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You can ask me stuff, and I'll reply in a video so you can help type meh!
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HEY! Video ;)
Since my video doesn't qualify for Baby's thread, HERE IT IS!
You can ask me stuff, and I'll reply in a video so you can help type meh!
SOUNDS FUN RIGHT?!
http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ent=Video3.flv
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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You seem irrational.
Sorry, it's not much help.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Dunno. The way you expressed yourself kinda reminded me of my INFp friend.
Though you seem more extroverted than him.
INTp
sx/sp
ahh hell is it really Cinco De Mayo? I need to get some margarita stuff.
I think INFp or ESFp is more likely than ISFp, based on the video. Tending to ESFp actually, you remind me of an ESFp I knew, both in appearance and behavior.
i don't know but you're going to kill me/make me puke with your charming-ness. i agree that talking to a computer can be really odd.
okay, a question, then: tell me about the most important book you've read and why it was important to you. let's say 45 seconds to a minute for the reply.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
You remind me of my roomate's fiancee, only less annoying. I think she's some sort of infantile type, though, from what I've seen of their relationship.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
you're certainly expressive; that would point to a fairly clear Fe ego type.
Hmm, INFp comes to mind.
I'm currently leaning towards ESFp. She's not as obviously Se as a lot of ESFps, but Se/Ni > Si/Ne is most likely. And a Ti PoLR makes a hell of a lot more sense than a Te PoLR.
Let's try this exercise. Read through the following duality descriptions and color code any parts that jump out as something that you like, dislike, relate to, etc.
The Commander is decisive and purposeful, brave and full of initiative. He is capable of persevering a long time towards his goal, overcoming any difficulties at his way. He is not always capable of taming his emotions and outbursts of wrath, but can subordinate others to him and make them do what he wants. The Lyricist lacks such decisiveness; he admires strong people possessing leadership skills. He tries to be useful to them by giving cautionary advice.
The Lyricist foresees very well the negative outcome of certain actions of The Commander. He watches people's emotional reactions and then suggests to the Commander measures to influence them. Without such advice The Commander may act precipitately. The Commander possesses good organizational skills. He has a talent for planning actions, distributing duties and resources. The Commander at the same time lacks diplomacy. He will manipulate people like inanimate objects, not reckoning with their feelings and interests. Thus he turns people against him but he does not understand why. The Lyricist softens his authoritarianism, tuning him up to a warmer attitude. He advises to be diplomatic, calms him down, releases The Commander's irritability by jokes and compliments made at the right moment. At the same time he creates the atmosphere of politeness, being aristocratic, 'keeping aloof', regulates distance in communication, as soon as he feels the partner is ready to insult him. In this way The Lyricist avoids possible confrontation.
The Commander tends to doubt not only the good attitude of others towards him, but also noble motives of others. He rather notices people’s negative traits more than positive ones. Sometimes he is excessively suspicious, afraid of treason, and for this reason tends to surround himself by favorites whom he trusts. The Lyricist neutralizes The Commander's prejudice by his trustful and kind manner of communication, neutralizing his suspicions by assertions of his loyalty.
The Lyricist is capable of choosing a moment for sudden decisive actions, which discourages opponents, and this makes him useful to The Commander, who appreciates his original advice. The Lyricist attracts people and manipulates their feelings and relations. He looks forward and prepares for the future in advance. He finds necessary acquaintances and fulfillers for his projects. Unlike The Commander, he is optimistic and can inspire others with his optimism, especially his dual, who values interests in concrete affairs over all and so expects from others dirty tricks rather than assistance. It is for this reason he loses adherents and falls into depression caused by bad foreboding.
The Lyricist's shortcoming is his inclination to blame others considering them guilty of his own misfortunes. The Commander easily calms down his dual by threatening to punish the offenders and to restore justice. Sometimes he puts The Lyricist to shame, teaches him lessons of courage and endurance. Together with such a strong personality The Lyricist is ready to overcome everything, believing in success. He needs moral support, without which his vital tonus decreases. He needs, too, a support of an authoritative partner, who understands instructions and rules, possesses penetrative skills, realism and practical intelligence.And just in case you happen to be bored and feel like doing these as well:The Critic gives figurative descriptions of expected development of events, and such information is very interesting to The Politician, who has difficulty imagining the outcome of his actions. The Critic counsels with insight and caution, he gives detailed strategies - this is just what the super-active and impulsive Politician really lacks.
