VI my friend's sister
Hey all
This is my new work friend's sister. He hasn't told me much about her (except that she's a vegan) and don't want to seem overly curious (until I know she's at least not opposing quadra haha). Haven't talked to her much just yet to figure out her type myself, but I'm certainly curious. Will talk to her more if I get the opportunity.
Any guesses as to her type?
Thanks!
SLE-Ti
SLE-Ti
First picture looks very ESI to me. Lots of Fi there. I'd definitely go for that.
Second and third pictures look like an SF with very high Si, which would be SEI.
The second picture looks like an SF with Se slightly greater than Si, but it's close. I'd not approach her because I'd assume she's SEI, overall.
The third picture really looks like an SEI-Fe to me.
My last ESI-Fi GF looked the same way, which was like an SEI until I spent enough time with her talking about finance for her ESI-ness to come fully out. It turned out that her brother was an Si-dom SLI, she was married to an LSI, and everyone she worked with was an Alpha, so any expression of her ESI-ness was met with scorn. She naturally turned to her shadow functions.
She became fully ESI around me.
Since your friend’s sister looks so clearly ESI in the first picture and only Si-dom (which ESIs have as normally unvalued 4D), I’d say that she’s ESI-0 or ESI-Fi.
If she is SEI, she might like you. Maybe a lot. If she is ESI, she might still like you, but might criticize your low Fi.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 04-04-2022 at 03:43 PM.
i agree ISFx
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
SEI-Si
IEI
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
That's interesting, she's described as warm. I wouldn't call the ESIs I know warm. They're friendly well meaning people who definitely try to do the right thing by others - much more so than the average person. But wouldn't necessarily describe them as warm if I were looking for an adjective.Originally Posted by Adam Strange
SLE-Ti
That's interesting, what makes you pick IEI? I always struggle to pick it with people I haven't socialised with only because I want to pick the type that's my dual but try to be objective haha
SLE-Ti
VI is hard to explain since it is based on subjective patterns that everyone has observed, so result can be very different depending on the person using it. she has a very warm, inviting smile, which I relate to ethical types, especially sincere (IxFx) types. eyes are not fully opened which suggests introversion. here's an example of an EIE to compare:
https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...elle-Amore.png
the rings she has on her right hand seem extravagant compared to her person which indicates to me that she is an introvert with suggestive Se. so there's an expressive element to the introverted way that I see. not sure if you are an SLE btw. there are some other things I have noticed about her but it's too hard to put into words for me since it's all rather vague
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
I can understand your perspective. You are looking for Fe friendliness, and I am looking for Fi warmth. I agree with you that ESIs are superficially off-putting, but I guess I see past the outer defensive lines to the neat homes within.
Probably the best thing to do is to interact with her for a few days, very superficially, very gradually. See what you think.
@Prince Andrei, here is a picture of an IEI-Fe whom I know, to help you with VI. She's incredibly intelligent and can't find a man who will date her twice (because she hasn't met a really smart SLE-Ti yet.) I've known her for ten years and we've dated enough (platonically) so that I am 100% sure that she is IEI-Fe.
https://imgur.com/a/7w41r51
Notice her eyes. They are very caring eyes. (IEIs have 4D Fi.) She is sympathetic but not weak. The last time I saw her I was coughing and she made me a cup of some special tea that she had. She's like a Valkyrie. "Here is a potion, my warrior, to restore your strength. Because you need to be strong for me."
Her smile is very Fe, though. Very open, very much for other people, very much for a crowd. Compare her picture to that of the woman in the first picture you posted. Your friend's sister is giving a smile meant only for the viewer, meant only for one. Which is very much Valued Fi.
Wow, your friend is quite attractive, I'm surprised she wasn't snapped up when she was 23 or maybe she was and something went wrong with her partner. I have noticed IEI's aging well relative to other types. It's as if Ni preserves them...
Yeah I've picked IEI's in the past by their 'smiling' not quite open eyes (can see from the first photo of this confirmed IEI - I would call that a typical IEI look).
