1X6 means? X is the heart triad?
You're like the second person on here (and other forums) who guessed/types me 1>8. (The other one is @Satan)
1X6 means? X is the heart triad?
You're like the second person on here (and other forums) who guessed/types me 1>8. (The other one is @Satan)
None of these are set in stone, so feel free to negotiate with and/or fight me here. I simplify my typings a lot to get rid of what I think is redundant information (which I'll explain if you like but it's probably a bit unorthodox). If you want to be typed you can also ask me and I'll edit this. I'll edit it anyways as I type more people. Almost everyone on a typology forum has a 4 and is contraflow, what a surprise
Alioth - ILE 648 Sp/Sx
Bled - SEE 748 Sx/So
Bullets - ILI 487 Sx/So
Director Abbie - ESE 164 Sx/So
Ghost - SEI 468 Sp/Sx
Gypsy - ESI 487 So/Sx
L25 - ILE 684 Sp/Sx
Maritsa - SEE 824 So/Sx
Satan - SLI 853 Sx/Sp
SisOfNight - IEI 459 So/Sx
Spider - ILI 863 So/Sx
Subteigh - EII 541 So/Sp
totalize - LIE 852 Sx/So
troubador - EII 459 So/Sp
My self-typing is not on here yet because I still want to see what some people here have to say without it being a reaction to my self-typing. People will already consider a lot of these impossible but unless there's a good argument I don't know, I don't see any combination as impossible. Internal strife is part of human nature, as unglamorous-sounding as that is.
Last edited by Pallas; 11-10-2016 at 03:33 PM.
874 is probably better so I'll switch it to that. Not 2 is obvious at least. As I said, I think paradoxes are kind of normal. Most people have at least some internal conflict sometimes, and you have really obviously paradoxical people like Subteigh that drive many typologists batty. (Not that paradoxical people are automatically conflicted, but as I see it there are sort of regions of conflict vs. harmony that can be bigger or smaller depending on the full typing. Smaller regions, which I consider to be characteristic of more inharmonious/discordant typings, tend to pull people towards very specific things and generate a lot more force during the pulling, which can either affect the person or be used by the person to affect their surroundings, and larger ones, associated with the more obviously harmonious, tend to allow more flexibility and generate little to no force pulling people most of the time. The default thing to do seems to be to assume the biggest region possible for any person, probably largely due to the generality of most type descriptions, but that's definitely not how things work from my experience. In other words, IEI 8s are real.)
Last edited by Pallas; 11-10-2016 at 02:22 AM.
Shiver LXI-Ti
I do appreciate being added to your list but because we haven't really had any real interaction, plus you have mentioned socionics new wave as a good source of typings, I am inclined to think that you might be influenced by the creator of that idea. You might have read his arguments for his typing of me in the other thread. He is just as mistaken as your are about my type. If you would like to give your reasoning for 479 sx/so though I will be happy to hear you out since you must have some compelling evidence up your sleeve... just as I heard him out.
Not trying to burst your bubble but you still have a poor understanding of enneagram, instincts, and socionics, for that matter. I have already told you not to type me because you think you know things about people but you are just skimming the surface and missing deeper clues into their psyche.
edit: I see you have changed me from sx/so to so/sx so same question.
I know my type regardless of what you may see in my TIM at any given moment. I have my reasons for switching it up.
*satan is not sx first. Delta is probably the least likely quadra for him but you were adamant he was gamma not long ago.
** ghost is sx/sp which would be obvious if you paid attention or had one meaningful conversation with her.
*** stick to typing those you actually have had meaningful interactions with or you will be continuously backtracking i.e. eating your own words.
**** you tend to believe in your own infallibility and miss crucial information.
Edit2: I thought you were joking about SEE for Maritsa?
Edit3: I am not trying to be mean to Verb. She basically told me it was fine if I was straight with her and it doesn't bother her but I will clarify for someone who thought I was being mean.
Last edited by Aylen; 11-10-2016 at 09:14 AM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Shiver ILI-Te 135
@Maritsa EII 126
@totalize EIE 378
@goldenbane EII 269 (or 1)
@Verbrannte IEE 2w3 or sx7
@Chae IEI 135
Last edited by Mr inappropriate; 11-10-2016 at 12:50 PM.
While @Starfall might "look" Se-creative from some of her photos, there's no way any LSI would name themselves Starfall with an additional space location and avatar choice. I'm a firm believer in her IEI-ness, no matter how many food things she posts . She's similar to me in many ways, although it might not seem so (probably more than any other posters on 16types, besides Bane: I'm like their love child).
Second, Adam Strange - intuitive type (LIE), no LSE in their right mind would name themselves anything Strange - he's just very strong on Te.
Abbie - Definitely logical, where do people see Fe??
Mega - logical, no Fe, probably LIE
Verbrannte - pretty obvious Ni base imo
Spider - still ILI
Hitta - alpha NT
Shiver - fuckwit
Lol, I'm EII 2. This is awesome! @Maritsa, ooooooooh baby, look at me now!
@Aylen Sorry. I don't think it really matters all that much what people type each other though. Look how much everyone here disagrees already on the rest of the thread. I'll take yours out if you disagree though.
