Your typing of forum members

[Braingel]

I don't like money, for I see its evil.. I would wish one day humanity attains a place of being able responsibly exchange energy; pay with reciprocity, but realize that only can exist in Utopia, until far down the line, humanity evolves into its spirit and marries spirit with mind, and when that will be, clinical psychologically is to drastically change as well.

[Marep]

Look at how society is structured, and look at what society values and disparages at a majority. Not everything needs a source. And with Socionics not being a science, there will not be as many stats concerning of such. Plus, if society was mostly beta, it would look a lot different..

OK... But supposing it's true (which I doubt), what is that makes you think Betas are less common than Alphas, despite both devaluing Te?

[Braingel]

Money needs remain until humanity can accept its soul and mature from its acceptance and infusion into one, its mind.

[Braingel]

OK... But supposing it's true (which I doubt), what is that makes you think Betas are less common than Alphas, despite both devaluing Te?

Si/Ne is more accepted by society. Ni is lesser prevalent, than is Ne and Si. This can be seen in how the educational system neuters Ni, and builds Si/Ne thinking. All you have do is look around you at how things are built, which if you do not live in America, China or Germany, it may be harder see. But such nations are the most populated, especially China. I am American my own self.

You also look at the values endowed in society. And ones that are disparaged. It always has been, in most cultures in recent time, that it is inappropriate to express and bring forth, emotion. That is a beta value. This especially gives harder timer to emotional males, and it is no wonder why many are left to the LGBTQ, because society rejects their masculinity for being more emotional. it abuses them, outright of them, rejects.

[Braingel]

If more beta values instilled, the society that is primarily gamma and delta, would overthrow. Se will give more force and follow through than that of Si, to overthrow, Si more valuing routine and comfort, which overthrowing requires stepping outside of one's comfortable, especially if an Si type.

[Braingel]

Also look at how a beta president (Donald trump) was disparaged. He definitely was inappropriate in ways of many, yet no good averted him on. he was demonized, and he was all beta. And most of society, even ones who had initially for Trump voted, detested of him.

[Braingel]

Your Ni is seventh slot, so you are not as accustomed to looking through an Ni lens and seek to expand with your Ne. All you need do is look and evaluate the trends and to see how society is working now and with what primarily values. You ignoring Fe, may also make it harder see what is more collectively valued, as you more so avert on those immediate around you in your Fi circle.

[chriscorey]

Also look at how a beta president (Donald trump) was disparaged. He definitely was inappropriate in ways of many, yet no good averted him on. he was demonized, and he was all beta. And most of society, even ones who had initially for Trump voted, detested of him.

You base your logic on guess work. You can't even be positive Donald Trump is beta. I don't think he is.

[Braingel]

You base your logic on guess work. You can't even be positive Donald Trump is beta. I don't think he is.

It is likely he is an SLE, but SEE is alternative. He is more concerned with expressing himself and demonstrates Fi PolR very clearly, with his being unable read boundaries and offending people, not caring who they are and their relation to him.

[Braingel]

he would be SLE-Se and an 8w7Sx.. SEE just is lesser likely, given his Fi PoLR is so blatant.

[Braingel]

It is his PolR Fi (and of course his Se base and HA Fe which yearns expression and assertion), that resulted in him to ruin his self-image, and failing recognize how his actions and word will affect of others, and not reading the distance between those well, in his office.

[Braingel]

An SEE would not as likely tarnish their image to degree he had.

[chriscorey]

It is likely he is an SLE, but SEE is alternative. He is more concerned with expressing himself and demonstrates Fi PolR very clearly, with his being unable read boundaries and offending people, not caring who they are and their relation to him.

I think reads boundaries fine and knows exactly what hes doing... His supporters stormed the capital. He doesn't fool me.

[Braingel]

His boundaries with his daughter also are poor.. And he treats her more as a person at bar than daughter.. This of course can also be narcissism, but to do that in eye of publicity when a narc wants good image, contradicts.

[chriscorey]

His boundaries with his daughter also are poor.. And he treats her more as a person at bar than daughter.. This of course can also be narcissism, but to do that in eye of publicity when a narc wants good image, contradicts.

He's probably a narcissist and can you show me when and how he treats his daughter like that. Then go inside his head and explain to me exactly what his motivations are for treating her that way.

[Aster]

I like money because I can spend it to buy the things I want lol

no good at making it, but expert level at spending it

[InterPrizeWes]

I like money because I can spend it to buy the things I want lol

no good at making it, but expert level at spending it

Lol the feeling of liberty and independence with the limitless coin-purse of overflowing riches I could see as amazing or empowered, but frankly, as Braingel says, society would be better if We could let go of mundane survival, and harmoniously cooperate in a Zen of compassion and morality of the highest caliber. As farfetched and flighty as it may sound, it starts with forging the theoretical blueprint of how society could be and should be, so then, in some far out vista, whether with the return of God, the spirit world, or any other extreme terrain, the Prophecy is fulfilled.

