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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    I remember speaking with a clear INFJ who stated INFP, in his experience, were actually more organized in their physical environment. INFP do try to place emphasis on Te (MBTI) things when stressed as you know and they have Si tertiary. I guess they suck at it, but value it. INFJ seem to potentially live in a more Ni-Ti realm (MBTI, I know there are differences), and may be more detached from reality than INFP.
    hence creeper vibes lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by onfireee View Post
    @shotgunfingers @thegreenfaerie

    its yo IEI jam


    also,

    go to the grocery store and buy some roses.

    then yall sit at the picnic table and gaze up at the stars, as your tears drop and evap into the wilderness
    Damn, that sounds boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by onfireee View Post
    @shotgunfingers what about this description



    damn so deep and emo *lol*

    u should play some sad music in the background while reading it
    Idk, all descriptions seem to be describing something vague to which I can only partially relate. Prefer to just stick to model A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Damn, that sounds boring.



    Idk, all descriptions seem to be describing something vague to which I can only partially relate. Prefer to just stick to model A.
    i think a lot of people share your opinion.

    u could also be a less creeper EII/ or cool/reformed EII

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    @shotgunfingers

    u ever watch the show jersey shore? do u think u could hang out with people like that or would it make u uncomfortable being up in people's faces or would you be encouraged by it?



    the illustration is a bit overkill (i know) but its to drive a point home

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    Quote Originally Posted by onfireee View Post
    @shotgunfingers

    u ever watch the show jersey shore? do u think u could hang out with people like that ?
    No, that's just drama for attention, annoying. Those ppl are pathetic.
    I know of the show, I don't watch it. Tbh I don't watch TV or Netflix or anything similar either. Have stopped following what comes out of Hollywood around 2015 as well.. because its just trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    No, that's just drama for attention, annoying. Those ppl are pathetic.
    I know of the show, I don't watch it. Tbh I don't watch TV or Netflix or anything similar either. Have stopped following what comes out of Hollywood around 2015 as well.. because its just trash.
    I've never seen that show and I hope I never do

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    No, that's just drama for attention, annoying. Those ppl are pathetic.
    I know of the show, I don't watch it. Tbh I don't watch TV or Netflix or anything similar either. Have stopped following what comes out of Hollywood around 2015 as well.. because its just trash.
    interesting

    i do have a question what forms of power do u respect if u don't mind me asking

    I won't jump to conclusions but i'll keep observing *creeper smile*

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    I've never seen that show and I hope I never do
    wowwwwwww no gym tan laundry?????

    come onnnnnnnnnnn

    i bet ur just a new pair of sneakers w/o being broken in

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    Quote Originally Posted by onfireee View Post
    interesting

    i do have a question what forms of power do u respect if u don't mind me asking

    I won't jump to conclusions but i'll keep observing *creeper smile*
    The kind of power I'd respect is in short supply these days. To get a general theme of it, here:






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    @shotgunfingers taking a page outta @Rebelondeck

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    EII vs IEI
    moralist vs believer
    passive aggressive vs defensive
    detached vs engaged
    not a true team player vs team player
    self-conscious vs image-conscious
    opinionated vs flexible
    formal vs casual
    conviction vs go with the flow
    breadth vs narrow focus
    planned vs seat of the pants
    closer vs opener
    arranged vs cluttered
    wanting meaning vs wanting closure...................

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    @onfireee idk, all I know is the bugman life is not for me. Everything I do, everything I learn and know is geared towards the single purpose: survive, overcome, outlast, out-breed. Whatever it takes, will be done. Can't say more than that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    @onfireee idk, all I know is the bugman life is not for me. Everything I do, everything I learn and know is geared towards the single purpose: survive, overcome, outlast, out-breed. Whatever it takes, will be done. Can't say more than that.

    that doesn't sound much like any NF type to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    @onfireee idk, all I know is the bugman life is not for me. Everything I do, everything I learn and know is geared towards the single purpose: survive, overcome, outlast, out-breed. Whatever it takes, will be done. Can't say more than that.

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    Sounds like beta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Sounds like beta.
    Maybe that's what is is. I don't relate lol

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    Out-breed.... dude even while you are a male you're gonna loose to Genghis Khan with this pace of yours.
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    I can't tell if this constantly fine-tuning your MBTI type to meet your wildly changing Sociotype (which is bunk imo since MBTI is so broken how is it going to convert to Socionics) is 6-ish behavior, or if this could be taken as truly Fe-ish behavior. Seems more like Ne to me, "Lets consider all possible phenomena even if I don't like it". I've never seen a socionics text say "this is the function you like the most" since it's about preference and how much you use them iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    Maybe that's what is is. I don't relate lol
    Hm.. well. Maybe this sounds corny, but to me life is basically war or struggle and I aim to maintain my autonomy almost at all costs. To give into pressure would mean to be weak and I like strength in all it's forms, so giving up or giving in is non negotiable.

    I don't consider poetry for example to be weak, far from it. There are many great works of literature I actually enjoy.. i'm just not good at that stuff so I don't bother producing any myself.

