I understand conformism factor on forums.Originally Posted by Myst
Kate Bush - INFJ
Gwyneth Paltrow - INFP
I understand conformism factor on forums.
Kate Bush - INFJ
Gwyneth Paltrow - INFP
Yes, where does summerprincess use Fe according to you? =) this will be good.
Yes. Her facial expression is minimal in this video. I would also go with Fi ego based on her nonverbal communication in the video.
@summerprincess You appear to be well spoken. Your video was enjoyable.
Her Fe shows up in annoyance in her tone and too many little nuances in attitude. I'm not like that
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Just for the sake of conversation. Gwyneth is best friends with Chelsea Handler and Chelsea is often typed as being SLE. If Gwyneth was EII then that would mean two conflictors, in this instance, like to spend their free time together. It would make more sense if either Gwyn was not EII and perhaps something like IEI, or SEI to get along so well with Chelsea, or Gwyn is EII and Chelsea is not SLE. Either way something doesn't add up.
Cause why not.
Gwyneth Paltrow is an experience junkie, she's SEE
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Kate Bush: EII 9w1 imo
Kate Bush has got 9 in her tritype for sure, but I think she could rather be 4w3, in the way she is trying to be all unique and different and stuff, but with a commercial edge.
I think she's sx9 and reminds me of Bjork, another unique 9. She just feels 9w1 - calm, sweetnes, serenity, no presence. Too sweet and innocent for a 4 - no darkness. There are many many people who try to be different in a way (3w4's, 5w4's, many 7's etc) and that doesn't make them a 4. Don't want to fight about Bush though, cause I find her sleep inducing ; )Kate Bush has got 9 in her tritype for sure, but I think she could rather be 4w3, in the way she is trying to be all unique and different and stuff, but with a commercial edge.
Hm fair enough.
I think Björk is also a Type 4, but her tritype (479) makes her seem appear more sweet, also EII-Ne is rather childlike and that may add to that impression.
Not all Type 4s are always depressed and "dark", the really dark 4s are usually 468 tritype, the "soft" 4s are 479, and the in-between 4s are 471.
I agree on the tritype, but not the core (for both).
4s are depressed most of the time, yes. But it's not the only reason I dont think Björk is 4. She has a vibe around her that's not image focused. Or a great 'awareness' of it. And in this video, when she talks about singin is a way to "interract with her environment" (totally foreign to me because im not a gut type lol) it is very gut like and I think she's a 9w1 too.
Kate Bush is the same type. 947. Melanie Martinez is same tritype but 7 core, also sx/sp. =) Interesting stuff.
Last edited by maniac; 09-16-2016 at 02:03 PM.
No she's some kind of a P type and she's very expressive
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Observations:
-When asked to define logic, slips into Fe language about behaviors (i.e. Ti is "not being emotional" or behaving in a certain way)
-pretty decent at giving logically ordered answers
-sort of a spacey vibe, soft voice
-talks very easily about emotions
-tries to be very serious, measured, and thoughtful, but I get the impression that maybe this kind of formality is not a default state?
-hates surprises - probably subdued Ne
It's just a short video but IEI seems good to me.
princess, you may look at guys with different types and compare them by your psychic comfort
in beta you may to be only EIE, while EII is much more possible
the example of EII reminding you
IEI-Ni 4w3 so/sx
I don't think you're confrontational enough for sx/sp. IEI sx/sp 4 is a dark and aggressive four. the energy is laser-direct and intense. so/sx has a more diffusive energy.
Actually since this video I think I'm even more sx/sp. Would I think I was as a random person watching this video; I doubt it lol!! I have become more assertive as I've grown up.
There goes my impression. ESI. I can see the creative se gaze for sure (gulenko's demonstrative)20181118_012710.jpg
Also kate bush is ESI.
Closest matching photo attached. Alittle more strained though.
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U think i'm not an intuitive????!Also keep in mind that video of me is 2 years old! Watching it now I seem super wooden and awkward. Though I do get along with LIEs...
Last edited by summerprincess; 11-18-2018 at 03:42 PM.
You may make another video which you think as more representative.U think i'm not an intuitive????!
You noticed in the past that used sedative meds in near time that video was made. They supress emotions and their expressions.
It's possibly to be typed to any type. As not many ones have acceptable typing skills and the used typing methods allow significant % of errors. Especially when people use random heresies alike from Gulenko.
