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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    To be that political is a beta trait. Betas are collectivists and passionate. Very us vs them.

    Alphas are not like this.

    Based on my own experience now being typed and recognizing Ni-HA, imo this is very true:

    Hidden agendas


    ENTp, ESTp => to be loved
    INTj, INFj => to be healthy
    ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect
    ISFp, INFp => to understand
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    ISTj, ISFj => to believe
    ESFp, ENFp => to know
    INTp, ISTp => to love
    It's not only betas who are political. You can't seriously believe this. Is every single politician a beta type in your mind? I know betas with no political ambition. Politics isn't us vs them, I simply see it as an expression of power, who controls the narrative. That's fascinating to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    It's not only betas who are political. You can't seriously believe this. Is every single politician a beta type in your mind? I know betas with no political ambition. Politics isn't us vs them, I simply see it as an expression of power, who controls the narrative. That's fascinating to me.
    See quadra description: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-socioniks-net

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    This means nothing to me dude. So I guess this is what Ne PoLR must feel like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    This means nothing to me dude. So I guess this is what Ne PoLR must feel like
    Lets just say there is a reason H!tler is EIE and Stalin is LSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Lets just say there is a reason H!tler is EIE and Stalin is LSI.
    Get back to me when you can actually interpret theory than just cite one off examples and be like "welp clearly a box is a box. Why think deeper about it amirite."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    Get back to me when you can actually interpret theory than just cite one off examples and be like "welp clearly a box is a box. Why think deeper about it amirite."
    Don't be intellectually lazy. Do your own research, use that intuition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Don't be intellectually lazy. Do your own research, use that intuition.
    LMFAO thanks that really brightens my day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    Lmao. What is it for LII then? What am I seeking?
    You're seeking the ability to

    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Stfu.
    When you clearly can't even be bothered to understand even the base line soconics sources he's posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    This means nothing to me dude. So I guess this is what Ne PoLR must feel like
    In any case, both you you can tone down your own arrogance in this thread. It's not leading to anything constructive besides you own enjoyment of your trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    You're seeking the ability to



    When you clearly can't even be bothered to understand even the base line soconics sources he's posting.



    In any case, both you you can tone down your own arrogance in this thread. It's not leading to anything constructive besides you own enjoyment of your trolling.
    Look, I don't want to antagonize you. I'm sorry, I didn't realize how I came across. But when have I trolled on the forum? How can you say that when there's an entire history of me making long, well thought out posts and engaging with people in a constructive way on the forum? I understand what you're saying. I just thought I was responding "in kind" to the treatment I got. That's all.

    Edit: Also I feel like I need to disclaimer that nothing I say is meant to be offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyre View Post
    I think what he's saying is that Betas are the most politically passionate / passionately political. Which is why they're willing to go to such extremes to prove a point with their politics with different measures, whether it's humanities, art, humor, literature, so on.
    Thanks for clarifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    Look, I don't want to antagonize you. I'm sorry, I didn't realize how I came across. But when have I trolled on the forum? How can you say that when there's an entire history of me making long, well thought out posts and engaging with people in a constructive way on the forum? I understand what you're saying. I just thought I was responding "in kind" to the treatment I got. That's all.

    Edit: Also I feel like I need to disclaimer that nothing I say is meant to be offensive.
    You're chill dude, but whenever someone makes a type-me thread with links, at least bother to read them. Don't be like meh what you say means nothing to me. If you don't agree to their type, haven't read their posts, and have nothing constructive to add, then why post anything? Unless you want to shitpost for lolz and troll. Help to understand your responses on here in some different light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Panda View Post
    Edit: Also I feel like I need to disclaimer that nothing I say is meant to be offensive.
    Even the offensive shit is "just jokes" and "kindness". Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    You're chill dude, but whenever someone makes a type-me thread with links, at least bother to read them. Don't be like meh what you say means nothing to me. If you don't agree to their type, haven't read their posts, and have nothing constructive to add, then why post anything? Unless you want to shitpost for lolz and troll. Help to understand your responses on here in some different light.
    I wanted to understand OP's perspective on HA, which is why I asked the question of what is my HA. I thought it was fairly clear that I was not satisfied with the level of detail they responded with. They have also been flippant and dismissive of me in the past, so I got annoyed because I saw this as a repetition of that. But yeah, I'm agreeing with you. It's not the right way to behave. I mean, there's no need to drag things up from previous threads. That's just toxic af and I acknowledge it.