Originally Posted by Aylen
That's fine. Trial and error is all part of the process.
Originally Posted by Aylen
Well, if I thought I were infallible, I'd set them in stone, but they're not.
Originally Posted by Aylen
No, she reminds me of my SEE brother and a lot of other SEEs I know, for one thing.
Originally Posted by Aylen
Thanks. I wonder who that could be
I don't see that really, but thanks I guess?
Ip temperament:
"Typical characteristics
- relaxed
- go-with-the-flow
- finds it easy to spend long periods of time in no activity, or at very low levels of energy
- movements are flexible, unhurried
- little inclination towards fidgetiness when having to remain inactive for longer periods"
My baseline state:
These are the best typings I've ever seen. (Well, goldebane being EII is pretty awesome, but not because it's accurate )
@Ghost
"sp/sx decadent (strong sx) - sp at its most saturated with sx; self-attending ways are offset by a wilder outgoing streak, reaching outside themselves then pulling back. noticable 'sx-y' quality, often enough to pass for sx first.
quote: "what is my life, without the things I love?"
pulls from: sx/so, to enhance sx
role: the sensualist, the hedonist
exemplars: david beckham, sarah mclachlan, dido, rachael ray, george harrison, maureen dowd
fictional from star wars: lando calrissian"
That sounds fine.
"sx/sp seducer (weak sp) - sx in full command produces an active recruiter of potential mates; but being sx/sp this remains in the yin mode of seducing. charismatic and overtly sexualized, arguably the most purely sx of all stacks and ranges. draws from so/sx shadow to liven up sx into an erotic playfulness and to keep sx far ahead of their relatively nominal sp. an emotional yearning to their mating ritual; an inherently unstable range that can lead to a pattern of serial heartbreak. often confused for sx/so. "
I thought you always talked about how weak your So was...
http://typewatchenneagram.blogspot.ru
Last edited by Pallas; 11-10-2016 at 03:40 PM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Don't think I have any tiny little bit of 4 or contraflow in me. Lol
I definitely agree with you on the typings of @Alioth, @handjob (Bled), @Gypsy, @Subteigh for example.
I gave a lot of thought to the EIE retyping of @Gypsy but I had to conclude my earlier typing her at ESI was correct.
Have certainly considered SLI for @Satan, what makes you think SLI for him?
@Ghost seems beta NF to me after having seen more info about them. No way she's any Si ego. Then @Bullets is anything but Te. @Director Abbie is anything but Fe. @Maritsa is anything but Se.
Interesting Ni there. That's not how I type people though, not by looking for such regions if I followed what you meant there. EII 8s are real too?...
I got the impression you wanted to hone your intuition and/or know what you are talking about, from the couple of interactions we have had. If I didn't I wouldn't have bothered to respond with feedback. Therefore it doesn't matter what others type each other. I am talking to you. You posting stuff like Maritsa is SEE just seems vindictive and does nothing to further the understanding of people who actually take it serious. Feel free to type me what you want though but if credibility is any part of your agenda you might want to put a bit more effort into it.
The person who said I sounded a bit mean is most likely not who you think it is so there is no reason to about them. They were just giving me some feedback as I gave to you. I was tired at the time so maybe I should have littered it with so people wouldn't think I have targeted you.
You know I am not talking about your typings when I say "infallible" don't you? If you are not aware then I suggest looking back to our private exchange.
You still didn't give me your reasoning for 479 sx/so or so/sx typing so I am going to chalk it up to you trolling me since I was pretty clear with you already on where I stand on your unsolicited offerings to others. You asked me about things. I didn't ask you for information. Carry on...
Edit:
Don't mention ghost in this thread. She can't respond in this one. If you want to type her move it to the enneagram thread where she can reply. Thanks.
Last edited by Aylen; 11-10-2016 at 05:37 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I give tri-type for enneagram, just in numerical order. @goldenbane you too, not necessarily EII e2.
oh @Ghost is sth like 4, IEI or ESI. @Gypsy is also ESI-4
and I guess, all other people here are 4 fixed in some way, lol. Except @Myst. 358 for her.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I want attention too. Even if it's just three letters.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Oh, I do. It just sort of tends to happen in spurts, like water building up gradually behind a levee before it bursts, hence my holding off changing the typing for now even though I'm not actively keeping it either. Also, my typing Maritsa as SEE is not vindictive. I love SEEs, they tend to (although not as an absolute) be the sweetest people I know, more so than EIIs. They tend to be able to really stand up () for both their own and other people's feelings () as compared to EIIs who tend to be about the most withdrawn people there are and often come across sort of grouchy even if they're very sweet internally. For example, in the discord, when everyone with an 8 starts fighting, Bled with his 9 can calm people down pretty effectively, but the EIIs and other more withdrawn types with 9s have pretty minimal success with that generally. I'm not typing her based on SEE stereotypes or the conception of them as the ratatta of types because I have an extremely nuanced view of types and think they all occur about, if not exactly, equally often. Plus SEEs are my benefactor so that should be viewed as a compliment even by the most conventional standards...