Possessing business skills, The Critic immediately notices the best investments and critically speaks of those he considers as a waste of time and energy. In this way he saves The Politician exhaustion and disappointment –that is, if The Politician pays attention to his dual's advice, which does not always happen. But even this is good, because a more slow-moving partner might get discouraged or become complacent. By contrast, such criticizing helps The Politician to find the golden mean in his activities, to use the mean rationally and to be more scrupulous in choosing ways of achieving goals.
Both at work and at home The Critic likes peace and harmony. He values comfort, cleanness and order. However, due to his inertia he does not always achieve what he wants. The Politician likes his thoroughness, polite manners, philosophical tranquility and economical skills.
Since The Critic is vulnerable but not sufficiently flexible and not very diplomatic, he easily spoils his relations with the others. He does not really understand why this happens and he often falls into melancholy and sadness. He needs a cheerful partner who could easily correct his tactical mistakes and not stay resentful over trifles. The Politician will divert attention from a dangerous topic, will tell a compliment at the just the right time or make everything into a joke. The Politician prefers quick and decisive actions. He easily widens the field of activities and breaks down all barriers on the way towards his goal. He does not like covert resistance or crude orders – if he perceives them he will do just the opposite of what was desired.
Strong and self-confident people are attractive to The Critic. Nevertheless, he simply ignores excessive pressure, as if not noticing it. Also he does not accept a challenge, will not fight and by doing this softens the force of The Politician. It awakens in The Politician the understanding that he needs to act more diplomatically, to use persuasion and not a direct attack. If he happens to be at the top of an organization, in order to keep common order he needs a well-wishing and wise partner capable of creating trustful atmosphere of communication, softening arising misunderstandings by demonstrating their relative value.
In this way The Critic serves as a balance to his sometimes-aggressive partner. They both often quarrel with each other but soon come to agreement forgetting all hurts. The Politician demonstrates sympathy and understanding and by this relaxes The Critic. If he responds to his dual’s warnings he can demonstrate his great capacity to handle all difficulties. The Politician does not pay much attention to general regularities and trends. He dislikes clerical work and does not always know rules and instructions. Unwillingly he plans in advance. He does not like to submit to schedules and norms. The Critic helps him distribute his energy and schedules, only the most important, worthy task. He performs detailed work, up to the logical final.
‘Aristocratically polite’ relations with the smack of humor and easy mutual critiquing distinguish this dual pair.
The Seeker is somewhat 'not here and now', he longs for far-reaching projects. He is obsessed with many ideas, which he explains so vaguely that only few people can understand him. The Mediator, however, does not refuse them at once, but shows interest and if he finds in them something useful, he looks for support of people capable of practical implementation of these ideas. If these ideas, however, seem to him too naive, or if their implementation may be too problematic, The Mediator can 'earthen' The Seeker's redundant inventive energy, calm him down and distract from 'fighting windmills'. He appreciates The Seeker's originality of thought and often shares his passions. In general, he tolerantly attends to this 'eternal child', playing the role of a caring parent. He guides the practical side of their common life.
The Seeker is critical towards everything created earlier. He looks for new ways and alternatives. Having analyzed the situation and finding its dubious aspects, he may provoke split in an organization and create his own group of adherents. But lack of tactfulness does not allow him to keep the adherents at his side. However, The Mediator is an expert at 'shuttle diplomacy'; he is quite capable of grouping people, softening the ethical mistakes of his dual and finding support of his superiors. He takes care of the comfort, rest and amusement of the party. He can arrange holiday parties. But in everyday chores he is mobile and strives for completion of his undertakings. That is if he is convinced in the perspective of the new undertakings, the suggested solution of complicated and intricate situations. The Mediator watches the flow of work and does not let The Seeker stop halfway by getting attracted to a new idea. The Seeker needs such a stabilizer both in affairs and in relations.
The Seeker gets mobilized in critical moments: bravely repulses the enemy, protecting both his own interests and those of others. By doing this he sometimes loses the feeling of necessary limit. The Mediator who directs his initiatives watches him. When The Seeker loses vital tonus and begins neglect his duties, The Mediator 'arranges an emotional episode' for him and by this raises his spirits. But on the other hand, he can extinguish a quarrel by his diplomacy and jokes, before it results in rupture of relations. His feelings often return The Seeker ‘to solid ground’, distracting him from abstractions, making him think about practical tasks as well. The Seeker cannot regulate distance in communication; sometimes he is out of place, unceremonious, too credulous towards people, too kind to those who envy him. For this reason he may get into trouble. The Mediator saves him from this.
The Mediator can take care of the health and comfort of others. The Seeker appreciates this trait of his dual very much. He responds to The Mediator with reciprocity. He strives to be faithful in their partnership and friendship, which is especially liked by The Mediator.
