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  • ILE-Ne (Inventor)

    1 2.27%
  • ILE-Ti (Selector)

    1 2.27%
  • SEI-Si (Hedonist)

    0 0%
  • SEI-Fe (Harmonizer)

    1 2.27%
  • ESE-Fe (Popular Writer)

    0 0%
  • ESE-Si (Trustee)

    0 0%
  • LII-Ti (Systemazier)

    1 2.27%
  • LII-Ne (Researcher)

    6 13.64%
  • IEE-Ne (Advisor)

    0 0%
  • IEE-Fi (Improvisator)

    2 4.55%
  • SLI-Si (Designer)

    2 4.55%
  • SLI-Te (Rationalizer)

    1 2.27%
  • LSE-Te (Manager)

    0 0%
  • LSE-Si (Technologist)

    0 0%
  • EII-Fi (Psychologist)

    3 6.82%
  • EII-Ne (Teacher)

    6 13.64%
  • SEE-Se (Tactician)

    1 2.27%
  • SEE-Fi (Businessman)

    0 0%
  • ILI-Ni (Philosopher)

    2 4.55%
  • ILI-Te (Expert)

    2 4.55%
  • LIE-Te (Reformer)

    3 6.82%
  • LIE-Ni (Strategist)

    2 4.55%
  • ESI-Fi (Moralist)

    1 2.27%
  • ESI-Se (Traditionalist)

    0 0%
  • SLE-Se (Coordinator)

    0 0%
  • SLE-Ti (Organizer)

    2 4.55%
  • IEI-Ni (Idealist)

    3 6.82%
  • IEI-Fe (Diplomat)

    2 4.55%
  • EIE-Fe (Tutor)

    1 2.27%
  • EIE-Ni (Actor)

    1 2.27%
  • LSI-Ti (Instructor)

    0 0%
  • LSI-Se (Controller)

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    Gulenko's descriptions:

    ILE - ENTp

    Intuitive subtype (Inventor): They differ in their excellent sense of novelty. They frequently become the originator of many inventions and discoveries. Unsurpassed generator of ideas. In their suggestions they is very daring. However, they easily drop a project if they are bored with it and they then feel drawn to a new, more captivating project. Capable of working well in business. Dynamic, talks rapidly, with many gestures. Frequently of stocky built, courageous appearance, whiskers (if a man). Great significance is attached to external appearance.

    Logical subtype: (The Selector): Self-centred and pensive. Their ideas do not have direct connection with reality, for example philosophy, religion, bioenergetics etc. Their favourite occupation is comparing different logical systems. A type of office scientist. A very slim figure is characteristic for them. Angular in their movements, does not pay attention to external appearance, worry little about their health.


    SEI - ISFp

    Sensory subtype: (The Hedonist) Possess a good aesthetical taste; this can manifest in their clothing, interior decoration, and job. This artist is frequently drawn to depicting landscapes and still lifes. They are a judge of the savoir vivre; for them, comfort is very important. They are sybarites and take care of their external appearance. They are hedonists, and they love to provide pleasure both to themselves and to others. Outwardly, they are a bit more stout than the ethical subtype.

    Ethical subtype: (The Harmonizer) Emotional ethics are intensified. They are emotionally expressive and sociable, enters easily into any company, appears to be an extrovert. Loves practical and spacious clothes, about which they are not very choosy – they can also walk around shabbily. Artistic, frequently performs the role of instigator. They easily find themselves in amateur artistic activity, can be a musician, actor, advertising agent, or poet.


    ESE - ESFj


    Ethical subtype: (The Popular Writer) Very expressive, it is difficult to withstand their emotional pressure. Possess high fitness for work; however, their uncontrollable feelings prevent their work from realizing its potential. Very scattered; jumps from one thing to another. Straightforward, not average, Are characterized by their explosive choleric temperament. Outwardly – has a desire to draw the attention of the opposite sex by bright clothing, which presents an element of demonstrativeness.