    I have felt aimless for a long time, it took a while to form a coherent worldview, to gather information, find meaning and to figure out my place in life. I'd consider figuring out my personality type to be an important piece in the puzzle, something I can work with, a pattern I can use to understand myself better, something to add to the guiding "vision".

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    Out-breed.... dude even while you are a male you're gonna loose to Genghis Khan with this pace of yours.
    Lmao. Its just an example. There is no afterlife man, that makes family and kids the most important goal. Otherwise I'm just a hedonist wanker leading a pointless life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pirouette View Post
    I can't tell if this constantly fine-tuning your MBTI type to meet your wildly changing Sociotype (which is bunk imo since MBTI is so broken how is it going to convert to Socionics) is 6-ish behavior, or if this could be taken as truly Fe-ish behavior. Seems more like Ne to me, "Lets consider all possible phenomena even if I don't like it". I've never seen a socionics text say "this is the function you like the most" since it's about preference and how much you use them iirc.
    Idk, imo irrational intuitive always made sense. T-F functions I have no idea about. Beta quadra makes sense. I seem Ne-ish, but I don't have wide ranging divergent interests that I compartmentalize. What I know is all somehow interconnected and useful. You are not going to find me learning something just because its interesting.

    I'm into technology, philosophy, politics, I'm a frugal asshole who can sleep even on the floor if he has to (for years), but I never really bother with details unless I'm forced to. Doing accounting is boring and I fall asleep (why I hire someone to do that for me)...e_e but I was always gr8 at math and geometry regardless. Literature? Absolute fail there, also almost no interest in that area.

    I don't know, so far I have understood the theory, but how I fit.. beats me. Some kind of Beta type, probably irrational intuitive, means IEI.

    Sleep time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Hm.. well. Maybe this sounds corny, but to me life is basically war or struggle and I aim to maintain my autonomy almost at all costs. To give into pressure would mean to be weak and I like strength in all it's forms, so giving up or giving in is non negotiable.

    I don't consider poetry for example to be weak, far from it. There are many great works of literature I actually enjoy.. i'm just not good at that stuff so I don't bother producing any myself.

    I have felt aimless for a long time, it took a while to form a coherent worldview, to gather information, find meaning and to figure out my place in life. I'd consider figuring out my personality type to be an important piece in the puzzle, something I can work with, a pattern I can use to understand myself better, something to add to the guiding "vision".



    Lmao. Its just an example. There is no afterlife man, that makes family and kids the most important goal. Otherwise I'm just a hedonist wanker leading a pointless life.



    Idk, imo irrational intuitive always made sense. T-F functions I have no idea about. Beta quadra makes sense. I seem Ne-ish, but I don't have wide ranging divergent interests that I compartmentalize. What I know is all somehow interconnected and useful. You are not going to find me learning something just because its interesting.

    I'm into technology, philosophy, politics, I'm a frugal asshole who can sleep even on the floor if he has to (for years), but I never really bother with details unless I'm forced to. Doing accounting is boring and I fall asleep (why I hire someone to do that for me)...e_e but I was always gr8 at math and geometry regardless. Literature? Absolute fail there, also almost no interest in that area.

    I don't know, so far I have understood the theory, but how I fit.. beats me. Some kind of Beta type, probably irrational intuitive, means IEI.

    Sleep time.
    That doesn't sound much like Si-valuing, you're right there. However, it is possible you are good at manipulating yourself to fit whatever you are relating to most at the moment, I have been guilty of this myself and of being manipulated too easily by others/not following my own insight about myself. I do know an IEI (likely, beta for sure) male who is very frugal and lives in a hoard (his job is "flipping"). I could never live how he does. He is also more aggressive than the average IEI. He could be an EIE harmonizing or something, someone suggested EIE, so Si PoLr. Anyway, I do know of a beta who doesn't seem to care much about his living environment and is so frugal he'd rather eat old ass food from the food share even though he has an inheritance. He is also extremely political.

    Conversely, my EIE father would probably look down on someone like him in many ways. He already implied that said person's job is immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    That doesn't sound much like Si-valuing, you're right there. However, it is possible you are good at manipulating yourself to fit whatever you are relating to most at the moment, I have been guilty of this myself and of being manipulated too easily by others/not following my own insight about myself. I do know an IEI (likely, beta for sure) male who is very frugal and lives in a hoard (his job is "flipping"). I could never live how he does. He is also more aggressive than the average IEI. He could be an EIE harmonizing or something, someone suggested EIE, so Si PoLr. Anyway, I do know of a beta who doesn't seem to care much about his living environment and is so frugal he'd rather eat old ass food from the food share even though he has an inheritance. He is also extremely political.

    Conversely, my EIE father would probably look down on someone like him in many ways. He already implied that said person's job is immoral.
    why would buying property, rehabbing & selling it again for profit be immoral?
    It sounds like the guy understands assets & liabilities. Figures, anyone with a large inheritance should have that included in their basic education by their parents. Housing market crash is a perfect opportunity to buy property cheap, w8 for the market to recover and then sell. The current crisis is a good example, many ppl with cash-flow to burn buy assets at this point or when the market is theoretically bottoming out.

