Margaret Thatcher

[Beautiful sky]

@Narc


she''s LSE as officially typed by Gulenko, LIE's are out of touch with reality instead, again socionics isnot MBTI.

gulenko is wrong. She's LIE

[Narc]

@Narc


she''s LSE as officially typed by Gulenko, LIE's are out of touch with reality instead, again socionics isnot MBTI.

Eh, I think LIEs are pretty switched on. Ni base and Ni creative are worlds apart even if LIEs and ILIs look similar on the surface.

[Soupman]

Eh, I think LIEs are pretty switched on. Ni base and Ni creative are worlds apart even if LIEs and ILIs look similar on the surface.

Going with the energomodelm, LIE are actually Ne creative, the only Ni creatives are LII and EII, if you read Gulenko's theory and even test it out with real people its becomes more evident.

[Soupman]

edits: sorry felt a bit defensive

gulenko is wrong. She's LIE

Why can she be LIE when LIE are TeNe, with a rather casual detachment from the everyday world. Thatcher was all power hungry and a control freak, LSE are Se creative. LIE is someone like Issac Newton, who was very abstract and easily displays the Ne creative that is characteristic of LIE. I understand that if you are possibly using the wikisocion version, then the strict adherence to the Quadra values logically ends up meaning that you'd conclude someone like Thatcher to be LIE since the quadra values point to gamma being power hungry and what not.

With the energomodel LIE are people who are
Te base
Ne creative
Fe Role
Se launcher
Ni Demonstrative
Fi Manipulative
Si Break
Ti Parent

This model of socionics breaks the sacred quadra values but it more accurate than the version on wikisocion.

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...iIg1T2kLGKwxfg

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=LIE

[Beautiful sky]

edits: sorry felt a bit defensive


Why can she be LIE when LIE are TeNe, with a rather casual detachment from the everyday world. Thatcher was all power hungry and a control freak, LSE are Se creative. LIE is someone like Issac Newton, who was very abstract and easily displays the Ne creative that is characteristic of LIE. I understand that if you are possibly using the wikisocion version, then the strict adherence to the Quadra values logically ends up meaning that you'd conclude someone like Thatcher to be LIE since the quadra values point to gamma being power hungry and what not.

With the energomodel LIE are people who are
Te base
Ne creative
Fe Role
Se launcher
Ni Demonstrative
Fi Manipulative
Si Break
Ti Parent

This model of socionics breaks the sacred quadra values but it more accurate than the version on wikisocion.

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...iIg1T2kLGKwxfg

http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=LIE

The power hungry and control freak thing comes with every Te base, as specifically stated by Jung; when they tyranny comes out, it's hard for the world to see anything but

[Not A Communist Shill]

probably one of the most difficult people that we've attempted to type.

I agree that:
she is unlikely to be an introvert (LSI is perhaps the only moderate possibility), unlikely to be an ethical type

also: it is difficult to see how she valued , especially in comparison to
it's also difficult to see how she valued - a HA would be more likely
I can't perceive how she would have tolerated well an IEI (not at all well I suspect)...or a SEI to a lesser extent
@Expat considered Denis Thatcher a ESI I think...it is easier to see how she would accept a IJ temperament type or even a rational type.
I think perhaps also a SLE type would be somewhat less unrelenting or at least a little more reactive and less methodological?

[Not A Communist Shill]

[mu4]

LSI

She has the eyes of Stalin and the voice of Marilyn Monroe.

[mikemex]

Obvious LSI. My grandmother was one and she was just the same.

[Disturbed]

ESI-Se. She was very popular which ESI-Se tend to be and ESI-Se are the most logical ethical type. ESI's Fi can often be a fondness for certain systems and policies.

LIE is a bad typing for Thatcher because they're rarely elected leaders.

[Rusal]

A better example of LSI in G.s gallery than say, A. Delon. Because type seems more up and front in her case.





Clearly a structured person that gives much importance to discipline and responsibility and she's always bringing it to light in this interview as the most important part of her childhood. Conversely, an IEI if raised under a strict parent but with an at least acceptable itr, would focus on the books they read or what a good person they were, for example, as the hardening and strengthening of character through truths of edifying nature is not something they would pay much attention to, but it's part of the LSI style of evangelization. In fact, self-possession, her overall presence and style and focus on order and responsibility reminds me of my LSI grandmother.

[Not A Communist Shill]

Yeah I agree with LSI at the moment.