    Sensory subtype: (The Trustee) Aesthete, loves to provide pleasure to themselves and to those around them, loves to give gifts. Good at maintaining household – knows how to make do even with a minimum of conveniences. A man of business, can be a successful manager in the leisure and entertainments industry. Women of this type knit and sew well, know how to be charming, possess a good taste in colour matching clothing. Undemonstrative behaviour. Very bad at enduring pain and poor health.


    LII - INTj

    Logical subtype: (The Systemizer) Concrete and regulated, an organizer in science, does not entrust too [outlandish?] ideas. Scholars, but only in their own narrow area of competence. Their behaviour is dry, restrained; they can be authoritarian. Does not love discussions and frictions in a group; operates from a distant psychological distance. Strict adherent of reasonable systems. Clothing is strict.

    Intuitive subtype: (The Researcher) Analyst; a good scientist and conceptualist. Their primary attention is given to global issues. A generator of ideas. Achievements with potential are more important to them than the result of the current moment. Soft, correct and careful in his social contacts. Outwardly frequently very slim, gives more attention to external appearance and health than Logical subtype.


    IEE - ENFp

    Intuitive subtype: (The Advisor) A very sociable, spirited, mobile person. The initiator of many things; however, They are characterized by great restlessness and changeability. Very creative, but scattered and undisciplined. Capable of letting others know of his dissatisfaction, also, shows disrespect towards authorities. Outwardly, they frequently have complete rounded forms. In their clothing they can be demonstrative and bright, sometimes even loud.

    Ethical subtype: (The Improvisator) Sees in people their concealed gravities and attachments. Prefers to work on a short psychological distance (unlike the other subtype). They love to give advice, and they gravitate towards psychoanalysis, in this case counts on manifestation in people of their positive qualities. They can stand up for others, defending their interests, but find it difficult to stand up for themselves. Is outwardly more frequently thin and elegant. In their clothing, they prefer comfort and soft colours.


    SLI - ISTp

    Sensory subtype: (The Designer) Aesthete, disposed to obtaining pleasant sensations. Is considerably more gregarious than the initial subtype. More optimistic, but less operational. Sybaritic epicure. Gravitates towards the humanitarian disciplines - skill, linguistics, history. Dresses with taste, chooses clothes that emphasize their good looks, selects clothes according to colour.

    Logical subtype: (The Rationalizer) Outwardly businesslike, a little severe, cold and unapproachable. A realist and skeptic, distrustful of novelty, of those who advance [ideas of declarative character?]. Will always avoid useless matters, due to pragmatic nature. Very dynamic and technologically effective, Can extract the maximum of benefit even from tools. Their production is always foremost and will stand up to any competition on the market. Clothing is restrained, conservative, and they prefer a sporty, technological style.


    LSE - ESTj


    Logical subtype: (The Manager) Attempts to combine the entire cycle of production in their hands. A good worker, does not tolerate incompetence, is well educated in their area of competence. Very operational, sometimes wear themselves out with work. Consider that only thus can they require the same from others. Can be sharp in judgments. Usually formulates tasks very clearly. In the sphere of production attains the responsibility for a product, love to admire what they have made, and emphasize the advantage of their goods. Works well under the conditions of a stable market - in transportation, in the army. Clothing is conservative; for them, the main things are cleanliness, order and functionality.

    Sensory subtype: (The Technologist) Feels at home in the intermediate fields of production – in trade or management. Is less inquisitive than the logical subtype; Is very sociable, emotional, gregarious. Frequently hospitable; loves comfort and cosiness, and likes to spend leisure time in nature. Easily manages the responsibilities of a technical director or manager.


    EII - INFj


    Ethical subtype: (The Psychologist) Is sincerely religious or adheres to any ethical system. Unobtrusive and restrained. Ascetic. Strict towards themselves and others when it comes to disturbances of moral standards. Not likely to take the initiative. Little interested in the fact that they’re not connected with their persuasions. In their work they are sluggish and scrupulous. With them it is possible to have a talk, to pour out one’s soul, to receive simple, but efficient advice. Outward appearance: self-absorbed, ascetic.