SLE-Ti
Yes, that girl is definitely EIE - so much energy! I actually find typing EIEs through VI pretty easy now. My old boss was EIE and he was so great, he really did care about everyone who worked for him. Incredibly selfless. Really looked after me. Though I do remember this one time we were watching a sports game and I could just sense his unceasing energy and mind ticking over (EJ temperament) which explains the activity relationship. It is so much easier to relax with an IEI. My direct report is an ESI guy and he does supervise me a bit which doesn't bother me given I know Socionics lol and he does it from a good place and he's not condescending to me (as he's lower than me in the organisation). He's quite interesting as he is pro COVID vaccine and his wife is much more vaccine hesitant (don't know her type). She lied to him about getting their son vaccinated. When he told me about it, I thought that was wrong but could understand that she would find lying easier than confronting him about her feelings - but he was much more moved. He said that lying to a partner is just something he would never do personally even if he had strong feelings that were unwelcome, as it's how he judges himself as a person and would feel if he did that he would be forgetting himself and who he is. Just a big Fi betrayal of trust.
What makes you doubt my SLE self typing (as I'm quite confident that I am - not least of all from having dualised in the past with IEI)? I actually thought I was LSI for a long time as the SLE stereotype can be quite misleading (e.g. impulsive class clown and jerk) and which wouldn't describe me. Having later typed LSIs I could tell the difference between them and me, the IJ temperament. But the truth about Se is that it's as much about sensing as it is about exerting force to get your own way in situations. It's ridiculous to think of SLEs as just raging toddlers - that's something someone with weak Se is likely to do. Someone high in Se can sense how much resistance someone or something has against him and can judge just how much pressure to apply and not overstep the mark to achieve the objective he wants whereas someone weak in Se could overstep (and cause permanent offence) or under-assert (and not accomplish anything). I notice it to with driving, I'm much better at sensing what type of driver is in the car ahead (slow, tentative or confident or unpredictable) by their steering and speed, it's like I'm seeing things about a fraction of a second faster than the average driver.
SLE-Ti
@Prince Andrei, my IEI friend did get married early, to an ILE. They had a kid and then started to hate each other.
She’s an extremely kind and understanding woman, but she does not like her ex.
We actually work together sometimes, and the last time we were working together, we also worked with this extremely handsome guy who displayed typical ILE Ne characteristics. I told her privately that he was the same psychological type as her ex-husband, and she sighed and said she found him to be extremely attractive, but she wasn’t going there again. Lol.
I think EIE really- you feel drawn to her and stimulated probably because of the Activity relationship. She reminds me kinda of this girl I used to write fan fiction stories with and we played off of each other well lol.
If not Beta then ESI Gamma would be my second choice but they are usually less 'campy' and satire looking in the face because of their ignoring unvalued 3D Fe.
I do *not* think she's SEI at all.
Here are a couple more (to see if it makes a difference to typing).
SLE-Ti
One more for good luck
Should add that she's fluent in French (even though native English speaker). Great at maths too.
Last edited by Prince Andrei; 04-06-2022 at 08:37 AM.
SLE-Ti
It’s close, but I think she’s an ESI, not an SEI.One more for good luck
Should add that she's fluent in French (even though native English speaker). Great at maths too.
Yeah it's funny as when I think of an ESI woman, I think of Uma Thurman. There was a thread about her here:
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...70-Uma-Thurman
You can see the firm and reserved chin of an IJ temperament and no sign of ego Fe in the slight smile. That just beams out to me as Gamma SF and reminds me a bit of my mum who's SEE.
SLE-Ti
From the pictures, she looks ethical and rational. ExE.
She is beautiful btw.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
F type
-
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Haha, yeah! Which is why I'm secretly hoping she's an IEI even though the consensus seems to be ESI.
SLE-Ti
I kinda agree with Adamn now about the smiling, the first girl seems to have a more private smile while this girl in the orignal quote seems to have a more Fe smile, this is all just my gut feeling though, but this smile feels less personal and more for a good picture, while the other girls laugh looks more connected to an emotion almost like someone made her laugh a little bit before they took the picture, except the very last picture that you posted with her head tilted, that one looks like she put on a smile for the camera. I can see what he means now.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
