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    Question SocionyTube

    Discovered a Youtube channel by an ESI/LIE dual couple where they type celebs and give Socionics input.

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    What's your opinion? Idk what to think about their methods. Are they good, not sufficient, useful, what's going on?

    Just an example.




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    OKish. for example is adjusted to fit into being unique. This is not necessarily true. It's just its own peculiarity which misses lots of tangibly creative things from senses perspective. Lot's of SEIs for example are freakishly creative people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    OKish. for example is adjusted to fit into being unique. This is not necessarily true. It's just its own peculiarity which misses lots of tangibly creative things from senses perspective. Lot's of SEIs for example are freakishly creative people.
    I thought it was more of a confusion with Gaga's enneagram 4-ness but true, that as well

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    Their descriptions of the IM elements seemed decent from the few that I watched. Their typings though, it seems like they are just making them based on watching a single video. Not very responsible. I do like the vocabulary approach but if you rely on it solely it's easy to lose the broader picture.

    Previously they were claiming to not be experts so they may be getting the typings from someone else and then trying to justify them. I'm also highly skeptical of their self-typings to say the least.

    As for the point about "wanting to go my own way" -- this is not an Ne motivation, it's Fe with Se. Wanting to be different for the sake of being different is not Ne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    OKish. for example is adjusted to fit into being unique. This is not necessarily true. It's just its own peculiarity which misses lots of tangibly creative things from senses perspective. Lot's of SEIs for example are freakishly creative people.
    Yes, a good deal of creativity actually has to do with and not in my opinion.

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    I noticed that as well, you pinpointed it. One video is not enough, biography work is missing. Their IEs seem proper but their quadra descriptions are a little meh, yeah they have the disclaimer of not being too theory-conscious but still.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I'm also highly skeptical of their self-typings to say the least.
    What do you type them as? What I noticed is that Anna is likely quite mistyped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    What do you type them as? What I noticed is that Anna is likely quite mistyped.
    I don't have one particular type in mind but she seems awfully scatterbrained for an LIE. He reprimands her in one video for essentially making up information. I think that is suggestive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I noticed that as well, you pinpointed it. One video is not enough, biography work is missing. Their IEs seem proper but their quadra descriptions are a little meh, yeah they have the disclaimer of not being too theory-conscious but still.
    Alpha looks bit off. Relationally, I think alphas are not into upkeep but you want to be OK with everyone. So I don't know. It is not about being fierce we just made a deal or something. Familiar people are easier to deal with and be OK with. Career wise it is not about prestige but having a deep interests where to invest your time.
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    Lady Gaga was promoting her new album about her dead aunt in that interview which is why there's a lot of Fi sentiment in it.

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    I can't watch them. The girl is not LIE, I repeat...NOT LIE. The guy might be ESI like they say, but I had an inclination towards LII (or LSI) at first.

    They might be semi-duals, ESE & LSI.

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    My first impression is that he might be LII (I agree with @tempest) and she seems like a feeler. Again, as tempest says, ESE is a possibility since, while I don't have much experience with that type, what experience I do have is that ESE's are very aware of other people and are concerned with their well-being (ethics).

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    I'm confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste View Post
    I'm confused
    About what in particular or just everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    My first impression is that he might be LII (I agree with @tempest) and she seems like a feeler. Again, as tempest says, ESE is a possibility since, while I don't have much experience with that type, what experience I do have is that ESE's are very aware of other people and are concerned with their well-being (ethics).
    I agree that he is Ti-base. Anna as Ti suggestive also makes sense, the longer he talks and gets into some explanations the more she seems to compliment him. In one video she said "Oh! You're really smart!" after one of his monologues which struck me as kinda odd given their long aquaintance (that's my perspective).

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    Oh, they had revealed their types. Yes, they do not seem very gamma at all. Maybe being a rational pair confuses them and makes gamma more alluring. You kind of see the extinguisher side as something you could do.

    Delta description is off as well. Deltas tend to identify with certain life style/values and therefore education and stuff like that varies a lot they seem to get sticked with it which is just their value stuff. I'm a hobo and I'll always be a hobo is a possibility among them.
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    Blah I don't like the focus on celebrities though. Real people are so much more interesting and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post
    Blah I don't like the focus on celebrities though. Real people are so much more interesting and shit.
    I think they get typed because everybody knows and relates to some extent. As in having benchmarks, which is also the principle of having VIPs in the first place.
    Also, celebs were once real normal people, too. Both are interesting

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    They've been updating:


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    I like their videos, there are some inaccuracies, but overall interesting content and they seem pleasant.
    Hey, feel free to PM me with any opinions about my type

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    The channel was active earlier this year! Pretty good analysis I think


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Discovered a Youtube channel by an ESI/LIE dual couple where they type celebs and give Socionics input.

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    What's your opinion? Idk what to think about their methods. Are they good, not sufficient, useful, what's going on?

    Just an example.



    These are just what I call a couple of youtube cluckers.

    Their typings aren't based in reality....some might come out right, others wrong. End of the day these people are living in fantasy land because they have not presented any VI templates to back their typings up with.

    There is no way to do a valid VI breakdown/template for each socionics type and have Drake come out SLE. Impossible.

    A house without a foundation is a castle in the sky and that's all their building in so far as socionics goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Discovered a Youtube channel by an ESI/LIE dual couple where they type celebs and give Socionics input.

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    What's your opinion? Idk what to think about their methods. Are they good, not sufficient, useful, what's going on?

    Just an example.
    I was pleasantly surprised with what I saw from these guys. There were subjects that I already had conclusions about, and they reached the same verdict (Drake SEE, Steve Jobs LIE).

    Their methods aren't perfect, but are on the right track. It seems their approach is to first identify strong/weak functions, followed by quadra values, I/E, and rationality/irrationality. This is fine as far as it goes, but the problem is that some of these traits are difficult to tease apart from a single video / interview source material. More advanced and rigorous methods are needed to really get some good accuracy, in my view.

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    It's interesting the degree of influence of wrong transcription MBTI->Socionics in that he being SEI mistypes himself as ESI.
    Many English talkes at 1st are typed by MBTI - by dichotomies. And then some of them somewhere read an idiocy about J/P switch and think nonsense about own types.

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    I wonder what happened to the girl..

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