    Intuitive subtype: (The Teacher) A good eye for people; immediately sees who does or doesn’t feel drawn to them by the looks in people’s eyes / have similar views to them. They love to be in a close circle of friends and adherents, and to discuss with them the novelties of literature, skill, humanities. Frequently behave unsure of themselves; They are scattered. The aim is humanitarian activity, but they can work in the service industry. Works well both in medicine and in pedagogy. Knows how to reconcile those disputing, to smooth out sharp situations. Knows how to create a pleasant situation, how to create a comfortable home. Dresses with the taste, frequently follows fashion.
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    SEE - ESFp

    Sensory subtype: (The Tactician) Very active, energetic, enterprising. Adventurous, loves competitions and risks, loves playing with the law. If they feel defeated they tend to give up. Is one of the most unpredictable types. Works well in the intermediate trade structures, but not in production. A sharp change in mood is characteristic for them: if something is good for me, then everyone should be happy; if something is bad for me, then let the rest suffer too. Can exert powerful emotional pressure. A good executive and works well in the service industry, for example as a waiter; a good actor (but only in the easy genres like comedy or operetta). Easily manipulates relationships; able to attract people who do not yet know him. Is emotionally unstable; therefore is frequently unsociable (may provoke something and in the case of failure - rapidly retreat into the shadows).

    Ethical subtype: (The Businessman) Appears influential and reliable, gradually attracted to others if they are useful. Possesses a specific snobbery, the status of impressiveness. For them, everything must become better and better – their office, car, etc... A good worker; can lead people and relationships; calculates well; is pragmatic. Is not adventurous. Are good politicians, since they wonderfully sense people and draw their attention when necessary. Plays the role of a thoughtful person who works on the key problem. Dresses more with restraint than the other subtype.

    ILI - INTp

    Intuitive subtype: (The Philosopher) Ascetic, grumbling, loves to emphasize deficiencies, searches for opponents. Criticizes sometimes with a dose of biliousness. Frequently have a very slim figure; they can provoke conflicts and actions, including commercial ones. Possesses large erudition and memory, frequently gets stuck in details. A scientist and theorist that makes fundamental developments and who also has an eye for social-economic tendencies. Using analogies, frequently they can predict the development of an ongoing process. Outwardly slovenly and negligent. Little regard to their health.


    Logical subtype: (The Expert)
    Practical and operational, they dislike any useless activity. They try to extract benefit from everything, does not allow industrial wastes - everything must be reasonably used. Loves company, friends, a good table. A sense of humour is well developed. Knows how to get along with those around him. They are outwardly elegant, sociable; however, sometimes of a weakened constitution.


    LIE - ENTj

    Logical subtype: (The Reformer)
    Most dynamic of all psycho-types, a pioneer in their region of activity, searches for supporters with whom it is possible to realize his own or general ideas. Very emotional and impulsive; therefore can be inconsistent in their actions. Trusting; because of their carelessness they can unintentionally land themselves into complicated affairs; seems spontaneous. Works well in free market activity; if they lose, they do not lose spirit and optimism, but again go forward. Pays little attention to external appearances and health, is outwardly thin, very mobile, sometimes wears beard and whiskers(if male), prone to disorderly conduct.

    Intuitive subtype: (The Strategist) Calm and balanced, conducts a regulated life, knows when to take advantage of opportunities. Quietly selects what idea it is better to follow, will always find the most optimal and advantageous output, which will give the greatest return. They are frequently a natural scientist, an experimenter, acting with their mind and hands simultaneously. Can interest themselves in chemistry, and in painting, in this case they try to bring everything to the end. Excellent hygrotechnician and experimenter. Gets along well with children, easily carries them along through their interesting actions. Outwardly more restrained and stocky than the other subtype; tries to dress well and pay attention to their health.

    ESI - ISFj

    Ethical subtype: (The Moralist) Subtle, sensitive nature, is a good judge of character and a reliable friend, is capable of compromise. In their softness and ease of contact he sometimes resembles IS(F)Ps. This subtype is more frequently better at putting ideas into practice than at organizing things: since others are included, their opinions are important to him. Very good with small children; sensitive, thoughtful and attentive. Can also manifest applied skill and cultural activity. Outward appearance is modest; rarely follows fashion and prefers a freer style.