OK. Yes, when tried, always add as many completely random bubbly smileys as possible . I need to do that too probably.
OK. Well, the reason I picked that stacking is because the 4 is pretty obvious, Sx and So both not last seem likely, and then I went for 7 because you seem to obviously not have a 6 and then tend to go for experiences > analysis (the people with 5s in the discord tend to ramble about things like whether Nietzsche was more influenced by Wagner or Schopenhauer, for example, or whether or not certain political philosophies can properly be called anarchism, and on the forum you have people discussing fractals in the music of Chopin, linguistics, the differences between literary movements, etc.) and 9 because you seem pretty relaxed compared to the 8 gut people who tend to be sort of fiery and enjoy arguing and the 1s who have more of a cool and hard stonelike kind of vibe at least sometimes. I learn things better by actively doing something than sitting and reading so please excuse my current hit-and-miss enneagram typing (this is why, when people talked about making schools for MBTI intuitive vs. sensors, I thought the sensor one sounded more appealing. Active vs. passive learning and abstract vs. concrete are two independent dimensions in the most up-to-date learning theory I've heard, but culturally people like to lump in active witg concrete and passive with abstract, to my chagrin, and then often social gets lumped in with the first category and solitary in the second still). I'll stop posting typings of people who don't ask if it's that irritating, but I did think being on this board is largely permission for people to type you as whatever they want since that's the entire focus here and there's pretty much no way to make everyone agree with you. I don't like a lot of the things people type me but there's really nothing I can do about it, but that might just be mistakes on their part and I might just be under the wrong impression regarding people typing you as things you don't agree with due to their earnest opinions and/or personal like of dislike of you being part of the package of joining here.
Reply to edit: OK, thanks for the info. So is she banned everywhere except there then, and doomed to haunt that subforum?
After chatting with @Mr inappropriate in the chatbox, I find that SLE is a much more likely option than LSI, Fe mobilizing >>> Fe suggestive.
Thank you for the speedy analysis. I hope you realize though that the person you just typed is not me. I was on that particular discord channel a couple of times before I left and did my own thing. You have no idea what my interests are and what subjects I may delve deeply into, with various people, so you typed me by comparing me to the regulars, I hardly know, and who probably know very little about me, except for maybe 1 person. 2 at most. I doubt they would be discussing me that much though if at all. Like I said you assume too much and fail to fill in the gaps intuitively when it comes to me. You might be better at it with those you spend more time with.
The thing that irritated me about you is that you claimed to know me in response to an offhand comment I made on discord. I don't really care who you type or how you type them other than it continues to spread disinformation so there is no clarity in any of it. If you are just doing it for fun and pull types out of a hat for people that is great. Enjoy yourself. You really have no reason to type me "self preserve" last and that is because you do not know anything about me or how I live my life. I will continue to encourage you to pay attention to your symbolism and intuition but you are far from reading people correctly at this point. At least the ones we appear to have in common. Maybe you are better at typing those you speak to every day or maybe you just acquiesce to their self typing.
I might seem a bit short with you sometimes but it is because I kind of get where you are with all this and I think you can do better than this. As of now you are too flighty and too enthusiastic about too many things. You speak faster than just about anyone I know. Maybe try slowing down and think awhile before you blurt things out that may not be appreciated. I think you know this is not just about typing but life in general. Now I have to cut this short as I have other things to do.
Oh and she is not banned from all threads. Just this one.
Last edited by Aylen; 11-10-2016 at 10:52 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
From chat, I figure it belongs to this thread more than to any other,
[Today 02:03 AM] Myst: "Shiver - Report Shout Yesterday 03:43 PM I went through and examined in particular what you talked about with Myst; that user flip-flopped very quickly based on what I'd put in one thread and was visibly carrying irritation from it into the chat, which ultimately bled over into typing opinion."
[Today 02:03 AM] Myst: nice lies
[Today 02:03 AM] Myst: I never flip-flopped, always said "certain focus on Ti excluding Te lead, NT", and "ILE>ILI/LII"
[Today 02:03 AM] Myst: I still say the same
Shiver's type is fact-distorter-nasty-liar.
I see that @Aylen got typed as 479...... Which happens to be how I type some of my favorite people (bled and aqua) so I deem this typing good............. Also a bird was chattering outside my window this morning, ESE, and said that Aylen is halfway submerged in the veil... Elusive. Please next time type by shadow
Did I ever mention how I fucking hate socionics
Baby gurl, I’m yr window into senescence
#pick-up lines I plan on using
@Aylen OK, thanks. But regarding your typing, I'd like to know which of these two themes you relate to more:
1. Storm and stress, a valve containing fire that is driven inwards as it builds up but explodes outwards violently when the valve is opened, life as literal struggle of an atomized individual against the world, “He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster, andwhen you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you”
2. Return to paradise, the irresistible attraction of a magnet to an immovable metal object, life as a journey of an individual through manifold wild landscapes, "And so you know your destination?" he asked. "Yes," I answered, "didn't I say so? Away-From-Here, that is my destination."
This is pretty experimental by the way, I'm just starting to survey people and see how it turns out.
Last edited by Pallas; 11-11-2016 at 05:44 PM.