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  • ILE (ENTp)

    0 0%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    1 4.35%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    0 0%
  • LII (INTj)

    0 0%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    1 4.35%
  • IEI (INFp)

    0 0%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    0 0%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    7 30.43%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    3 13.04%
  • ILI (INTp)

    3 13.04%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    3 13.04%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    2 8.70%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    0 0%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    2 8.70%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    2 8.70%
  • EII (INFj)

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    Default Hillary Clinton

    I'm reading her autobiography right now. It's rather interesting.











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    Default Hilary Clinton

    I think SLE.

    Fairly certain...

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    ga naar bed, het is laat...
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Gamma SF I think, prolly ESI. Definitely not SLE.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I don't see SLE. ESI or LSI seem like very good bets to me.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    ga naar bed, het is laat...
    haha. ja ach, morgen vrij :-)

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    She's Ti ISTj. Introverted and Fe seeking. IJ seems to capture her well, and uh she is just not Ne.



    duals, Fe ENFj and Ti ISTj:



    Static and Se:




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    i like the young picture of her with bill where she is very poorly groomed. I think IJ for sure, but i consider ILI and LII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    duals, Fe ENFj and Ti ISTj:


    Those are acceptable typings. Alternatives I've considered are ENFj-ISFj and ENTp-ESFp, partly because of relationship dynamics that make more sense than duality.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Bill is probably Fe-ESE, IMO.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Bill was probably Fe-ESE, IMO.
    I've considered ESE before, but......

    http://the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19833
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Interesting. Perhaps Fe-EIE is best. I can relate a lot to what they say about him.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    all I have to say is: she's not SLE.

    those are some unattractive images of her. poor dear...
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    oke not SLE then. It was just the 'vybe' that I got. Because of her somewhat agressive pushy behaviour I saw on t.v.

    Maybe she's different on other occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    haha. ja ach, morgen vrij :-)
    has tu kain vaark zu tun?
    It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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    I think steve is correct on LSI-Ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    has tu kain vaark zu tun?
    No Rick, it's not German!
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    ga naar bed, het is laat...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    haha. ja ach, morgen vrij :-)
    gu dĂ tha sibh dithis ag radh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    has tu kain vaark zu tun?
    ich hab vaark von montag bis dunderstag. immer vreitag vrij.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    gu dĂ tha sibh dithis ag radh?
    Is that scottisch?

    we must have an Allo Allo thread!
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    Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Is that scottisch?

    we must have an Allo Allo thread!
    NO PLEASE! NOT ALLO ALLO! I'LL PISS MY PANTS!
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    that's really interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    NO PLEASE! NOT ALLO ALLO! I'LL PISS MY PANTS!
    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Is that scottisch?

    we must have an Allo Allo thread!
    Is math sin! (which actually is still gaelic, nothing to do with mathemetics though lol)

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    The profile on Bill Clinton sounds as if BC has as 6th function, because the writer says he is unable to feel emotions when alone, but he is engaging when surrounded by people.

    B.Clinton and Hillary may be conflictors: what she values most is highly unimportant to him...who knows?
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    It sounds like the writer of the text is a valuer, and probably also a valuer (or at least an intuiter), and views Bill's emotions as fundamentally "phony." These are things I've heard said of leading males -- things like "he has no feelings of his own but just mirrors others' emotions." But the same is rarely said of leading women... At the same time, the author views Clinton's intellect as being of a "smarter," more "creative" variety than Hillary's. Elsewhere, however, Hillary is described as being very sharp, lucid, and having a commanding knowledge of issues.

    One has to keep in mind that many men are seen as distant and women as more immediate, compassionate, and real, especially in their emotional expression. Ethical men very often use their ethics to secure territory, and not necessarily to connect with people, care for them, and maintain relationships for relationships' sake.

    If their genders weren't known, we might think Hillary was the ethical type and Bill the logical type, but this part makes it clearer that it's the other way around:


    "He uses denial of affection as his method of getting people to do what he wants them to do - the ones he's close to - rather than to praise or give affection. It's the strangers he showers everything on -- If he feels that his relationship with you is set, there's nothing to lose -- As he does with her... I believe it's a relationship in which she is -- addicted to him. And she adores him."


    In other words, he uses doses of affection to achieve his goals, and she is hooked on that. He showers attention on strangers while often showing indifference to those whose adoration is already secure (sounds like leading , or an ethical extravert). If Hillary were ESI and Bill EIE, according to Expat's hypothesis, it's hard to see why she would be "addicted to him." Presumably, what she would appreciate about him would be the , not the . Yet the things she says about him seem to be along the lines of, "he is the most interesting, energizing and fully alive person I have ever met." That's like a leading type appreciating a leading type in an intimate relationship for his imaginativeness and perceptiveness.

    Here Hillary is described as a more compassionate and sincere person than Bill, but elsewhere she's described as "tough as nails," "sharp," "exacting," "uncompromising," etc.

    I still maintain that Bill is ESE and Hillary LSI.
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    One of the many reasons I disagree with EIE for Clinton are the reactions to him I've seen from SLIs (basically, "a really interesting person I'd like to meet"). These same SLIs react negatively to the melodrama of Reagan and to the overbearingness of Hillary.

    It's hard to know for sure, though, as these are democrat SLIs. A strongly Republican SLI I know views Clinton as a flake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    ga naar bed, het is laat...
    is that go to bed, it's late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied View Post
    is that go to bed, it's late?
    Yes, it is. As in: clearly you are tired at 2 AM if you think Hillary is SLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I still maintain that Bill is ESE and Hillary LSI.
    That would be kinda shaky if the writer is ENFp. He clearly sides with Hillary's personality and I think it's mainly on the basis of Fi. And nothing in his description of Bill points towards strong Si or a sensing type. There's even a lack of Se and 'earthiness' pointed out which I hardly believe could be found in any ESE.
    Last edited by Park; 01-26-2009 at 06:31 PM.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark View Post
    That would be kinda shaky if the writer is ENFp. He clearly sides with Hillary's personality and I think it's mainly on the basis of Fi. And nothing in his description of Bill points towards strong Si or a sensing type. There's even a lack of Se and 'earthiness' pointed out which I hardly believe could be found in any ESE.
    The writer could just as well be EII (or some other type). There seems to be more than a little judgmentalism (or maybe just an evaluatory tone) in the description, which strikes me as a bit anti-IEE (though we don't know the context of it).

    There's nothing in the description of Bill that points towards intuition either, though.
    It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    There's nothing in the description of Bill that points towards intuition either, though.
    I would have to disagree. (I've no time to elaborate right now though unfortunately)
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    ISTj seems fine for her, 1w2 sp/so.

    Jenna Marbles does a nice impression of Clinton.

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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I actually got no good view how she is as a person. I voted SEE

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    I'm guessing SEE-Se, saw a documentary yesterday. i'm not sure though. and cigar bill seems See-Fi.

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    Se-LSI is what I think Hillary Clinton's type is. She tries really hard to be come across as emotional, but is very bad at it so it just comes out as fake.
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    LSI

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    When will you guys learn that you cannot type sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129 View Post
    When will you guys learn that you cannot type sociopaths?
    The day Trump becomes president?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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