Having the pixie dust belief in the sacred and universal could go a long ways, at least for Imagination, where how we feel, think, conjecture, paint, illustrate, all of that reengineers the next frontiers.

[InterPrizeWes]

Still, an endless picking and choosing game of taste and desire with the roulette wheel could be fun!!*

[DEAD]

You base your logic on guess work. You can't even be positive Donald Trump is beta. I don't think he is.

Isn’t all of typology guess work anyway? We’re all assuming that people are certain types. Even with the best proof, it’s still a best fit/guess based on the theory.

[chriscorey]

Isn’t all of typology guess work anyway? We’re all assuming that people are certain types. Even with the best proof, it’s still a best fit/guess based on the theory.

Which is why I wouldn't make blanket statements claiming one type suffers more from depression than another. With that line of thinking, I can just say anything I want and then claim it's the best guess according to the theory. Where do you draw the line? How many betas are there that suffer from depression compared to other types who suffer from depression? Those are real missing numbers even if you are using the theory.

[Braingel]

No stats, but look at public celebrities who have of their life, taken-- Ian Curtis, Kurt Cobain, River Pheonix, Chester Benington, Avicci, and murder suicides; Adam Lanza and Dylan Kleboid.. All are IEI.

You do not as much hear of EII and LII suicides, though of course, they will happen, as any type can of their life take, given right circumstance-- eventful or of mental state.

Then look at the celebrities who appear most suffer-- with depression and substance abuse; Fiona Apple, Martin Gore, Roland Orzabal... John Steinbeck, Julia Cameron... Michelle Pfiefer. The leader of Bring me the Horizon (Olie something).. The Olsen sisters.. Virginia Wolfe. They all too, are IEI's..

I think Amanda Todd would be another example, by the way.. She seems IEI So4

[qaz00]

I think Amanda Todd would be another example, by the way.. She seems IEI So4

Hell no, I don't see any Ni. ESE-Fe? SEI-Fe? SEE-Fi? IEE-Fi? One of these by VI definitely, hard to tell due to young age and I don't feel like looking into her deeper.

[Braingel]

Hell no, I don't see any Ni. ESE-Fe? SEI-Fe? SEE-Fi? IEE-Fi? One of these by VI definitely, hard to tell due to young age and I don't feel like looking into her deeper.

I am not going by VI for her.. I am going by how she processed information and her values.

[Braingel]

You said it yourself: She is too young to even accurately see with VI. Matter of fact, VI is said to have best accuracy by mid 20's

[Braingel]

You said it yourself: She is too young to even accurately see with VI. Matter of fact, VI is said to have best accuracy by mid 20's

Which this also may be why some people think I look EIE more than IEI, since I am young.. But some people still see me as IEI.. Your body is not fully grown even, until mid 20's, it is not just your brain.. It is hormones, it is muscle mass and certain bones.. Even eye and hair color can change a bit (a few shades).

[qaz00]

[Braingel]

I mean I really am not an EIE.. it is understandable of why others think it initially, given my subtype, but.. there are major issues with EIE as a typing as for me..

First thing people who met me in person realized is that I am not extroverted at all..
(I cannot upload screenshot, as it is too big to upload, and windows 7 has no snipping tool).


Then there come major issues in general with it as a typing for me-- Si PolR, HA Se, 1d Ti, ignoring Fi... Process dichotomy. SEI supervisor over LIE.

[Aster]

Beautiful Sky- EIE>EII
Subteigh- kind been thinking maybe ILI lately.
FDG- LIE?
Ashlesha- ESI
Park- LSI or SLI
Sol- Beta ST, maybe SLE
BanD- Beta NF def, but maybe EIE-H
Aylen-IEI
Adam Strange- LXE
Chae-EIE
the hotel ambush- LII-N
inumbra- IEI-H
Minde- EII
Golden-EIE
Kalinoche- Si/Ne (delta?)
Eliza Thomason- ESE>IEE
Ourionis- Alpha NT
Aleph- ILI-D
Squark- LSI-D
Northstar- SLE-C
flames- EIE def
FreelancePoliceman- alpha Nt (LII?)
Tallmo- I get the feeling base Ni for some reason, but I could be wrong
Muddy- LSI- N
Akira- SLI
Number 9 Large- SLE, maybe SEE
nanashi- IEE
Fay- EIE
End-ILI
Suspria- EIE-C
Lolita-SEE- N
Braingel-EIE
SlytherinPower- mb EIE really not sure
DEAD- SEE (don’t kill me )
Voider -SEE
one- ILI-H or N
pandemic candy- LSI
Vex- Beta NF
MidnightWilderness-IEI
Chakra- LSI- N
Nunki- IEI
MissDucki- SEI-Fe
Poptart- SEI?
Stray Cat- Si/Ne something vibes
AWellArmedCat- IEI
lilac wine- IEI
EIE- EIE duhh
Alomoes- ILI seems the best fit hm
Rebelondeck- LII
The Joker The Fool- IEI
BrightDemonSheep96- ILE- H or C
RaptorWizard - IEI?
necrosebud- ILI -N ? seems base imo