    Even the offensive shit is "just jokes" and "kindness". Gotcha.
    I never said it was just jokes or kindness. I'm actually admitting to a mistake and apologizing. I don't think I am usually an offensive person. If so, I don't mind being corrected. I don't exactly thrive in a shit posting environment. If I have any control over my own behaviour, I won't do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyre View Post
    I think what he's saying is that Betas are the most politically passionate / passionately political. Which is why they're willing to go to such extremes to prove a point with their politics with different measures, whether it's humanities, art, humor, literature, so on.
    I have an uncle in Hungary, he is the mayor of this smol-ish town, the man has a lot of pathos, but not the most logical guy.. Xd when we get together for a drink.. its 100% going to end up in a heated political discussion and I ain't talking random political arguments at the family get-together. when him and his LII wife come to Romania for a visit, we always drink & argue politics late into the night.. I always considered him ESE tho.

    e_e I'm holding it in.. so to say on the forums here, sometimes stuff slips. Idk, I just like arguing politics, its fun, well as long as the other side has similar attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post

    Hidden agendas


    ENTp, ESTp => to be loved
    INTj, INFj => to be healthy
    ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect
    ISFp, INFp => to understand
    ENFj, ENTj => to be wealthy
    ISTj, ISFj => to believe
    ESFp, ENFp => to know
    INTp, ISTp => to love
    I've seen that before, but most of these feel intuitively off, like they were meant to be a caricature. Cause honestly, couldn't all of those traits apply to any type?

    I'd go with something more like
    ENTp, ESTp => needs emotional engagement
    INTj, INFj => impression seeking
    ESFj, ESTj => seeks new potentials
    ISFp, INFp => wants to simplify problems
    ENFj, ENTj => wants to engage
    ISTj, ISFj => seeks to know what's intuitively going on
    ESFp, ENFp => needs to deal with everything personally
    INTp, ISTp => Seeks people with shared values

    cause that makes more sense to me. An ENFp would have a hard time simplifying their problems (Ti polr) when they need to deal with everything personally (Te).

    An INTp would have a hard time emotionally engaging people (Fe polr) when they seek those with shared values.

    etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    I've seen that before, but most of these feel intuitively off, like they were meant to be a caricature. Cause honestly, couldn't all of those traits apply to any type?

    I'd go with something more like
    ENTp, ESTp => needs emotional engagement
    INTj, INFj => impression seeking
    ESFj, ESTj => seeks new potentials
    ISFp, INFp => wants to simplify problems
    ENFj, ENTj => wants to engage
    ISTj, ISFj => seeks to know what's intuitively going on
    ESFp, ENFp => needs to deal with everything personally
    INTp, ISTp => Seeks people with shared values

    cause that makes more sense to me. An ENFp would have a hard time simplifying their problems (Ti polr) when they need to deal with everything personally (Te).

    An INTp would have a hard time emotionally engaging people (Fe polr) when they seek those with shared values.

    etc.
    Lol I have no idea why engagement is called love. Hence I can not relate to hidden agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    I've seen that before, but most of these feel intuitively off, like they were meant to be a caricature. Cause honestly, couldn't all of those traits apply to any type?
    They are simplistic, yes. Didn't bother to expand them.