    Sensory subtype: (The Traditionalist) Characterized by luxury in their close circles, Can even be aggressive if people do not agree with them. Dutiful, active and hardy. In conflict situations is never the first to seek reconciliation. Can lead groups well enough, maintain discipline and order, and apply sanctions to those misbehaving. Demonstrate affection through their eyes. Businesslike and purposeful, gravitates towards administrative activity. Can give rebuff and marshal, if that creates a mafia-like structure, since they will easily recognize the results of this activity. Prefers a prestigious style of clothing, sometimes in bright, but unexciting tones.


    SLE - ESTp

    Sensory subtype: (The Coordinator) Sharp, demonstrative, attacking style of behaviour. Expressive and expansive to the point of being aggressive. Feels at home in emergencies; find themselves in conflicts; can pressure people in order to rapidly introduce order. If conflicts do not occur, they can provoke some in order to then take the initiative into their own hands. Emotional and sociable, will want the attention of more than one person of the opposite sex. Women also display initiative in their acquaintances with men. This subtype is sinewy, mobile, often thin, has a well developed taste, is an epicure. In fashion are drawn to refinement and prestige.

    Logical subtype: (The Organizer) Prefer to remain in the shadows, not to demonstrate their aspirations, but constantly hold their hands on the pulse of all proceedings around them. Outwardly appears balanced and phlegmatic. Before acting, checks all versions of possible consequences and only then enters into the game. Distrustful and careful, skeptic, conservative and realistic. Because they are not very sociable, may appear to be introverted. If they have their aim on a victim, they act slowly, by the method of the "compressive ring".


    IEI - INFp

    Intuitive subtype: (The Idealist) Facial expression is typically interrogative, and they seem calm, dreamy, and contemplative. Their line of behaviour is frequently passive. Romantic spirits. They live in the world of illusions, and they attempt to avoid negative emotions. They can be optimistic. They shrink away from conflict situations and support compromises. They are restrained in their clothing, elegant and refined. They can fulfill the functions of an abstract thinker, work in psychology and psychotherapy.

    Ethical subtype: (The Diplomat) Flatters and is charming and communicable. If they see negative emotions in the people around them, they will try to arrange things so that people will calm down. They will mobilize well in dangerous situations. Loves to be in the centre of attention and dramatize proceedings, possesses a sense of humour. They easily manipulate by intonation and voice; can work successfully as a journalist --- They easily succeed in enticing the person they talk to. Outwardly they can appear extravagant; frequently takes a bohemian and bright form.

    EIE - ENFj

    Ethical subtype: (The Tutor) Emotionally excited, sharp. Demonstrates fervent feelings, is decisively artistic. Easily yields to flattery. Characterized by aristocratic manners. Frequently a good speaker or a political leader with patriotic leanings. Is internally dramatic and spontaneous, loves to demonstrate his opinion. Outwardly they can shock those around them by extremes in clothing – a hobo with soiled sleeves. They can, on the contrary, dress in vivid or aristocratically choice clothes.

    Intuitive subtype: (The Actor) Predisposed to reflection, internal fluctuations and doubts. Thinks descriptively, is inclined to philosophy. Not very critical of external appearances, not exacting of their food. Reserved, sensitive, fragile, speaks out unobtrusively, They are popular and punctual. A good educator and teacher; can entice their listeners. Outwardly calm. Eloquent when recounting material.


    LSI - ISTj

    Logical subtype: (The Instructor) Most rational logical type. Very constructive. Their aims are in hierarchy; works thoroughly and brings everything to its end without missing a detail. Not very dynamic and does not transfer confusion. Outwardly is strict, sustained, somewhat single-minded. In working situations is official, and even with close relatives can manifest a barrack style of behaviour. Clothing is conservative, for males: his suit is often in a strict, dark tone.

