He looks like Jason Priestly from Beverly Hills 90210. That’s the SEE look, Italian version.Originally Posted by Suz
awwwwww!!! That's sweet!
I feel like i've known a few other people with that "look" but I just can't place them.
He looks like Jason Priestly from Beverly Hills 90210. That’s the SEE look, Italian version.awwwwww!!! That's sweet!
I feel like i've known a few other people with that "look" but I just can't place them.
...he’s left handed which somehow matters. I am 2.
ESI not SEE
I think he’s ESI-N, so elevated Fi + Ti is what keeps him grounded in a chaotic pop star life. He talks about his faith and during all the time he was was touring ever since he was like 13, he went to church regularly and he’s said many times throughout various interviews that God, worship, and faith were his anchors. I haven’t seen any interviews with Hailey but she’s likely IJ too. She’s consistent with her style and manner of expressing herself similar to JB.
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He was soooo jerk-ish and douche-y in the past haha. But I mean now that I think about it- I would want somebody to forgive me being that way (and I have- but maybe not to Bieber level extremes- but fame does things to people.) and so I think you might be right people should let that go and move on from it.
His music still personally doesn't do anything for me. I can't think of any song of his I like. No offense to him & his fans though or anything. I think maybe socionically speaking the reason I don't like it- is that it feels like he's using Fe in this ingenuine way? Even when FE valuers are being really silly I think we also in a way seriously believe in our own silliness it's like complicated idk. But role-ish Fe from Fi valuing quadras comes across as different. I think what I saw from in interviews he came across as Fi valuing. Chelsea Handler got annoyed at his Fi cuz she's really Fe.
I actually liked him and didn’t find his “douche” phase anything out of the norm of being a teen and growing up. But we’re mirrors so I get where he’s coming from since I actually do get bitchass angry around Fe valuers and egos for longer than... a few minutes. I’m normalizing SEE (Ti+Fi) and I don’t engage with Fe much, as I’m developed closer to being ESI. He grew up in endless Fe spotlight and that likely agitated him and pushed him over the edge several times. But the Se is there which was why he kept his constitution and told everyone else to fuck off lol. I’ve done that a lot growing up and I still say “fuck you” to basically anyone who stands in my way, whether I say it in my head, with my fist, but trust that I’ll push back. That’s the thing about Gamma SFs... they have both the predatory and caring love styles because Se makes them predator but being an SF makes them also care for who they hunt down. Hunting isn’t for the bragging rights unlike how it is for Beta STs. I want who I hunt down to handle my fiery rebelliousness but in return, I’ll love and care for them through hell and back. And I don’t think love is ever rushed for Gamma SF... I think they really are attracted to the lightning fast, intense love rather than slow build ups. That’s how I respond anyway, cuz if it’s not instant, I don’t care.
LOL yeah Fi too stronk, Se too stronk at the same time. That combo creates some problems when the Se senses threats. Yeah... I believe you’re astute about that with Fe egos vs Fi egos thing. I’m the same way as him, even though I have no fame to speak of. I’m actually more intolerant of being on camera and get irate under others’ watchful eyes. I mean, I’ve done some assholey things as reactions to this because I felt like others were trying to assert themselves above me and I wanted to make sure they understood that I’ll flip the tables on them when I want to. I don’t make threats but sometimes I surprise myself at what I’ve done and what I’m capable of because I think I’m squeaky clean.
I thought of C for him but N fits because he finishes what he starts. He’s very prolific. He has distance and terminality.
common subtype for artisans aka actors, singers, artists, criminals, weirdos, etc.
Justin Bieber - ENFJ Hamlet
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After taking classes with G, much of this got clarified. I think JB exhibit too much F (Se) to have it be only utilized in close/private sphere. He’s realistically SEE, distant subtype; probably N with focus on R (Fi) function accentuation. He uses control S (Si) when under conflict/contention so he remains calm but authoritative with the way he handles it. He’s very restless and always on the move. ESI is an S (Si) type and only utilize F to a limited degree (they have F- like SLE) mainly for the purposes of damage control and pushing/purging whoever or whatever they don’t like out of their lives. ESI do not handle fame for any amount of length or endurance (endurance is F+ and they have F-).