    Boom-bust cycles basically make the rich richer and the poor poorer for this very reason. Resource accumulation in the hands of the few is inevitable under unchecked capitalism .. I guess thats immoral if you look at it that way. I may yet agree with your dad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    why would buying property, rehabbing & selling it again for profit be immoral?
    It sounds like the guy understands assets & liabilities. Figures, anyone with a large inheritance should have that included in their basic education by their parents. Housing market crash is a perfect opportunity to buy property cheap, w8 for the market to recover and then sell.
    If you call bin diving at Goodwill buying property lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    If you call bin diving at Goodwill buying property lol
    e_e ok thats gross. Would never do that. Flipping property or digital assets, sure.

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    Se-Ni: Active - focused on what is (Se) and what will occur (Ni). Uses current events to hypothesize future outcomes, and figures out how to affect change based on present catalysts. Doesn’t prioritize belonging or experiences, Prioritizes impact.

    Fe-Ti: Objective - Focused on what’s fair for everyone (Fe) and what is logically consistent in all facets of life (Ti). Tries to explain and standardize all events to fit a universal framework. Asserts that everything has an explanation.

    yup, I'm some kind of Beta..

    Section A
    1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions. - 3
    2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others. - 3
    3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic. - 3
    4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side. - 2
    5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view. - 3
    6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments. - 3
    7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person. - 3
    8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders. - 3
    9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly. - 2
    10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies. - 3

    A = 28

    Section B
    1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind. - 1
    2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate. - 1
    3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future. - 0
    4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.). - 2
    5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books. - 2
    6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. - 1
    7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them. - 1
    8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions. - 2
    9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression. - 1
    10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art). - 0

    B = 11

    Section C
    1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble. - 1
    2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow. - 2
    3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge. - 3
    4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine. - 2
    5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation. - 1
    6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war. - 2
    7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views. - 3
    8. I would like to be the first and break all records. - 0
    9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline. - 0
    10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me. - 3

    C = 17

    Section D
    1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands. - 0
    2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me. - 0
    3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.) - 3
    4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others. - 1
    5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.). - 2
    6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need. - 1
    7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest. - 2
    8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism. - 0
    9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently. - 1
    10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position. - 1

    D = 11

    Section E
    1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks. - 1
    2. I treat people harshly, but fair. - 2
    3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality. - 3
    4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions. - 3
    5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable. - 1
    6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit. - 0
    7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results. - 3
    8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood. - 2
    9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it. - 1
    10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things. - 2

    E = 18

    Section F
    1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods. - 2
    2. I love order, systems and sequences. - 1
    3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people. -3
    4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematisation. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematise accumulated information. - 1
    5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions. - 3
    6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others. - 2
    7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system. - 2
    8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach. - 2
    9. I can easily understand algebra. - 3
    10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects. - 3

    F = 22

    Section G
    1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices. - 1
    2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future. - 3
    3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily. - 1
    4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way. - 1
    5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate. - 1
    6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses. - 0
    7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings. - 1
    8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose. - 1
    9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope. - 1
    10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot. - 1

    G = 11

    Section H
    1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes. - 1
    2. I easily/quickly to adapt to new conditions and requirements. - 2
    3. I prefer to be a homebody. - 3
    4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want. - 2
    5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others. - 1
    6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own. - 1
    7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances. - 1
    8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best. - 0
    9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents. - 0
    10. I prefer to meet in private. - 1

    H = 12



    A - Ne - Fantastist - 28
    B - Ni - Foreteller - 11
    C - Se - Winner - 17
    D - Si - Epicure - 11
    E - Te - Professional - 18
    F - Ti - Logician - 22
    G - Fe - Romantic - 11
    H - Fi - Peacemaker - 12

    well this looks ENTp ? e_e Ni description is fuken odd. Oi @COVID 007 , I don't relate to you, do you have some kind of disorder or very high IQ, that makes you unusual?
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    You changed yourself back. Thank god.

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    You’re way too erratic and directionless with this typing business for Ni leading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    You’re way too erratic and directionless with this typing business for Ni leading.
    Yeah.. Ne dom seems to be correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    You changed yourself back. Thank god.
    hah! You wuz shook, scurd, disgusted even that I'm your dual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    hah! You wuz shook, scurd, disgusted even that I'm your dual!
    Literally me


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    fwiw you do seem different from covid but you both seem ILE he's just Ne-Ti essence so hes trying to transcend personhood and become Idea Itself whereas you seem somewhat more grounded lol. but you're different people obviously... if you only look at him that's an AWFULLY small sample size

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    I like u again

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I like u again
    O.o. ok. can we keep it that way?

    Hmm.. so my romance style is childlike. Another nail in the coffin I guess. ILE it is.
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