    I'd go with something more like
    ENTp, ESTp => needs emotional engagement
    INTj, INFj => impression seeking
    ESFj, ESTj => seeks new potentials
    ISFp, INFp => wants to simplify problems
    ENFj, ENTj => wants to engage
    ISTj, ISFj => seeks to know what's intuitively going on
    ESFp, ENFp => needs to deal with everything personally
    INTp, ISTp => Seeks people with shared values
    For me its more like I need meaning, to believe in something greater than myself and I'm not capable of providing it, but I also mistakenly think I'm good at Ni.. :-P. I like ppl who have a clear vision regarding these things.

    cause that makes more sense to me. An ENFp would have a hard time simplifying their problems (Ti polr) when they need to deal with everything personally (Te).
    How I understood the SLI - IEE dynamic was that when the SLI runs out of standard options the IEE provides more unusual alternative solutions to maneuver around it. Its why IEE is called the "Advisor". Otherwise same thing as with the SEE-ILI relationship regarding Fi HA.

    An INTp would have a hard time emotionally engaging people (Fe polr) when they seek those with shared values.

    etc.
    Ye, ILIs have Fi HA, Fe is kinda frustrating for ILIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    You're seeking the ability to



    When you clearly can't even be bothered to understand even the base line soconics sources he's posting.



    In any case, both you you can tone down your own arrogance in this thread. It's not leading to anything constructive besides you own enjoyment of your trolling.
    You are the one not posting anything constructive here and being equally if not more arrogant towards us lol. “You’re seeking the ability to” literally makes no sense.

    You have no basis to believe that I don’t understand his sources. In fact I eventually stated that I agreed, so your comment here is just pointless drama stirring.

    Again, not a particularly constructive way of moderating.

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    Honestly what I attributed to Ne base at first, when I said ILE for you, might as well be Ne polr/low N in general. The thing about reading any description and saying yeah that relates to me, without questioning what it might mean in a broader context or how it might connect/apply to your life.

    also I'm lol at "This subtype takes good care of the ladies." from gulenko's book, but it's honestly true from what i've observed of LSIs and not out of place lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    also I'm lol at "This subtype takes good care of the ladies." from gulenko's book, but it's honestly true from what i've observed of LSIs and not out of place lmfao
    Yeah I highly doubt that this is true about @shotgunfingers so I’m still pretty skeptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Yeah I highly doubt that this is true about @shotgunfingers so I’m still pretty skeptical.
    That is LSI C which is what shotgun could aspire to as self-development. The H subtype desc has not been posted here yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    He is or was pretty erratic and emotional and trolly too, so fine.
    Pot meet kettle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Financial View Post
    Pot meet kettle.
    This comment cracked me up. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Financial View Post
    Pot meet kettle.
    lmao.. kore wa yakkaida..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Financial View Post
    Pot meet kettle.
    <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synchrony View Post
    The Beta ST love is just overflowing...
    It’s less than three (Stalin, Mussolini, Putin)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synchrony View Post
    the best type of sadomasochistic love... Putin is going to die off soon enough. What are we gonna do with ourselves then???
    Cue topless Trump on a horse coming in to save the day.



    Not all agree that he’s SLE but he’ll have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Cue topless Trump on a horse coming in to save the day.



    Not all agree that he’s SLE but he’ll have to do.
    You have good taste xD

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    I understand now why Stalin killed his enemies.. .. ya'all are staying ignored


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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Quoting Gulenko:

    The conclusion

    So, the type of respondent is a balanced-stable temperament in the management installation - LSI (Inspector) of a harmonizing subtype. Characteristic feature of such personality: a long search for yourself, philosophical reflection on life, depression control, loyalty, a sense of lost harmony and the desire to regain it.

