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  • LIE

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  • EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    because they measure different things lol.
    Different socionics types having the same enneatype is like taking a different spin on an enneatype, which is exactly what instinctual variants do too.

    Also, I feel like there’s too much individuality within every sociotype (ex. too many differences between how people with the same set of functions behave despite clearly having those functions) for them all to be one specific enneatype with a specific wing like n9 thinks. But I can also see where he’s coming from, too.
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    We made it to 6 pages babyyyy, keep cumin
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Different socionics types having the same enneatype is like taking a different spin on an enneatype, which is exactly what instinctual variants do too.

    Also, I feel like there’s too much individuality within every sociotype (ex. too many differences between how people with the same set of functions behave despite clearly having those functions) for them all to be one specific enneatype with a specific wing like n9 thinks. But I can also see where he’s coming from, too.
    Also there are only 16 sociotypes whereas with wings there are 18 enneagram types. And yeah, n9 clearly hasn't grasped the fact that people have more wiggle room than he seems to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Also there are only 16 sociotypes whereas with wings there are 18 enneagram types. And yeah, n9 clearly hasn't grasped the fact that people have more wiggle room than he seems to think.
    Maybe he’s secretly Ne PoLR
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Speaking of I love how everyone isn’t even questioning me doing meth or moralizing it, like wow that’s just typical Bled.

    P.S. before the triggered people come in I know it’s bad and I’m not planning on doing it again
    Yeah were u expecting some LSI to put u on brakes lol. Also the "i know its bad blabla shame on u guys for not calling me out" is some type 2 behaviour (because type 2 is superego type), not id type like 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Maybe he’s secretly Ne PoLR
    I mean, whatever type is worst at applying the theory to actual reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Also there are only 16 sociotypes whereas with wings there are 18 enneagram types. And yeah, n9 clearly hasn't grasped the fact that people have more wiggle room than he seems to think.
    No they dont have more wiggleroom. You have only 1 personality. But we have 2 personality systems.
    The 16 personalities directly correlate to enneagram (if youd study closely you would see what i see).

    If you believe in stuff like a T/F dichotomy (that if you have good T you MUST be weak F, basic concept of socionics and MBTI AND Jung) then you cannot say that an LSI can be an image type (image types have good emotional intelligence). Likewise you can also not say that a SEE can be 7. (Because head types are high on T and therefore must be low on F, in either system, because: we have 1 personality, not 2 AND do you actually believe in the basic principles of socionics? If not then were through talking and you should go create ur own system where everybody CAN be both naturally high on both.

    People have already grasped that for example SEEs cant be 5s (because 5s are introverted thinkers and SEEs extroverted feelers thats a nobrainer. and you cant be both or else whats the I/E, T/F dichotomy about? It wouldnt be a dichotomy. I take it a step further into seeing that likewise, they wouldnt be able to be 7s either (because although also extraverted and EP temperament, 7s are still thinkers by nature).

    Im just seeing more correlations than you do cuz ive studied it more in depth.

    Some things are just not logically possible and its EXACTLY the noobs to the theories that say u can be any enneagram pairing with any socionics type. Its simply. Not. Possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    AND do you actually believe in the basic principles of socionics?
    What is this? A religion?
    Why are head types always "high on T"?
    Doesn't change the fact that they measure completely different things

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    Can all the Gamma SFs and Beta NFs just fuckin’ get together and claim our title as kings and queens of earth ??
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    We make the logical types do all the work while we play
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    Im just seeing more correlations than you do cuz ive studied it more in depth.
    Oh I see the correlations, but how many times do you have to be told that correlation doesn't equal causation?

    If you genuinely believe what you are saying - it means your people skills are awful and you don't know many people. This would point us to you being an introvert. As 7 correlates more with extraversion in general, according to your logic this means you cannot be a 7. Try typing yourself correctly.

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    Anyways, I certainly don’t think ALL enneagram and sociotype combinations are possible (fuck no), I just think there’s a lot more than he’s willing to admit
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Can all the Gamma SFs and Beta NFs just fuckin’ get together and claim our title as kings and queens of earth ??
    As there is a chance I could be LIE not SEE, I will reject this movement for the time being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Oh I see the correlations, but how many times do you have to be told that correlation doesn't equal causation?

    If you genuinely believe what you are saying - it means your people skills are awful and you don't know many people. This would point us to you being an introvert. As 7 correlates more with extraversion in general, according to your logic this means you cannot be a 7. Try typing yourself correctly.
    LSI, Ne PoLR, that’s why he wanna make me his dualie so bad

    But seriously, I laugh at a 7 studying in depth. We study in breadth of knowledge, not depth
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    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7, he could have a strong 2 fix and that could explain it if you're going to be all Nazi about correlating with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7
    Fe+Se together would also be fitting of SEE though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    because they measure different things lol.
    They measure one thing. Personality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    They measure one thing. Personality
    This statement shows you haven't studied it in depth. Lol.

