When two ESEs start to talk....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtRDjjukDZE
Kristin Davis and Kelly Ripa. I have no idea who the man is beside Kelly because I don't follow the show but he is largely ignored by the Fe leads.
When two ESEs start to talk....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtRDjjukDZE
Kristin Davis and Kelly Ripa. I have no idea who the man is beside Kelly because I don't follow the show but he is largely ignored by the Fe leads.
Hmmm kinda explains why I don't like the whore. Not that I love every Fe valuer and hate every Fi valuer, but very roughly speaking this is the case lol.
Interesting, many there is something to the DCHN subtypes after all? Those seem very different from other ESEs. Ex the video of Jessica Simpson posted earlier (if she's ESE)
or this girl (would you agree she's ESE?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwYgohxSiSA&t=512s
or Elena Ames (ESE-N) - there's also an ESE-D that you hear talking from time to time in the second half of the video (but no visual of her) and she's much more emotional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiV0kWWZvXM
Taylor Swift is also different from a lot of ESEs but probably still is one although maybe that's just because she comes off as pretty guarded on camera because she's worried about her image.
If these are all just subtypes, I think I've probably typed some ESE subtypes as different types entirely (SEE, LSE) due to their intensity and tendency not to let other people talk.
From the POV of dualization, I definitely prefer ESE's that are more attentive to the other person's emotional response and reacting accordingly, with more silly cuddly cuteness, and more curiosity and a mix of nervous and excited anticipation towards weird behaviour (or anything unusual), and generally a calmer but still uplifting cheerful and charming demeanour that is geared towards putting you at ease as opposed to just bombarding you with non-stop talking. The girl in the first video I posted is probably the closest match to that description that I could find online.
Last edited by Memph; 08-03-2017 at 11:52 PM.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at with "if she's ESE I've probably mistyped some ESEs as LSE or SEE" (bold was meant to say Se?).
My ESE friend does curse a bit but only "oh shit" and "damn". She uses moisturizer day to day, she'll use more makeup for formal events but I think that's it. Also dresses pretty casually, geared towards tasteful but comfortable and suited to the occasion, but "showy" is not really a priority.
I used to type Kim as ESE as well, but after seeing more and more videos of her and the total lack of Fe I've come to realize she's likely an LSE. She does seem to come off as expressionless and stone-faced while leaving some specs of inner warmth, which is congruent with Te ego types, and she seems to be too physically focused than Gamma NT types typically are, so Delta ST it was.
conflictors? :x
My bff in highschool was ESE 3w2 and we were both huge on make up, but she doesnt like to experiment or use bolder looks. she only goes for classics - nude colors on longish nails, smokey eye for evening, nude eyeshadow during the day, only nude lip gloss -she would never wear in trend crazy nail colours or lipsticks or really change her makeup at all even now. The same with her clothes -traditionally preppy. Its like she's kinda stuck in the past and doesnt like to stand out or use imagination beyond beeing pretty, put-together and youthful.
I actually agree ESE's dont tend to curse openly or being vulgar. Not because they're that nice (some can be huge bitches and very catty/gossipy), but I guess that's not something they see as appropriate (for gender roles maybe, since most of them are women). They dont seem to like pure force behind cursing, but go about it more in backstabbing ways (no offense: )
Kim is SEI enneagram 9w1 So/Sp
Jaclyn is ESE-Fe subtype, 3w2 So/Sx. She is an exact carbon copy of one of my childhood best friends, they have the exact same mannerisms, facial expressions, personality etc. it's almost creepy. Also, ESE's, depending on enneagram and other factors, can be quite obnoxious sometimes.