    ----------------------------------------------

    Imo.. it makes sense.
    Of course it makes sense! Forer-effect type descriptions such as the one Gulenko gave you always make sense. Or so they seem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    well considering my taste in art is Beta and I like the quadra, it would have been weird to be something else lmao.. e_e its telling even by my weird political perspectives and enjoyment of mystical Ni-ish things+Fe.
    So if I understand correctly, a Delta such as myself cannot be into synthwave music? You are making a caricature out of the Beta quadra and Socionics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synchrony View Post
    Once he settles down into his typing, he will be less caricaturish about it. He's just excited and there seems to be pressure to prove his typing. But from what I can tell, he seems very comfortable with his typing more than ever before.
    Yeah, this feels similar to when I figured out I'm type 6 and not a 4 or an 8.

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    @shotgunfingers

    I admit when I first watched your video, it was hard to figure out if you were beta or delta sorta so I just sorta figured alpha ILE maybe to split the difference as it seemed Fe over Fi. I related to you liking some rpgs, and you share this kind of 'beta male' loyalty thing that I myself also have lol. I think ur culture tho can confuse a lot of this, but I think when I think about you, you do have very similar thinking processes to me in a way under neath it all- even though we express ourselves differently and have different goals/outcome. It feels 'closer' to me in a way that ILE doesn't.

    It also to me feels like maybe you grew up in a delta-ish area growing up and that influenced you heavily to not totally be yourself and gave you a bit of an identity crisis, I don't know yet but just a theory I have. You were a Beta, but the air around you in your videos felt like something else. Culture/environment does have a part to play in who we are, we aren't 'just ourselves' in a vacuum. Looking at your underlying thinking processes behind all this stuff, I can see u being beta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    @shotgunfingers

    I admit when I first watched your video, it was hard to figure out if you were beta or delta sorta so I just sorta figured alpha ILE maybe to split the difference as it seemed Fe over Fi. I related to you liking some rpgs, and you share this kind of 'beta male' loyalty thing that I myself also have lol. I think ur culture tho can confuse a lot of this, but I think when I think about you, you do have very similar thinking processes to me in a way under neath it all- even though we express ourselves differently and have different goals/outcome. It feels 'closer' to me in a way that ILE doesn't.

    It also to me feels like maybe you grew up in a delta-ish area growing up and that influenced you heavily to not totally be yourself and gave you a bit of an identity crisis, I don't know yet but just a theory I have. You were a Beta, but the air around you in your videos felt like something else. Culture/environment does have a part to play in who we are, we aren't 'just ourselves' in a vacuum. Looking at your underlying thinking processes behind all this stuff, I can see u being beta.
    IMO on the forums we go by a lot of stereotypes, which leads to people not being typed correctly. We don't consider that in real life people are not caricatures.

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    i think beta makes sense... i still have my iei suspicions but lsi is, in a way, close... TiNi shared by both... it's true that you Ti a lot... it's just i would think Ti HA would Ti a lot too

    (although i don't necessarily think politics is that relevant per se... as in i think one can find authoritarian leaning sorts in all the quadras)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Fine I can see LSI, but I really don’t like it. You are not a stereotypical LSI.

    Come to think of it, there was another guy on here who typed as ILE for a while then changed to LSI: @Desert Financial . He is or was pretty erratic and emotional and trolly too, so fine.
    He's the first supposed LSI who doesn't hit my subconscious. I mean, they always tickle my brain in a way that catches my interest. With him, it's just like, I agree with what he says but I doesnt' seem like reliable logical conclusions. Also I don't get the confidence that I feel from LSI that I have supposedly met so far.

    I mean, If I were to type him by comparing ITR with other LSI, I'd say he's far from LSI.

    Nothing against his personality. I've talked to him once and he's more mature than it may look at first.
    Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
    Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
    Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
    Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
    Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    He's the first supposed LSI who doesn't hit my subconscious. I mean, they always tickle my brain in a way that catches my interest. With him, it's just like, I agree with what he says but I doesnt' seem like reliable logical conclusions. Also I don't get the confidence that I feel from LSI that I have supposedly met so far.

    I mean, If I were to type him by comparing ITR with other LSI, I'd say he's far from LSI.