Although The Mediator is ostentatiously optimistic, he is very much afraid of the future, as the source of uncertainty. His dual saves him from such doubts by making forecasts and especially by taking global strategic protective measures. The Mediator periodically falls into laziness but his dual does not rebuke him for it, in other words, does not require him to be always highly productive. The Mediator likes The Seeker's capability of deriving benefit from everything without much effort, of concluding profitable agreements, and he willingly assists his partner in such affairs.
Ingenuousness, impulse of life and feelings represent the 'visiting card' of this dual pair.The Craftsman easily detects smallest deviations from esthetic standards in the surrounding world; such disharmony makes him feel distressed, awakes in him a feeling of discomfort, the desire to improve the situation, to perfect what he achieved or actually possesses – not only in the material world, but in his intellectual and spiritual development as well. This is why The Craftsman is exigent to himself and often also to the others. He likes nothing drab, trite and banal, strives for improvement of his own, his friends and family, beginning from the appearance and health, and up to the mental development. He is very curious, has wide range of interests, often he is not self-confident because of increased self-criticism. He needs praise of his capabilities, encouragement of his efforts.
The Psychologist is just the kind of person who notices talents of the others, inspires them with belief in their capabilities, readily tells compliments. He notices even hidden capabilities and willingly encourages their development. This in turn very much commands respect of The Craftsman, who does not feel bored with such a partner. The Psychologist is useful to him also because he easily finds solutions to difficult situations, which would otherwise make The Craftsman feel depressed. Being thankful for that, The Craftsman takes care of the mental and external comfort of the one solving his internal problems.
The Psychologist very much needs a caring partner and finds relaxation for his emotional and restless soul in the 'quiet haven' of a friend, who is constant in his words and deeds, reliable and faithful. The Craftsman creates convenience and comfort for The Psychologist, who is not much adapted to the real life, thus giving him the opportunity to focus on spiritual and intellectual values, generate new ideas, which will bring the taste of novelty into their common affairs.
Everyday chores are usually undertaken by The Craftsman, who believes he can do them better. The Psychologist takes initiative in relations, can unite people around himself, and becomes the 'life of the party'. He gains people's favor, willingly advises on solving personal problems. He is a subtle psychologist, who understands well hidden motives of people. He emotionally demonstrates his attitude towards people; his sincerity, warmth and ingenuousness make others forgive his excessive straightforwardness and hot temper. He corrects The Craftsman's ethical mistakes, and often even his own, since he is not rancorous and likes people very much. His trustfulness disarms the incredulous Craftsman, and emotionality softens his more cold-tempered and reserved partner.
The Craftsman is reticent enough and does not like to demonstrate his feelings. He can put a distance in communication, seems to be arrogant and non-sociable. But in the very depths of his soul he is thankful to the person who takes responsibility for ethical issues on himself. He likes The Psychologist's spirit of trust, whose permanent optimism, capability of foreseeing the future and perspectives of various undertakings, finding ways out of any problems. The Psychologist raises The Craftsman's confidence of the future, decrease his skepticism and mistrust towards everything new, not well known or not proven by practice. In addition, The Craftsman is sometimes excessively nervous and mistrustful; he exaggerates possible dangers not to mention real ones. But The Psychologist, who lives more in the future than in the present, 'calculates' everything in advance and in such moments call for caution, and at the same time calms down his partner when an alarm is false.
The Craftsman is very technological and practical. He can work quickly and is well organized. He plans all stages of his work in advance, acquires all the necessary things in advance. He is enduring in perfecting details of his work, can separate important things from trifles, which is not an easy task for The Psychologist. The Psychologist's efficiency of working is high only in critical situations, while routine and monotonous, non-creative work deteriorates his vital tonus, being a source of boredom for this restless creative personality. The Psychologist gladly accepts a role of 'second' or 'assistant', which suits The Craftsman's commanding nature. The Craftsman does not like when others impose on him other ways of doing things than he would prefer. He is strives for real benefit and profit, unlike altruistic Psychologist, and this contributes to growth of material welfare of this dual pair.
The Psychologist needs a partner indulgent enough to his weak points: negligence at work, lack of consideration to rules, norms and hierarchy, outbursts of non-motivated aggression. The Craftsman is indulgent to such, sometimes they even amuse him. He likes the independent nature of The Psychologist, which does not encroach on his own independence.
The characteristic features of this dual pair are the independence from each other, as well as from others, harmony of relations and a restless spirit of creativity and self-development.