    Sensory subtype: (The Controller) Irregular and impulsive, does not always follow the order they require from others, in this case they are capable of condemning those who disrupt this order. Communicable and courteous from a distance, but on closer observation, can prove to be intolerant. When caught, they can answer with aggression. Their aim is leadership, but they are better at leading small associations. Outwardly appears strong. The men frequently have facial hair. In their clothing they prefer a free style.

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    Intuitive subtype: (The Philosopher) Ascetic, grumbling, loves to emphasize deficiencies, searches for opponents. Criticizes sometimes with a dose of biliousness. Frequently have a very slim figure; they can provoke conflicts and actions, including commercial ones. Possesses large erudition and memory, frequently gets stuck in details. A scientist and theorist that makes fundamental developments and who also has an eye for social-economic tendencies. Using analogies, frequently they can predict the development of an ongoing process. Outwardly slovenly and negligent. Little regard to their health.

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    I should make the point because there is possibility for confusion: everyone has both subtypes, but at different levels of their personality. The outer and inner circuits have different subtypes, but they are always the reverse of each other. Consider I am a creative subtype on the \"outside\", but my inner \"shadow\" self is very dominant. In my experience this is common of all creative types, and is the means by which they defend their work.

    The reverse also holds true. Notice those polls Gilly is holding: he conceives of the choice to gauge the mood, which is the producer going to the acceptor. However he primarily functions as a dominant subtype, which is characterized by movement from the acceptor to the producer. We\'ve seen him use dominant mode on more than one occasion, most notably the prohibition initiative against dual-type theory discussion in what was then General Discussion. I would say he mobilizes sentiment very well, except I think he\'s more like a \"tipping point agent\" who sets off the critical spark after discontent reaches critical mass.

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    I didn't vote but I highlighted the parts from both I relate to, whatever that may mean...maybe "middle" subtype

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    EII - INFj

    Ethical subtype: (The Psychologist) Is sincerely religious or adheres to any ethical system. Unobtrusive and restrained. Ascetic. Strict towards themselves and others when it comes to disturbances of moral standards. Not likely to take the initiative. Little interested in the fact that they’re not connected with their persuasions. In their work they are sluggish and scrupulous. With them it is possible to have a talk, to pour out one’s soul, to receive simple, but efficient advice. Outward appearance: self-absorbed, ascetic.

    Intuitive subtype: (The Teacher) A good eye for people; immediately sees who does or doesn’t feel drawn to them by the looks in people’s eyes / have similar views to them. They love to be in a close circle of friends and adherents, and to discuss with them the novelties of literature, skill, humanities. Frequently behave unsure of themselves; They are scattered. The aim is humanitarian activity, but they can work in the service industry. Works well both in medicine and in pedagogy. Knows how to reconcile those disputing, to smooth out sharp situations. Knows how to create a pleasant situation, how to create a comfortable home. Dresses with the taste, frequently follows fashion.
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    The Expert.

    I like that name :-)

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    Still don't even know my type...whatever.
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    "When you see an evil act you have to stop it with your hand.
    If you can't, then at least speak out against it with your tongue.
    If you can't, then at least you have to hate it with all your heart.
    And this is the weakest of faith."

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    In the Gulenko subtype system, I'm Te sub. It's switched for Meged and Ocharov.
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

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    EIE-Ni sounds the most like me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    The selector.
    The end is nigh

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    I can be very strict, but I'm also very image conscious. The Ne subtype of LII pays more attention to their appearance, but no LII description has them put it front and center. I don't know which LII I am. Si subtype?
    The saddest ESFj

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    I should make the point because there is possibility for confusion: everyone has both subtypes, but at different levels of their personality. The outer and inner circuits have different subtypes, but they are always the reverse of each other. Consider I am a creative subtype on the \"outside\", but my inner \"shadow\" self is very dominant. In my experience this is common of all creative types, and is the means by which they defend their work.

    The reverse also holds true. Notice those polls Gilly is holding: he conceives of the choice to gauge the mood, which is the producer going to the acceptor. However he primarily functions as a dominant subtype, which is characterized by movement from the acceptor to the producer. We\'ve seen him use dominant mode on more than one occasion, most notably the prohibition initiative against dual-type theory discussion in what was then General Discussion. I would say he mobilizes sentiment very well, except I think he\'s more like a \"tipping point agent\" who sets off the critical spark after discontent reaches critical mass.
    if this is possible, then you're suggesting the same can occur on a more basic level. it would mean, for some people, jumping back and fourth between creative functions or even dominant functions.