    Nothing against his personality. I've talked to him once and he's more mature than it may look at first.
    Yeah people like @Northstar who is Ep act way more Ij than shotgunfingers does.

    Or you or myself and 99% of the other people on this forum for that matter. But highlighting that difference makes it seem more absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Yeah people like @Northstar who is Ep act way more Ij than shotgunfingers does.

    Or you or myself and 99% of the other people on this forum for that matter. But highlighting that difference makes it seem more absurd.
    Forum behavior is not a reliable indicator of temperament though, real life behavior is.

    Shotgun is the guy who is never late for work, goes to sleep on time, has had the same job most of his adult life, drives the same humble car, lives in the same house and generally just has a stable real life.

    In comparison, I’ve moved 20+ times, had several jobs, one of which I quit on the spot soon after a big raise to move into another country where I didn’t have a job waiting, living on some freelance work including physical labor at a race horse stable until I found work fitting my degree. Yeah, I did get my master’s eventually but only after fucking around not properly studying for 15 years while working on the side. I do impulsive unplanned shit all the time in real life and keep no stable schedule, showing up at work when I feel like it, sleeping in if once again I stayed up too late. I’ve owned 30 different cars, changing them on impulse and not caring if I lose some money in the process or have to drive like a maniac through the night on a moment’s notice to do the trade.

    Basically, I write coherently here but act impulsively in real life. Many signs point to the opposite for shotgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    He's the first supposed LSI who doesn't hit my subconscious. I mean, they always tickle my brain in a way that catches my interest. With him, it's just like, I agree with what he says but I doesnt' seem like reliable logical conclusions. Also I don't get the confidence that I feel from LSI that I have supposedly met so far.

    I mean, If I were to type him by comparing ITR with other LSI, I'd say he's far from LSI.

    Nothing against his personality. I've talked to him once and he's more mature than it may look at first.
    I checked what Russian socionists consider as Ti and it seems to be as simple as Ti egos being at ease with encountering logical structure. They just get right in there and figure it out. Even if the individual may have low IQ and it is difficult for him/her to figure things out, as long as that individual has no inhibition or worries and toys with the structure right away.. it means its in their ego. Basically confidence with Ti.

    Based on my 40 minutes of video I sent in, Gulenko wrote this:

    Installation (activity orientation)

    Logic is more than ethics

    The respondent is good at systematization and comprehension of complex information. He approaches everything that happens from the logical point of view - he tries to find regularities and draw reasonable conclusions. When memorizing, he relies on connections between the data to build a biger picture. He is good at solving problems where there is a system, including technical ones.
    Judging by his facial expressions, his smile is more like a role smile, i.e. consciously represented. Perhaps, he is learning some communication techniques on purpose. Emotions rarely capture him to such an extent that he loses self-control.

    Sensing is more than intuition

    In favor of the sensing is evidenced by his ability to watch his appearance, to look neat when he leaves the house. It is important for him to be perceived good by others. He is also quite observant, and thanks to his attention to detail, he determines what happened to a person by his/her facial expressions and body language.
    His mood does not change by itself, but depends on his physical condition, for example, he is hungry or full, tired or rested. He goes in for sports not to win competitions, but for health. This is evidence in favor of introverted sensing. You can also see the micro-mimicry of disgust on his face, which is also associated with this function.
    The respondent noted a great contrast between himself and the girl he met when he was 24 years old. This contrast also relates to the dependence on external evaluation. Compared to a girl who has a distracted and intuitive psyche, he looks like a sensor who monitors his current position, he needs feedback to correct his mistakes.
    In extreme situations, he may also develop a power sensing. The respondent is ready to defend himself in conflicts. In states of anger, he may show aggression, for example, he may break equipment.

    The logic with the sensing gives the technical and managerial installation for the activity.

