Famous Narcs

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Jean-Luc Godard (start at 3:00)

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Reunites with his INFp ex who was still in love with him, handles it smugly and seems apathetic when she bursts into tears in front of him (start at 4:50):

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Morrissey



Rainer Werner Fassbinder

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Ayn Rand

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Donald Trump

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Subtypes:

Godard: Mainly Cerebral with some Somatic tendencies
Morrissey: Mainly Cerebral with some Somatic tendencies
Fassbinder: Somatic
Rand: Cerebral
Trump: Somatic

Description of the subtypes:

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal21.html

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Cody Wilson (Cerebral with some Somatic traits)

[ashlesha]

how do you know, suede?

[suedehead]

Well, I'm bulshitting mostly. A certain smug reticence, solipsistic conversational patterns and mannerisms, persistent patterns of unabashed self-obsession, sadism and selfishness throughout their lives, etc.

[Aylen]

I thought this thread was going to be about police informants. This guy will do for both types of "narcs". He narced on the mob, then, because he is such a narc he couldn't stay hidden in the witness protection program.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Gravano

I think Sammy was the beginning of the end of the American Mafia. Now they want to be reality stars.

However, in 1995 Gravano left Witness Protection and relocated to Scottsdale, Arizona. A Federal prosecutor later said that Gravano did not like the constraints of the program.^[13] Gravano began living very openly, giving interviews to magazines and appearing in a nationally televised interview with television journalist Diane Sawyer. He appeared on live TV after having had plastic surgery to hide his appearance from the mob. In one interview with author/journalist Howard Blum, Gravano boasted:

"They send a hit team down, I'll kill them. They better not miss, because even if they get me, there will still be a lot of body bags going back to New York. I'm not afraid. I don't have it in me. I'm too detached maybe. If it happens, fuck it. A bullet in the head is pretty quick. You go like that! It's better than cancer. I'm not meeting you in Montana on some fuckin' farm. I'm not sitting here like some jerk-off with a phony beard. I'll tell you something else: I'm a fuckin' pro. If someone comes to my house, I got a few little surprises for them. Even if they win, there might be surprises."

[suedehead]

I wonder if Decisive types are more likely to display narcissistic traits. It's only a small sample, but so far:

Godard: Se-ESI>ILI
Morrissey: Ni-EIE
Fassbinder: Ni-EIE
Ayn Rand: Beta ST
Trump: Ti-SLE
Cody Wilson: Ni-LIE
Sammy Gravano: VI's Beta

Others that I've consider posting but opted not to because I didn't find them interesting:

Kanye West: Fi-SEE
Justin Bieber: SEI
Lil Wayne: Ti-SLE
Rick Ross: SLE
Kim Kardashian: EIE or alpha SF

[suedehead]

Lol, yeah. My highschool crush was dating a Ti-ILE overt Narc, and he apparently went on an uncharacteristic rant about 'n-ggers' when she broke up with him.

[Jeremy8419]

Extroverted types are more likely to be overt while introverts are covert.

Mel Gibson, LSE.



I'm not sure if he's NPD or BPD or just has really bad anger issues tbh (though it sounds like it could be both from these recordings. He's coming from a place of inner pain), but this is an example of what abusive cluster b "rage" usually looks like.

His ex (who is most likely IEI) probably has covert narsissist traits. First off, she is a clear gold digger and opportunist (Mel was even married when she got with him) plus the fact that she had the ability to even put these recordings out to the public to ruin his reputation and profit from it, then lie about doing so honestly says a lot about her lack of empathy. It doesn't excuse the fact that Mel was clearly abusive towards her, but it is still a low blow to the father of your child. Then again, maybe she felt the need to record him to show the courts that Mel is a dangerous man and should not win custody of her child, then they got leaked by someone who got ahold of them... who knows.

Here are some clear examples of overt narcissism from Kanye West.

Fairly positive that Mel Gibson has anger management issues. That said, pride and anger always go hand in hand, and sorrow and humility go hand in hand.

[Dauphin]

John Lennon: ILE-Ne
Klaus Kinski: EIE (I can see either subtype)
Muammar Gaddafi: EIE-Fe
Saddam Hussein: LSI-Se

[malignantwench]

Morrisey is just a 4w3 not narc, lol. Plenty of 3w4s and 4w3s seem like narcs to most people.

[Metamorph]

I'm sure being famous is just the healthy expression of narcissism. Why else would you want everyone to look at you all the time? I want everyone to look at me all the time. Lots of people don't even care about fame and I don't think they're "worse" per se for it.
@AntiSchizoid

Are you here to stop the Crimson King and the 21st Century Schizoid Man?

[Dauphin]

@AntiSchizoid

Are you here to stop the Crimson King and the 21st Century Schizoid Man?

Nah, "anti-" as in "opposite" not "opposed to".
The name is meant to express a sort of inner contradiction of mine, I am both extremely emotional and completely unemotional, self-isolating and attention-seeking. I am schizoid as well as the polar opposite of schizoid.
Great song, though.