@summerprincess, I originally guessed that you might be ESI, based on your video and the fact that I find you subjectively attractive. (Don't worry - I'm not gonna call - Lol.) I think I might have been seeing Fi and Te-valuing, but it's hard to remember. As you said, the video is two years old, and at that time, I was typing every attractive female as either IEI or ESI.
Well, I have had more experience with many different types of people since then, and let me say that you bear a striking resemblance to an EII whom I work with. Not so much that you look like her (you look more IEI-ish, she looks more mannish), but rather that your eyes track like hers, your stares seem to duplicate hers, etc. My normal statement when I see this kind of thing is to say that the two of you are running the same software.
I don't know if you've ever considered EII for your type, but I'd be interested to know if you think it's a possibility.
The EII whom I know first typed herself as an e2, but then decided she was an e9. I mention this in case you might think that the resemblance is between enneagram types rather than Socionics types.
I don't have any videos of her, but you and she move-blink-stare-etc almost exactly alike.*
*EDIT
I should better explain what I see. Both you and she seem to have a background thought running that says "Why is this guy being a jerk, and why doesn't he get it?"
(Sentiments that are suited to either LSE's or SLE's, incidentally.)
Dunno if that helps at all.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 11-18-2018 at 04:02 PM.
What I think is irrelevant. Dont listen to me.U think i'm not an intuitive????!
I'm thinking that you should check out causal deterministic cognition style. You have very straightforward reasoning style which makes me think EII.
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"that time" still lastsat that time, I was typing every attractive female as either IEI or ESI.
While I supposed her as EII.
> Both you and she seem to have a background thought running that says "Why is this guy being a jerk, and why doesn't he get it?" (Sentiments that are suited to either LSE's or SLE's, incidentally.
duals are perceived better
EII. Consistent CD cognition.
Can people stop typing me using this video plssss
If you dislike it, why don't you delete the video?
Because I don't regret having it up but the video is 2 years old and I was basically an adolescent when it was made. I had just turned 20. Now I'm 22.5... I just don't think it's very useful to be typing me using it anymore. I like knowing everyone's past opinions though and of course I'm still the same person.If you dislike it, why don't you delete the video?
If you're the same person, won't it still produce results just as accurately?
No your type can look different as a teenager vs. as a fully fledged adult
Why
Could be something to it. Stereotyped behaviors more likely, brain not fully developed. When I think of how my IEI bff acted in high school vs now, she is extremely different.
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
To get more stable results in different situations needs better typing skills.
As the type is the same - type's related behavior is the same too, - the balance of functions' expression is kept, but mb lesser or more clear due to nontypes factors and your own skills to pay more attention on important details. There are kinds of behavior which have higher influence from other factors. Nonverbal type's behavior is more stable than common one.
Some lesser usual for types behavior will make it controversial. With good skills a human should not be typed to other type, anyway. The type should be lesser clear only.
Last edited by Sol; 11-20-2018 at 09:48 PM.
Pardon my rudeness but I couldnt hold it anymore.
You know? The highest an iei can go is to be a renowned auther. The highest an esi can go... look at audrey hepburn, attending one the most private parties of the roschield family.the richest and most powerful family in the world.
If you play to your strength you can get far and high, that is why we want to know who we truely are. but if you insist on walking a path that isnt yours, you will only get frustration and wasted effort, and you will not get another chance if you fail.
So please. Stop and listen for a while. Not to people, but to your inner voice. Who are you really? Only you would know for sure.
It was not good from the start. Check the thread.
I always thought I fit better in Beta due to my love of dark macabre things and the media I consume or have consumed in the past. I push peoples' boundaries. As an adult, I have started to somehow intimidate people which I never before thought possible. I'm learning to get along better with people too and not put my foot in my mouth... additionally as an adult I've become so much more assertive and forthright. I was very quiet and scared as a kid. I just see myself as this person who is still scared of doing so many physical, visceral things but I secretly (want to) take great delight in them. I wish I could be a sensation seeker. I may act offended by certain things, by violence or by "offensive" stuff but nothing much really gets to me.
Why do you think I am ESI? Your description of being Audrey Hepburn comingling with rich people sounds much more fun to me than just being an author, I must say that. I am super status conscious but I hide it....
Removed post until I am sure of my own type
Last edited by Hamada; 11-23-2018 at 02:53 PM.
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