Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
You actually seem pretty good at describing yourself, could you explain why this is the case? I agree LIE is unlikely, too much Fe.
Well this is what Reining has to say on SLE's :

Function #4- subjective intuition ():I want the world to be in harmony and beautiful. I want to feel good so do something”. A Zhukov’s thirst for inner peace is the biggest than any others’. He does not know how to manage his own feelings. He needs external influence to have a change of mood. Therefore he resorts to common means of changing the mood: alcohol, drugs. Some of them get into verbal fights. This is a very interesting channel of suggestion because this type is usually at the top and we run into them in burocratic structures. They are difficult to be around because they have hard time managing their moods and emotions, they are unpredictable.
Which doesn't fit reality except for the bolded part (and even then it's something that's more entertaining than serious to me, which I don't expect everyone to understand), but not nearly as ill fitting as his description of what the actual 4th function entails:

Function number four.
Suggestive function. The principle of "place assessment". Motives. "I want to"

This is a function through which a suggestion might be done most easily. In the fourth function area an individual is open for external influences. Depending on which type the person belongs to; different outer signals have more or less impact on him or her. It is often thought (often confirmed at public hypnosis sessions) that 7 to 10 % of people yield to hypnosis while others do not. I believe that it is just not so. Each person is subject to suggestive psychotherapy. The problem is that the techniques of trance induction used at public sessions work effectively only with one or two out of sixteen types, the rest of the audience does not respond.
While the first function is about "things I have sufficient knowledge about", the fourth function is about "what other people know". Here a person is prone to be guided by others, to lean on external authority. In practice of suggestive psychotherapy and hypnosis a concept of rapport is used: the concept of connection between the hypnotist and the object of hypnosis. Each type has a 'built-in' rapport with the external world. This is the core of the fourth function. Here the person is most gullible and open for external information, he takes it in without discernment.
Each IM type has an area open for suggestion, so everyone has this breach for gullibility. And I believe it would be good for people who are, so to speak, interested in inner their mechanics, to know about this feature of their type. It is useful to know what happens when the external world somehow manipulates you. It is good to be on guard be able to detect, recognize and correct such influences, it does not mean you are on defense (in my opinion, it is not good to be on defense from the external world); it means that your behavior is conscious.
Good knowledge of one's fourth function is very important from the point of view of increase of one's level of awareness. As a rule, in this area people are hypochondriacal. Strange things happen here. For example, other people know whether I am ill or healthy. Others tell me whether I am in love or not. In this sphere a person is not discerning. As a rule he/she simply does not pay attention to a suggestion. It might be recognized later, when experiencing a new quality of state. Usually it is not recognized at all. However, when I know this trait of my personality, I have a chance to discern an attempt to manipulate me at an earlier stage. And as soon as the attempt is discerned, it is not unconscious any more. Then I am in control, allowing or blocking certain influences. It is a very interesting research – learning about the areas where I am open, hypochondriacal or unprotected. To begin with when exposed to certain influences pay attention to your automatisms.
Usually people are unaware of the fourth function, and are prone to create situations where 'programming' occurs. Often such behavior appears to be a process of collecting of strategies, estimations, and information processing techniques. And in the same area uneasiness and anxiety are frequent. Even gross flattery and obvious disinformation presented through the channels of the fourth function have good chances to pass without criticism.

If the active set of stereotypes and habitual reactions in this sphere is extensive enough, the person may look rather effective in corresponding area. Unlike the situation with the second function, this efficiency is discrete – when facing unusual, non-standard environment all efficiency may disappear.
The subject matter of the fourth function is often used as the criteria for assessing a place, for example: “I am loved here, so the place is good ” (Maxim). Here person's motivation ("I want to") is detected: “I want to be loved”.
The third and fourth functions affect the choice of the social niche. As a rule, we look for a place in a society where these functions would be protected in one way or another. It happens instinctively.
Why do I need to know the fourth function of the type? The better I know the programming channels, the less I am exposed to external influences. It is a challenge for everyone with any IM type.
Thing is is most definitely not the channel through which I can be suggestible because information pertaining this function is something I provide others with, and not the opposite, I'm hardly if ever unaware of it, don't fret about it, and I don't think anyone would classify any circle I'm part of as a heavy environment. It's a very private thing for me actually, I only discuss it online and even then only to a certain extent for several reasons. If there's anything I'm totally comfortable with and confident about is .

Another thing that doesn't fit SLE at all is :

Function #-1 subjective sensoring (): health is in the area of ignoring. A Zhukov has a "farmer's attitude" in health issues: "I shall plough until I drop dead in my furrow." When he does get sick having spent all his strength in feverish activity) he allows others to take care of them. Only when they are burnt out they might agree to take some time off at a resort or a hospital. People of this type should remember this because people are not indestructible; they are not sources of endless energy. However, they should not stay away from work completely. A Zhukov needs to learn to control this area of life. Not all of them are capable of doing that.
A Zhukov is not a picky eater: he expects food to be plentiful and filling, it should not be some choice food, but it should be esthetically pleasing.
This is like, the opposite of my attitude towards health and food, I'm super aware of my resources and I protect them fiercely, I'm also quie particular and demanding when it comes to what I consume.

As for EIE, these are both really off base, but specially the bolded:

Function #4(suggestible) - subjective logic (): a good place is where I understand everything. A Hamlet may accept things because they sound logical. A Hamlet and a Hugo are the two types who enjoy the most attending lectures, meetings, discussions, etc. (see description of a Hugo). The key thing here is that they need a structure and they need to be able to understand what’s going on. They accept other people’s explanation of how everything works and what is right and wrong. A good place is the place where I understand everything, where things have been explained to me and I understood. A Hamlet is open for outside influences through explanations.

Function #-4- objective logic (): the zone of fears. “To be or not to be?” – this is a Hamlet’s classical question. Alas, it is necessary to make a decision! What is going to happen after I make a decision? Nobody knows, and this is frightening... When a choice is made there is freedom for creativity. It is a purely a hamletian problem – the fear of realization, of definiteness, irreversibility of a made decision. Even if it is clear that it is absolutely necessary to move (to put things in order; to make a legal implementation), but somehow there is never enough time.
A Hamlet has to make efforts to feel more or less confidently in the area where decision-making is a necessity. A Hamlet never puts other people's things in order and hardly ever organizes his/her own belongings.
NB! People of this type are susceptible to illness in the upper air passages.
If anything I'm way too suspicious and skeptical about information I do not find out or come across myself, and I hate when people try to feed me their own conclusions whenever I ask them direct questions (not opinions). Then there's the fact that I make decisions too early on. I might change them later on, sometimes more than once and even last minute if I get new reliable facts or a strong intuition, but I don't put off on picking an option and I'm always at least 90% confident about the one I choose at the time. Even with typing all these years of MBTI and more recently Socionics, I absolutely hate not having a type to call my own, it's the first time ever I don't have one in my profile.