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    ESFP in MBTI, I'll buy that, but Socionics SEE???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7, he could have a strong 2 fix and that could explain it if you're going to be all Nazi about correlating with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT systems
    Different systems that are explaining the same phenomenon MUST correlate 100% or else one of the systems is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    where is the Gamma values? where is Fi? this guy exudes Beta values wtf people. how is being EIE not compatible with being 7? Fe+Se together can be very 7, he could have a strong 2 fix and that could explain it if you're going to be all Nazi about correlating with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT systems
    Also i agree this guy has litterally 0 gamma values, wheres the Te valuing lmao. People are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Different systems that are explaining the same phenomenon MUST correlate 100% or else one of the systems is flawed.
    This simply has to be a troll or LSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    ESFP in MBTI, I'll buy that, but Socionics SEE???
    If I’m gifted in senses in one system, and blessed with intuition in another, maybe I’m just fucking God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    LSI, Ne PoLR, that痴 why he wanna make me his dualie so bad

    But seriously, I laugh at a 7 studying in depth. We study in breadth of knowledge, not depth
    Then you remember their line to 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    If I’m gifted in senses in one system, and blessed with intuition in another, maybe I’m just fucking God.
    Well I mean, this would be possible - ENTJ in MBTI shows similarities to SEE

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    What is this? A religion?
    Why are head types always "high on T"?
    Doesn't change the fact that they measure completely different things
    They measure personality dumbass. Thats ONE goddamn thing.

    Even if they measure it slightly differently,they would have to be interwoven perfectly like a machine, cuz personality is a set of TRAITS that stay stable over time. They both describe TRAITS of people. So you CANT say Derp has high emotional intelligence and low emotional intelligence at the same time just cuz its a different system. Got it? Ok cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Different systems that are explaining the same phenomenon MUST correlate 100% or else one of the systems is flawed.
    I'm not sure if I'd say they explain exactly the same phenomenon, at the same time I'd also say that Enneagram is more flawed than Socionics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    They measure personality dumbass. Thats ONE goddamn thing.
    They measure different aspects of personality.
    LSI final type.

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    If you want evidence that Number 9 small is an LSI, then look no further than the definition for Ti+

    Logic of a uniform structure.
    Securing the structure that has proven to work (while considering all other structures incorrect), rationalizing one and only right decision, stubbornly following your principles, thorough reading of directions or drafts. Linear ‘either/or,’ way of thinking; logic of informational structure. LSI.

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    I think me speeding on meth, grinding bubblegum, clutching onto the curtains staring at the street outside at 5:30 AM while smoking a cigarette and spouting shit on a niche online forum is the ultimate performance of my 6 wing.
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    I love all the likes in this thread being thrown out by everyone, my pussy is so juicy it makes everyone rationally love one another ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I think me speeding on meth, grinding bubblegum, clutching onto the curtains staring at the street outside at 5:30 AM while smoking a cigarette and spouting shit on a niche online forum is the ultimate performance of my 6 wing.
    inb4 the LSI says drugs are type 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    I love all the likes in this thread being thrown out by everyone, my pussy is so juicy it makes everyone rationally love one another ^_^
    Interestingly, my threads turn into a battleground. It's really fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    inb4 the LSI says drugs are type 2.
    They certainly do take care of everyone and enjoy being loved~
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    They certainly do take care of everyone and enjoy being loved~
    yeah you're a feeler so simply cannot under any circumstance be type 7 of course. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    yeah you're a feeler so simply cannot under any circumstance be type 7 of course. LOL.
    Even tho 7 is all about trying to keep yourself happy and avoiding boredom

    #thosearefeelings
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    Quote Originally Posted by fresh meat View Post
    Even tho 7 is all about trying to keep yourself happy and avoiding boredom

    #thosearefeelings
    b-b-but muh correlations reeeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    I'm not sure if I'd say they explain exactly the same phenomenon, at the same time I'd also say that Enneagram is more flawed than Socionics
    Enneagram is kinda horoscope-y, all the fears are broad things that anyone could relate to at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Anybody can get addicted to drugs for a looong time. You know Russell Brand did the same thing being on drugs since his teens well over in his 30s years of his life before finally (you type him ENFP but i type him ENFJ also like maso along with same enneagram) giving up on his heroin addiction. Its got nothing to do with being high on S so ur little theory of "if ur on drugs for over a year ur a sensor" is fucking bullshit. EVERYBODY can get sucked up into it. (Although maybe its more common in Se valuers).

    And i still stand by my case that Ti polrs CANNOT be 7s (esp not 7w6, which is ILE, almost the opposite of SEE)

    Tell me how can an alpha NT have the same enneagram as gamma SF? Thats like saying ESI can be 5w6 like an LII because of ij temperament (both superegos to eachother)
    even tho ESI uses a goddamn feeling function all the time. 5w6s THINK, they dont FEEL. (As a general rule of thumb bladeebla you know what i mean)

    Youre completely disregarding ego functons and the whole stacking and valued functions of the quadra and just looking at temperament and ur doing it wrong.

    + any temperament can get hooked on drugs. Drugs arent illegal for no reason, its because theyre so fucking addictive and ruin lives
    The drug thing is just one example of his general lifestyle. I never said only 7s get addicted to drugs. His overall profile of being excitement/chaos seeking and energetic and positive is rather typical of 7 and/or Ep temperament.

    Se and Ne can represent the two sides of 7. The hedonism aspect is often more Se-like, indulging in exciting and YOLO lifestyles to escape (if average to unhealthy). Many SEEs are known for primarily living in the moment, being party animals. They often get mistyped as SLE, but their understanding of social dynamics and graces is more sophisticated, being SF. Compare Jimmy Tatro (SEE-Se 7w8) with Dane Cook (SLE-Se 7w6). The Ne 7 is more conceptual, more concerned with ideas and either innovative theory or morals, like Neil deGrasse Tyson vs Russell Brand (IMO).

    Oprah is a classic EIE 2w3 imo, but you type her as SEE ironically

    Well Enneagram is a bit different, it doesn稚 have dichotomies like Jungian typology. Same with instincts, you can have people in the same Quadra with opposing instinctual stackings, or people of opposite Quadras with the same stackings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Oprah is a classic EIE 2w3 imo, but you type her as SEE ironically
    yes bitch, expose him!!!!

    (and, she is)
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