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    I don't have a subtype.
    SEE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I don't have a subtype.
    Dec 25 is coming: don't miss the chance and ask Santa for one
    ILE "Searcher"
    Socionics: ENTp
    DCNH: Dominant --> perhaps Normalizing
    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
    MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
    Astrological sign: Aquarius

    To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.

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    I see no use for a subtype.
    SEE

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    i don't have a subtype either. =\
    INTp
    sx/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I don't have a subtype.
    Te subtype.

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    I'm strict and self absorbed lol
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    IEI - INFp


    Intuitive subtype: (The Idealist) Facial expression is typically interrogative, and they seem calm, dreamy, and contemplative. Their line of behaviour is frequently [sometimes] passive. Romantic spirits. They live in the world of illusions, and they attempt to avoid negative emotions. They can be optimistic. They shrink away from conflict situations and support compromises. They are restrained in their clothing, elegant and refined. They can fulfill the functions of an abstract thinker, work in psychology and psychotherapy.


    Ethical subtype: (The Diplomat) Flatters and is charming and communicable. If they see negative emotions in the people around them, they will try to arrange things so that people will calm down. They will mobilize well in dangerous situations. Loves to be in the centre of attention and dramatize proceedings, possesses a sense of humour. They easily manipulate by intonation and voice; can work successfully as a journalist --- They easily succeed in enticing the person they talk to. Outwardly they can appear extravagant; frequently takes a bohemian and bright form.
    No subtype.

    I guess all of it can apply depending on the situation I am in. Left alone, without input from others, I feel like am only using Ni since I have no need for Fe when alone. Unless I am talking to myself. Sometimes my role kicks in but not for long. I am lost in my own thoughts a lot.

    As for clothing, I can dress for any occasion but I have my own style and know what I like. It also depends heavily on my moods. I can be entertaining too for short periods of time. I do write but the idea of being a journalist would be a strange career choice for me. I rarely have interest in news stories or celebrities. I did watch the Kardashians though.

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    LII - INTj

    Logical subtype: (The Systemizer)

    Concrete and regulated

    --Somewhat. Probably more regulated than concrete.

    an organizer in science,

    --yes

    does not entrust too [outlandish?] ideas.

    --If they are just ideas to think about and not to implement, I am open to practically everything, even the very outlandish ones. If they are ideas to implement, then I might not take the more outlandish ones that seriously unless I have good reason to believe they can be easily implemented.

    Scholars, but only in their own narrow area of competence.

    --No, I don't like to limit myself to just one narrow area.

    Their behaviour is dry, restrained; they can be authoritarian.

    --Depends on who you ask. I guess I can be somewhat dry and restrained to some people but to other I'm not so much that way and I'm more warm and spontaneous. I'm not particularly authoritarian. I mean I can be but it's not a role I want to do for too long.

    Does not love discussions and frictions in a group;

    --I like group discussion if they are fruitful and don't destroy the interpersonal harmony between group members.

    operates from a distant psychological distance.

    --I suppose so. I have a hard time letting anyone get too emotionally close to me.

    Strict adherent of reasonable systems.

    --Yes

    Clothing is strict.

    --No. I prefer more free-flowing casual style dress. I don't like to stand out too much clothing wise.



    Intuitive subtype: (The Researcher)
    Analyst; a good scientist and conceptualist.

    --Yes

    Their primary attention is given to global issues.

    --Yes

    A generator of ideas.

    --Yes

    Achievements with potential are more important to them than the result of the current moment.

    --Yes but I do like to see results too and not wait a long time to see results.

    Soft, correct and careful in his social contacts.

    --Yes.


    Outwardly frequently very slim,

    --No.


    gives more attention to external appearance and health than Logical subtype.