[spaceynyc]

More than Se PoLR? You have statistics on this?

are you sure you're not an Te ego type? You're incessantly asking for proof and statistical data and seem to not be willing to theorize or come to your own logical conclusion. Extraverted Dynamic Logic seems like something you clearly value

[Great]

are you sure you're not an Te ego type? You're incessantly asking for proof and statistical data and seem to not be willing to theorize or come to your own logical conclusion. Extraverted Dynamic Logic seems like something you clearly value

Have you not spoken with an ILE before?

[spaceynyc]

Have you not spoken with an ILE before?

no i've never seen one in my life actually or on the internet or tv

[Great]

no i've never seen one in my life actually or on the internet or tv

Your sarcasm is noted.

[DEAD]

Which is why I wouldn't make blanket statements claiming one type suffers more from depression than another. With that line of thinking, I can just say anything I want and then claim it's the best guess according to the theory. Where do you draw the line? How many betas are there that suffer from depression compared to other types who suffer from depression? Those are real missing numbers even if you are using the theory.

What? I was talking about how the theory and how just typing people is all guess work. I'm not talking about who suffers from depression more. Depression isn't type related at all. It's a medical condition, and anyone can suffer from it.

DEAD- SEE (don’t kill me )

Nah, I'm thinking that a 4D Se or 4D Te type is more likely, based on how I process information.

no i've never seen one in my life actually or on the internet or tv

Don't be a dick.

[ouronis]

Money, aka the intersection of supply and demand, is necessary if I we want to keep our society efficient. Without a reliable, "autonomous"/emergent signal, we are like an ant colony with a dead queen.

[Stray Cat]

Beautiful Sky- EIE>EII
Subteigh- kind been thinking maybe ILI lately.
FDG- LIE?
Ashlesha- ESI
Park- LSI or SLI
Sol- Beta ST, maybe SLE
BanD- Beta NF def, but maybe EIE-H
Aylen-IEI
Adam Strange- LXE
Chae-EIE
the hotel ambush- LII-N
inumbra- IEI-H
Minde- EII
Golden-EIE
Kalinoche- Si/Ne (delta?)
Eliza Thomason- ESE>IEE
Ourionis- Alpha NT
Aleph- ILI-D
Squark- LSI-D
Northstar- SLE-C
flames- EIE def
FreelancePoliceman- alpha Nt (LII?)
Tallmo- I get the feeling base Ni for some reason, but I could be wrong
Muddy- LSI- N
Akira- SLI
Number 9 Large- SLE, maybe SEE
nanashi- IEE
Fay- EIE
End-ILI
Suspria- EIE-C
Lolita-SEE- N
Braingel-EIE
SlytherinPower- mb EIE really not sure
DEAD- SEE (don’t kill me )
Voider -SEE
one- ILI-H or N
pandemic candy- LSI
Vex- Beta NF
MidnightWilderness-IEI
Chakra- LSI- N
Nunki- IEI
MissDucki- SEI-Fe
Poptart- SEI?
Stray Cat- Si/Ne something vibes
AWellArmedCat- IEI
lilac wine- IEI
EIE- EIE duhh
Alomoes- ILI seems the best fit hm
Rebelondeck- LII
The Joker The Fool- IEI
BrightDemonSheep96- ILE- H or C
RaptorWizard - IEI?
necrosebud- ILI -N ? seems base imo

No.

[MidnightWilderness]

[QUOTE=aster;1464431] MidnightWilderness-IEI [/QUOTE]

Midnight Wilderness's full type:

DCNH = Highly likely, SEI-D > SEI-N | Highly unlikely, SEI-C > SEI-H

Contact/Inert = SEI-Fe

Enneagram = 4 with a strong 3 fix, so/sx > sx/so

(ps. I don't follow Socionical definitions of Si, they are largely bs)

[Tallmo]

(ps. I don't follow Socionical definitions of Si, they are largely bs)

Sensory impressions, sensing physiological reactions, body impressiins, comfort sensations. Socionics has a pretty good understanding of Si.

[ContractedCriminalboy]

No.

It's because you have a cat picture. Nothing screams SLI like a cat profile picture.

[Chthonic Daydream]

It's because you have a cat picture. Nothing screams SLI like a cat profile picture.

Meow

[Stray Cat]

It's because you have a cat picture. Nothing screams SLI like a cat profile picture.

Not gonna shit on your theory but its (and online typing, in general) impractical & an unreliable way for someone to type a motherfucker.

My avatar ain't a stray, more like a manipulative homeless parasitic one that uses stupid people