes to become an artist (from what I read anyway) he also didn't try to plan his career path out from when he was born plus Walt Disney was an ILE-Ti whereas ****** was an EIE-Ni and ILE-Ti always have more appreciation for their parents at the end of their lives (even if the ILE-Ti is about to die first, such as Eric Harris, whose father was an LSI-Se) while EIE-Ni sometimes say "I'll never forgive my mother and I've come to peace with the fact I won't and I'll explain if you want me to".

Se type parents are less restrictive, although they can still be strict they're a lot less strict, less quick to punish, and want and encourage their children to be more independent and non-conforming to mediocrity (all compared to the Ti type). The Se type is more gentle in movements and language and speech and appearance and is goofier and less serious and less guarded and more approving of and gets along much better with playful people.

[Dauphin]

He was an LSI-Se. He looks quite similar to LSI-Se I know and he was more original and logically consistent and more powerful and more independent in his thinking than the Ti type tends to be.

Hannah Arendt criticized Eichmann who was the Ti type, but she seemed to really love Heidegger who was the Se type. The Ti type was more likely to be in bureaucracy, especially back then. ******'s father was the Ti type and ****** probably would've turned out better had his father been the Se type and the Se type would've been more likely to have respected his wishes to become an artist more rather than trying to make his son a bureaucrat, although Walt Disney's father (LSI-Se) didn't really respect his son's wishes to become an artist (from what I read anyway) he also didn't try to plan his career path out from when he was born plus Walt Disney was an ILE-Ti whereas ****** was an EIE-Ni and ILE-Ti always have more appreciation for their parents at the end of their lives (even if the ILE-Ti is about to die first, such as Eric Harris, whose father was an LSI-Se) while EIE-Ni sometimes say "I'll never forgive my mother and I've come to peace with the fact I won't and I'll explain if you want me to".

Se type parents are less restrictive, although they can still be strict they're a lot less strict, less quick to punish, and want and encourage their children to be more independent and non-conforming to mediocrity (all compared to the Ti type). The Se type is more gentle in movements and language and speech and appearance and is goofier and less serious and less guarded and more approving of and gets along much better with playful people.

LSI isn't a terrible typing but this is such a schizophrenic method of explaining that typing.

[Disturbed]

LSI isn't a terrible typing

It's a GOOD typing. Sorry. LOL.

but this is such a schizophrenic method of explaining that typing.

Agreed. I didn't explain that typing very well (although everything after "The Ti type was more likely to be in bureaucracy, especially back then." was irrelevant to Heidegger's type, I felt like pointing out those facts and I'm glad I did). Sorry.