    --I don't know. I care what others think of me in terms of my conduct with others but less so with my physical appearance. I still want to look reasonably attractive to others and presentable but I don't worry overly much about it. I do care somewhat about health but I don't want to spend to much time on it either.


    It looks like I'm closer to Ne subtype overall but still relate to some aspects of Ti subtype.
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    I'll do the INFJ ones too since I have considered that type too off-and-on.

    EII - INFj

    Ethical subtype: (The Psychologist)

    Is sincerely religious or adheres to any ethical system.

    --Religious, no. I'm agnostic. I can't say I strictly adhere to any one ethical system but I do have moral principles I live by.

    Unobtrusive and restrained.

    --Yes


    Ascetic.

    --Somewhat

    Strict towards themselves and others when it comes to disturbances of moral standards.

    --Yes

    Not likely to take the initiative.

    --Usually I wait for others to do so but will take the initiative when it looks like no one else is.


    Little interested in the fact that they’re not connected with their persuasions.

    --I don't know. What does it mean 'to be connected with their persuasions?"

    In their work they are sluggish and scrupulous.

    --Sometimes. More scrupulous than sluggish I think. I can be rather meticulous and perfectionistic, want every i dotted and t crossed.


    With them it is possible to have a talk, to pour out one’s soul, to receive simple, but efficient advice.

    --It's possible but it's rare.


    Outward appearance: self-absorbed, ascetic.

    --Self-absorbed- yes. Ascetic, don't know.


    Intuitive subtype: (The Teacher)

    A good eye for people; immediately sees who does or doesn’t feel drawn to them by the looks in people’s eyes / have similar views to them.

    --Yes

    They love to be in a close circle of friends and adherents, and to discuss with them the novelties of literature, skill, humanities.

    --Sometimes

    Frequently behave unsure of themselves; They are scattered.

    --Often behave unsure, sometimes scattered.

    The aim is humanitarian activity, but they can work in the service industry.

    --Yes

    Works well both in medicine and in pedagogy.

    --I'm not particularly interested in working in medicine unless I don't have to have direct contact with sick people. Pedagogy I do like.

    Knows how to reconcile those disputing, to smooth out sharp situations.

    --No. I'm poor at that. I get someone else to take of that.

    Knows how to create a pleasant situation, how to create a comfortable home.

    --I can do it but I'm not sure I'm all that great at it.

    Dresses with the taste, frequently follows fashion.

    --I dress tastefully I guess. I don't follow fashion.


    Now for the INFj, I think I might be a little closer to the Fi subtype.

    I still think I'm more INTj overall and the Ne subtype of INTj.
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    I don't like how the two-subtype system is being abandoned (when paradoxically, Gulenko behind the scenes still uses it, apparently), So I'm bumping this so y'all can take a look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    I don't like how the two-subtype system is being abandoned (when paradoxically, Gulenko behind the scenes still uses it, apparently), So I'm bumping this so y'all can take a look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Why and how is ILI-Te the Expert?
    From the thread:

    Logical subtype: (The Expert) Practical and operational, they dislike any useless activity. They try to extract benefit from everything, does not allow industrial wastes - everything must be reasonably used. Loves company, friends, a good table. A sense of humour is well developed. Knows how to get along with those around him. They are outwardly elegant, sociable; however, sometimes of a weakened constitution.
    If you are asking how Gulenko came up with those descriptions, I guess he typed some people to the point he realized there were two subtypes, and then tried to find the commonality between those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    I don't like how the two-subtype system is being abandoned (when paradoxically, Gulenko behind the scenes still uses it, apparently), So I'm bumping this so y'all can take a look at it.
    It's being abandoned? I never noticed. I'm always using it constantly, only not doing so when I can't tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContractedCriminalboy View Post
    It's being abandoned? I never noticed. I'm always using it constantly, only not doing so when I can't tell.
    If you only did something when you can't tell, how would you find out anyway?

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    Gulenko does not use two subtypes. 4 DCNH types. There are 9 accentuation types in which none is the default. When it comes to descriptions that can be found translated... According to some sources the translator replaced intial and terminal types as Xi and Xe subs .
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