Sorry to disappoint, but I don't measure balls, even if they are Se ego.Originally Posted by Bertrand
Wait... did you just admit you have tiny balls?
Sorry to disappoint, but I don't measure balls, even if they are Se ego.
Wait... did you just admit you have tiny balls?
It's evident, Watson. SLE often cheat, IEI girls hit them at balls and those swell to become bigger.
What you described sounds more like a 7, they extrovert and look outside of theirselves to avoid being with the pain that's inside of them.
9s withdraw from other people because of different reasons. one is that they dont want to deal with others problems and conflicts (whereas a 7, and most likely 7 with a 8 fix, can find arguments exciting and fun, because it removes boredom and sadness), and another is that they risk getting chastized for something if they do whatever they want in company of other people, so its easier to be alone and just do whatever they want. This is how I've interpreted it anyway.
yesSorry to disappoint, but I don't measure balls, even if they are Se ego.
Wait... did you just admit you have tiny balls?
His words, not mine.
But he means it more as them being dead inside. They aren't necessarily sociable or hyperactive like 7s are.
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They're not dead inside lolHis words, not mine.
But he means it more as them being dead inside. They aren't necessarily sociable or hyperactive like 7s are.
I think he refers to them having a lack of "interiority," however that is to be interpreted. Or I've heard "asleep to themselves" from other authors as well.
I don't personally think that they're dead inside either, I was being tongue-in-cheek with that wording.
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LSI-Se 7 exists. You're wrong.
No, I mean 7w6You mean 6w7 LSI-Se ?
Yeah, they can often come across as 7 core.
No lolProbably a mistyped SLE then.
Enneagram needs another 7 descriptions to make 16
Otherwise we just have to put everyone else in E6
Counting wings you have 18.
Emotions vs Fe (for Advanced Dummies)
"Strategic" emotional expression (mainly through things like tone of voice, facial expressions, and "emotional charge") is, according to my understanding. Just being "emotional" doesn't make you Fe Ego (or Demonstrative). It's about the strategic use of emotional expression for certain goals. Those goals are usually tied to the person's Quadra (and instinctual stacking; make sure you can differentiate between the two, for Sx/So typically seems Beta without necessarily being so etc.). In that manner, non-Fe-valuing types also engage in Fe. Especially ExFps do so; but for them, the Fe is used for their Quadra values, which do not include Fe. With Fe Ego types, the Fe itself is part of their value system; so they use Fe for its own sake.
When you are just being "emotional", there is no particular strategy or goal attached to it. You cannot help yourself. You feel sad, you cry. You are happy, you laugh. But there is no "agenda" or strategy. That is not necessarily (strong) Fe, that is just having emotions. (Though it seems like IxTx-Tx individuals tend to feel "less" on a regular basis, so there is some correlation between weak Fe and "weak emotions". But I think this also depends on neuroticism levels; the higher your neuroticism, the more negative emotions you'll have on a regular basis, no matter your type.) On the other hand, Fe cries so that others cry with them; Fe laughs so that others laugh with them, etc. Fe tries to transfer to or conjure up specific emotions in other people strategically through the use of visible and/or audible emotional expression. And people who have strong Fe (ExFx) are the most skilled at doing so, with Fe leads being the most focused on it. They are in touch with people's emotions all the time; it is as if those emotions formed an energy field all around them, and the Fe lead person moves within it, trying to "turn on" or "turn off" certain areas, depending on what seems the most appropriate in the moment.
P.S: That "strategic" employment of Fe is largely coming naturally to Fe ego and particularly Lead types. It is not like they consciously try to be or act that way, they just "are" and do so.
Se and its psychological qualities
Se is not only about physical pressure or force, but also (or mainly?) about the psychological kind.
Strong -Se would be best at applying psychological pressure, whereas strong +Se is best at resisting it.
SLE vs SEE
Unstoppable force vs Immovable object
Note: Both SLE and SEE can use both + and - Se, but they favor one notation over the other.
If you want someone to make the enemy bow down to them, find an SLE.
If you want someone to resist the opposition's pressure, find an SEE.
Tell an SEE (or LSx-Sx) to do something they don't want to do. You'll bite on granite.
Tell an SLE (or ESx-Sx) they cannot do something they wanna do. They'll do anything to prove you wrong and do it anyway.
Type 9 clue
If you are prone to adapting to people (friends, romantic partners, parents etc.),
for example in the form of adopting their interests or somewhat morphing your personality to fits theirs,
you are most likely 9 fix and/or wing.
The more so, the 'higher up' the 9 is in your tritype.
Type 3 coat
Lol xD good thread. You should create a blog about socionics because it's hard to read backwards xDD
Oh crap. That's cool! You actually do that?? 😂 thanks
Flirting Game
The way someone flirts is gonna reveal which IEs they value; and if you are very observant, also whether they are a static or dynamic type.
Let's play a game. Can you guess their type?
All of them have no good basis to be used. Too far from the core Jung's theory and without significant experimental basis. There are many hypotheses of similar status. Reinin's traits became popular mostly because they were described by Augustinavichiute where she said it's rather raw. There was Lytov's article about them. They need experimental basis to be taken seriously.
> I kind of like the idea behind them.
It's better to avoid so doubtful theory on practice - you'll risk lesser to mistake because it may be wrong partly or completely.
Jung's dichotomies and 8 functions, model A, and IR are enough.
I gotta admit, I enjoyed learning about Reinin dichotomies when they were new to me, but in practice I never use them because they're too sketchy to be more helpful than misleading. they're basically an interesting novelty but you can do everything they do (at present) better via other means, namely typing
I was going through multiple socionics articles about the same topic, written by 6 different experts.... and well I realized one thing: the best (?) thing in socionics is that none agrees on anything.
Introduction in MBTI terms
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that guy rules
If you say to a girl about wrong type in her profile and she becomes angry, there is good chance she types her lover to dual of that type.
If this girl changes the type in her profile after time, then probably she's in new relations.
people can either retype everyone around them or retype themselves, the bottom line is they're adjusting their worldview based on new perceptions (the irrational method). and the third way is the gulenko/sol method which is to create an entirely new typology (rational). its not that people don't update their worldview its how they prefer to go about it. im tired about the complaints that this happens, it can't not happen if you're paying attention. everyone does it, it boils back down to preference as to how. that people try to understand themselves and others at all is the therapeutic value of socionics and its what unites everyone here
Socionics for dummies literally is just MBTI. So this fits.Introduction in MBTI terms
MBT was Jung dummies from the start, which even can't understand what Jung have written about functional model of introverts
Do you complain a lot at work and about work?
You might be delta.
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If a girl guy whatever asked me my mbti, it would be like yeah no this isnt going.
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