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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
If you ask midwifes, they claim they have observed that during full moon, significantly more baby boys are born. But until this has been proven using scientic procedures, this is a hypothesis at best. And guess what: it has been disproven!
Show me the results of scientific research! Referring to 'the Russians' doesn't make it true, and I wouldn't be surprised when 'the Russians' never made such claims.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Because it has been studied. Independently, but will all things Russia...they don't like letting the outside world know anything they know; their was a proceedure that a Russian doctor was testing about 35 years ago with extending limbs of people born with one leg shorter then the other; he performed that proceedure on my cousin in the late 80's; The proceedure did not get adapted into the US community nearly 28 years after it was founded. Think about that.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The result of a study could very well have been that the hypothesis has been disproven. But I assume you mean: studied and proven. If that is the case, then put your money where your mouth is and show us where we can find that research, so we can investigate how the study ws performed and if it was done using valid methods. I have read Socionics studies myself that violated principles of scientific studies (e.g. the one mentioned on socionics.us on type and vocabulary).
ETA: now you have changed your post (you should really learn to use ETAs) and are referring to undisclosed 'scientific research'??
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
I have no set opinion, but I'd say Ti/Fe valuing. I speculated Lech could have been LII and Jaroslaw SLE. Coincidentially, that would result in supervision - which would explain enormous influence there was. Although the information I based it on comes from sources which were keen to represent them in either very bad or very good light, as most info on politicians does.
Good point about potential repressed homosexuality, although that's something we'll probably never know for sure.
I think what's believed about type is that it's inborn, or more exactly natural (i.e. independent of parental influence, for example). This may lead many people - like some here - to assume it's genetic. Let's face it, that's what is taught at school along with simple trait inheritance - that genotype determines fenotype, period. It's easy to jump to conclusions. Was there ever any kind of socionics research involving twins? I'd be interested in any evidence there might be.
I knew a pair of identical twins. They were most definitely of different socio-types.
In fact, many of my sensor friends could not tell the difference between them. Only two people, an LIE and myself, were able to distinguish them with ease. I think this is because we tended to distinguish them not by physical means since we were intuitives, but something less tangible but still part of their persona.
Ceci n'est pas une eii.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Tests suck dick. Identical twins are identical (duh) (except for finger prints)
I've observed this: Identical (monozygotic) twins are always: a) Identicals, b) conflictors. I don't have a too large sample from which I've drawn this conclusion, but it makes sense because VI-wise conflictors are very similar (in external traits/appeareance , not actual VI of facial expressions). This suggests that conflictors share similar genetic configuration, and that at an undetermined point, a "switch" is activated that sets the final type. What this "switch" could be, I do not know.
IMO; Cole - LIE-Te, Dylan - SEI-Si.Originally Posted by toska
I knew a pair who both seemed SEE except one was more girly and the other was more sporty. Sadly, one of them died. I knew a non-identical pair and one of them seemed ILE and the other EIE. That’s all I’ve seen so far.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
My childhood neighbors were both EIE-Ni, but I'm not sure if they were identical and the one still living doesn't know either. My parents couldn't tell them apart very well, but I always thought of them as different people. Another pair of twins (not sure if they're identical) I know of are also EIE-Ni (or at least one is, god I HATE their EIE-Ni son's narcissistic rage and pretentiousness and quips and frequently shitty selections of things, some of the foods, his refrigerator, having a gas grill and his home and the way parts of it smell are pretty terrible although the photos he takes are quite good). A third pair of twins (they are identical but I've always been able to tell them apart) I know were IEI-Ni. I've been friends with the sexy one while the other one wasn't sexy so I didn't pursue friendship with her.
Which gender were they, by type?
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I have lots of identical and non-identical twins in my family. I find them interesting and I think twins generally are not identical. I have theory but I am not going to share at the moment. By the way, genes of identical twins are also not %100 identical due to epigenetics.
For example, I don't think that twins in this video are not identical. (CC video is shared by sbdds to illustrate some fragment of her personalized hell)
Bailey has better Fe than Brooklyn. She is either ESE or IEE or EIE, can't say the same with same level of confidence for Brooklyn.