    Temperament

    Introversion is more than extraversion

    The respondent describes himself as not a very sociable person who has difficulty gaining popularity. At parties, he makes a barbecue instead of active communication. His inner world of reflections and perceptions is much richer than external activity, what is typical for introverts.
    In public, he feels anxious and uncertain. It is much better when he is in the middle of a crowd and does not stand out from it. Among his hobbies, introverted activities prevail - reading, films, computer games, individual sports.

    Rationality is more than irrationality

    This parameter is the hardest to determine.
    Let's see how the respondent's mental process is organized. The logic of the respondent precedes the sensing. Before implementing something, he will analyze and plan. This is how the psyche of rationality is organized. Irrationalists act more spontaneously and according to the situation, rather than consistently and according to some strategy.

    Besides, the respondent notes that knowledge is not stored in his memory in an orderly manner. Since internal communication and presentation of accumulated data in a more chaotic form what corresponds to the second function rather than the first one, the assumption about rational organization of the respondent's psyche is confirmed. Logic processes and gives solutions to the outer world, quickly addressing the data accumulated by the sensing. The first function (logic) can be compared to the processor, and the second function (sensing) to memory. This is a mental circuit that is used by the logic-sensor types.

    This temperament is called balanced-stable.

    But if the respondent was rational, why is he messy? It is also not very clear where he got his melancholic states from. We will find the answer to this question in his subtype.

    Subtype

    What can we say about his subtype? - The most probable subtype in DCNH system is the fourth one, i.e. harmonizing (H).
    This is evidenced, firstly, by his distantness (thoughtfulness, initial detachment, unwillingness to actively intervene in conflict situations) and, secondly, by the lesser orderliness of everyday life with a greater interest in change, rather than routine (initiality).
    Distantness combined with initiality just gives a harmonizing subtype. But it becomes clear from the interview that the respondent has changed significantly over time. He develops the qualities of contactness - more emotionality and sociability, as well as ease going. If these efforts are supported, for example, by friends, family, etc., it is possible over time to move to a creative subtype.

    The conclusion

    So, the type of respondent is a balanced-stable temperament in the management installation - LSI (Inspector) of a harmonizing subtype. Characteristic feature of such personality: a long search for yourself, philosophical reflection on life, depression control, loyalty, a sense of lost harmony and the desire to regain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Forum behavior is not a reliable indicator of temperament though, real life behavior is.

    Shotgun is the guy who is never late for work, goes to sleep on time, has had the same job most of his adult life, drives the same humble car, lives in the same house and generally just has a stable real life.

    In comparison, I’ve moved 20+ times, had several jobs, one of which I quit on the spot soon after a big raise to move into another country where I didn’t have a job waiting, living on some freelance work including physical labor at a race horse stable until I found work fitting my degree. Yeah, I did get my master’s eventually but only after fucking around not properly studying for 15 years while working on the side. I do impulsive unplanned shit all the time in real life and keep no stable schedule, showing up at work when I feel like it, sleeping in if once again I stayed up too late. I’ve owned 30 different cars, changing them on impulse and not caring if I lose some money in the process or have to drive like a maniac through the night on a moment’s notice to do the trade.

    Basically, I write coherently here but act impulsively in real life. Many signs point to the opposite for shotgun.
    mirror relationship makes complete sense with you tbh. From the start here on the forum thats what it was. I'm certain you are SLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyre View Post
    In all honesty, I do think it's unreliable for people to type via ITR unless they've had the experience under their belt, which Gulenko certainly does. I've seen people on here type fleeting crushes as duals or activities, but then after the crush does something they think "No, they were my conflictor/super-ego" or "Nope, I was mistyped". Same goes for when they meet someone out of their quadra, but then they realize they have a crush on them so they type themselves as being in the same quadra (sometimes, the pair will both do this).

    Emotional bias tends to get in the way, is what I'm getting at.
    It's easy to recognize other duals once you have experienced duality though. This also applies to any type of cognition. Some types have a certain cognition that one can easily identify after some time.
    Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
    Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
    Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
    Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
    Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!

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