ESFp
Joy, does that ever work?
yah... not generally with people who haven't had any serious, long term, adult relationships though... which is like half of the people who stumble into this place. (Not to mention that having experienced duality definitely helps!)
you're going to kill me/make me puke with your charming-ness.
Is this a negative?
Okay, sorry Maria I made it too long because I couldn't see a timer
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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INFp.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I like how you have the wrong type in your signature.
ESFp?
I doubt an ESFp would not know here neighbors well enough, or have such reservations about crashing a party.
Most of the ESFps I know do drugs - that doesn't mean I hate all of them because of it, it is just a fact.
You could be ISFp.
Who would be more appealing -- an ENTp or an INTp?
Do you relate more to alpha or gamma quadra?
Or beta... if you really think you're INFp
You seemed a lot more focused directly, like an S type, as opposed to N types.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
you know, there are ESFps who don't party a lot (not that kelly doesn't lol)
Why not ENFj?
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
i was curious about that, too. something seems beta no matter how i try to un-beta you or think of you as gamma. i'm still thinking beta NF. edit: or ISFp. just not atype from what i can tell.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
I am not INFp. I'm just not. It just doesn't make sense.
THe only reason Peter is saying that, is beacause back when we were really close (OVER A YEAR AGO) I was very depressed and reclusive.
Now that I have a "normal" life, doing things, going out, working, etc. I am MUCH more socially comfortable, I talk to anyone who seems open to talking to me. This mainly started in work, but I found it carry's over in most other public places. I no longer feel uncomfortable at parties, or out in public anywhere. I'm just, less intimidated by people.
I'm considering ExFp, and sooooooort of ISFp but....I'm just not timid I'm sorry.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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lhkj
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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i was curious about that, too. something seems beta no matter how i try to un-beta you or think of you as gamma. i'm still thinking beta NF.
It's because of how I used to act around Herzy probably.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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It's not uncommon to feel that way about your identical. But this might be a clue into your type. In what ways do you feel more mature than her?
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
haha, i thought the reverse, actually. she didn't seem s-focused to me.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
haha, i thought the reverse, actually. she didn't seem s-focused to me.
Okay, the best way I can expain is...
I may seem N-based, but that is just be beign sensory and guessing, and sometimes getting it right. It makes sense that I am S based because of how freaked out I get about doing new things. And how I have to just think, "I'm in the moment, I'm doing this now. I can't mess up. I'll be fine. Just do it."
I get a feel for a person, and I make guesses as to how they act.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
.
or
?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I want to point out that Kelly doesn't know why I think she's INFp.
it's not because she's "quiet and timid"?
Kelly and I had a talk and I think we settled on INFp.
Your talents never cease to amaze me.
I didn't settle quite yet, but he made very good points.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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I just don't see you valuing Ti > Te.
And you should definitely look at how you are when you're healthiest to determine functional preferences.
a lot of ISFps are incredibly non-quiet/non-timid and can come off as extroverts.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
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I want to hold the girl in your avatar.
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6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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lol God knows all INFps I know don't like my Ti after about 8 months, except when then only see me sporadically. Even though they are all hot. One INFp is my professional superior, and another is married and i don't act with them appropriately lets say.
edit: oh yeah. Kelly, remember those photos you did of the 16 types, and ESTp had a football? Well, remember your ISFp pic and you were all *face*. You don't seem enough *face* to be ISFp.
I think ESFp is very plausible. You are all me, me, me, my relationships and my feelings. Your ramblings remind me of Britney Spears song lyrics a lot. She is ESFp imho. Kristiina's definition of Fi was something like a defined _me_ talking to an undefined _someone_. Fe would be an undefined me talking to a defined someone/group. Imho that is Fi. You are so ME, ME, ME that it seems Fi>>Fe to me.
Somehow you remind me a lot of this Britney song as that is how you usually come across:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQaHzcKBC0[/youtube]
And this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JT9jW2qQ7I[/youtube]
That's the
But what about the
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCJxXZngzbk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC4J5B0Z8_A[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XhExl67EH0[/youtube]
Lol I'm typing by Britney. Not very reliable
Then do you relate to this kind of lyrics at all?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7QbL6yFaMA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME1QB7mg4eA[/youtube]
Imho those lyrics in all those songs capture an ESFp mindset reasonably well. If you don't relate then it points away from ESFp and if you do then it points away from INFp. Imho. I might be wrong as this is not exactly scientific
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I want to hold the girl in your avatar.
I don't see how there wasn't a settlement on this issue.
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