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IEI
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Sei-fe..
SEI-Si 100%
Yeah I think some of Selena Gomez’s songs sound like they could be about a look-a-like relationship with an SEI..I relate to them a lot.
I have this feeling he’s SEE from a more distant & shallow perspective, but I’m going to have to go back and see it it fits. Stereotypically he doesn’t scream SEI to me though, but Idk that much about him tbh. What makes you guys think SEI?
Ni - Se quadra negativist F type.
I'll go with EIE. Introvert subtype
SEE
Socionics is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have, but I have it.
I can't click “like” on peoples posts due to the poor functionality of the site on my end. Just know that if you quoted me and were nice to me that I’m psychically sending you a like from my heart.
maybe LIE
SF club or Fe-IEI. He makes insanely normie, feel good fuckboy music
Typical annoying person..
Have been rethinking about his type. He seem doesn’t has Gamma SF sharpness. Still think he’s a negativist.
I voted SLE. He's an asshole. He puts up this act for popularity.
He’s SEI-si but he acts more like SEI-fe. He got very lucky meeting his wife. Selena was a good role model.
His wife's lucky, not the other way around.
Watched some of his talking video. Fe value sign now seem pretty clear. I’m being convinced by the SEI typing now
He’s some J type and I need to watch some interviews for the rest
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
him and Hailey are annoyingly happy- classic happy SEI/ILE couple
Watch this interview
There is zero Fe here and even once he shuts the audience down when they applaud him
https://youtu.be/J-hDHPH7N_A
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Selena Gomez ravels in the audience response more than him
He is so restrained and serious as can be
https://youtu.be/Z7pY2Wp5Vew
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
But SEI can be really restrained (also he is sweet in that interview)
I can tell the vibe- for some reason I don’t fancy SEI-si. Only SEI-fe, with Bieber it’s not there even if they are cool and hot lol
Not rude like that
SEI just are passive or calm not serious like that
Did you watch the interviews?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I watched some of the first one with Ellen- I thought he seemed polite (more polite than I’ve seen..?)
But also SEI can be rude seeming..not all but some kind of glare if they don’t want to talk. Maybe lookalike thing lol
and can be firm with tone of voice if wanting to change topic/stop talking
it kinda makes me jump out my skin but also I like it LOL
also he mentions the ice plunge..my SEI-si pal does that…give away!
Historic moment: Bieber meets world sauna champion Vladas Jokubauskas. Bieber said he had never experienced this before.
Bieber actually looks a lot like my highschool bff's brother. He might be SEI. Miss Ducki was quite feisty too.
I might try to listen to his music today- force the happiness! ahh
I guess
I’m trying to compare him to this SEI
https://youtube.com/shorts/66w7ZGvEKvU?feature=share
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I was thinking rhi rhi might be SEE, but i have considered SEI for her. She is effortlessly cool like my SEE-se sis..but she comes across more SEI like than most SEEs, if she is..Very relaxed like an SEI..yet poised, like a confident SEE. Her attitudes seem SEE- knows her own mind, doesn’t care what people think.
I’m near enough certain she is SEE
this is the kind of SEI you’re thinking of- he is popular in the UK atm. I guess that softness can be to do with accent or where they’re from.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZo21hCK92k
I once briefly dated an SEI from up North…his voice was like something from a literary novel.
Last edited by Bethanyclaire; 02-23-2023 at 09:19 PM.
I think Justin's SEE
'Cause if you like the way you look that much
Oh, baby, you should go and love yourself
And if you think that I'm still holdin' on to somethin'
You should go and love yourself'
mean yet heart breakingly true lyrics
the lad is SEI
Also the song is sad and it’s ironic because he clearly is heart broken, the sad melody, telling him self he isn’t..cute SEI
Last edited by Bethanyclaire; 04-21-2023 at 07:15 PM.
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