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    Shoko Asahara is doubtful to be EIE. too calm one

    Simon Whistler mb EII
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-X7sBE5f78

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    Kim Carlsson of DSBM/post-punk band Lifelover - IEI?




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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post


    hard to judge his type since he never speaks, but LSI seems like a good guess
    Same style of working as my dad. I type my dad LSI... but that is a weak proof... and he doesn't make bow and arrows, altough he did carpentry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Same style of working as my dad. I type my dad LSI... but that is a weak proof... and he doesn't make bow and arrows, altough he did carpentry.
    I couldn't find any sources on his person but I'm very sure he has that type. might add him to my website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post

    Shoko Asahara EIE (probably dominant subtype based on characteristics he had – dominance)
    hmm it's really shocking how many mass murderers are EIE. I guess this is an aspect that only becomes clear with socionics. I think the christchurch shooter was also an EIE (who even said "subscribe to pewdiepie", another EIE, before his shooting). paradoxically, for this type the ideal is that everyone loves each other. from socionics researcher golihov:

    "Sometimes he can search for a place among the religious sects that preach the principle "love each other"."

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    hmm it's really shocking how many mass murderers are EIE. I guess this is an aspect that only becomes clear with socionics. I think the christchurch shooter was also an EIE (who even said "subscribe to pewdiepie", another EIE, before his shooting). paradoxically, for this type the ideal is that everyone loves each other. from socionics researcher golihov:

    "Sometimes he can search for a place among the religious sects that preach the principle "love each other"."
    It’s proof that Betas have no redeeming aspects, and their ideals are naught but hypocrisy! Down with Betas! It is necessary that they be removed from society for the good of everyone else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    It’s proof that Betas have no redeeming aspects, and their ideals are naught but hypocrisy! Down with Betas! It is necessary that they be removed from society for the good of everyone else!
    life would be really boring for me without IEI art though.
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    Furthermore, i consider that Betaville must be destroyed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    Kim Carlsson of DSBM/post-punk band Lifelover - IEI?

    Purely guessing here and could be totally wrong only first impressions, I'm saying SEI (?)

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    EIE

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    Dakota Blue Richards - IEI-Ni


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    Aleksey Zemskov (www3208ru) - ESTP


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    Girl at 1:14 - SLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    hmm it's really shocking how many mass murderers are EIE. I guess this is an aspect that only becomes clear with socionics. I think the christchurch shooter was also an EIE (who even said "subscribe to pewdiepie", another EIE, before his shooting). paradoxically, for this type the ideal is that everyone loves each other. from socionics researcher golihov:

    "Sometimes he can search for a place among the religious sects that preach the principle "love each other"."
    The Christchurch shooter shot a bunch of innocent people and treated it like a meme, he was a murdering psychopath, we cant fairly say that this is type related. I haven't seen much about him personally just what he had done, why do you think he was EIE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOutThere View Post
    The Christchurch shooter shot a bunch of innocent people and treated it like a meme, he was a murdering psychopath, we cant fairly say that this is type related. I haven't seen much about him personally just what he had done, why do you think he was EIE?
    it was a while ago so I don't really remember the details. the similarities to breivik (another EIE imo who has also been typed by gulenko) and the manifesto that he wrote made me type him as EIE. I think he was pretty much raised by the internet and considered muslims to be an inferior race that needed to be destroyed in favor of "his people", which was a huge indication for me towards Fe+Se valuing.

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    I can see EIE for both, I didn't know Gulenko typed Brevik. I don't know much about either of them. I think that its a sort of beta quadra thing to fetishize violence or a show of power. I think its a beta NF thing to feel like they need to act NOW on some trend they perceive that no one else really sees or cares about. A deranged EIE or IEI would feel compelled to act and their actions would probably lack proper measure already but they're insane so they'll be even more extreme. Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver is a good example of what I'm talking about.

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    This is a great example of dual relations between a beta ST and a beta NF. Jocko (the bald guy) only has military people on the podcast with a handful of exceptions, Jordan Peterson has been on multiple times.

    Yes, Jordan Peterson is a beta NF I know there are some people that don't agree with that. I could go on and on about why he is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOutThere View Post
    I can see EIE for both, I didn't know Gulenko typed Brevik. I don't know much about either of them. I think that its a sort of beta quadra thing to fetishize violence or a show of power. I think its a beta NF thing to feel like they need to act NOW on some trend they perceive that no one else really sees or cares about. A deranged EIE or IEI would feel compelled to act and their actions would probably lack proper measure already but they're insane so they'll be even more extreme. Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver is a good example of what I'm talking about.
    one thing that drives beta are very heavy and extreme emotions (Fe + Se). even small things can be a reason for joy or rage. interestingly, when you read about breivik, his prison cellmates describe him as a very friendly person. I think IEI are not inclined to do such extreme acts of violence though, because they only have one dimensional Se. it seems to me that they are more inclined to hurt themselves.

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    I agree, however, I also think that while IEIs do have one dimensional Se it is suggestive, this could get an IEI to start something they aren't really willing to finish. I do think IEIs (and ILIs) are more likely to be suicidal than violent. I can see a dominant Ni user likely to see everything as pointless in the end. Even EIE is named Hamlet, Hamlet's most famous line was "To be or not to be", the problem of existence seems to be a frequent problem among Ni users.

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    "Girl at 1:14" - N

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    SLE:


    maybe IEI:

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    I think this specimen belongs in here
    MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    I think this specimen belongs in here
    k4 had him typed LSI awhile back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    k4 had him typed LSI awhile back now.
    Yeah, he avoids direct contact and fights which is a better fit for LSI than for SLE.
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    Alan Wilder (Depeche Mode) EIE:


    Martin Gore (Depeche Mode) IEI:

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    Georg Trakl: IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/sp

    "Mother bore the infant in the white moon,


    In the shadow of the walnut tree, the ancient elder,


    Drunk with the juice of the poppy, the lament of the thrush;


    And silently


    A bearded face bent over her in compassion


    Quietly in the darkness of the window; and the old household goods


    Of the fathers


    Lay in decay; love and autumnal reverie.


    So dark the day of the year, sad childhood,


    When quietly the boy climbed down to cool waters, silver fishes,


    Rest and countenance;


    When stony he threw himself before raving black horses,


    In grey night his star came over him;


    Or when he walked at the freezing hand of the mother


    In the evening over Saint Peter's autumnal cemetery,


    A delicate corpse lay still in the darkness of the chamber


    And the other one raised the cold eyelids over him.


    But he was a small bird in bleak branches,


    The bell long in the November evening,


    The father's stillness, as in sleep he descended the dusking spiral stair."

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    Marie Bnz (BeautyMarieB) - INFP


    AnnaRvr (MllePeachy03) - ESTP


    Aleksa Onik - ESTP

    Michael Shayne Durden - LSI
    Georg Trakl - mb LSI
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    Riz Ahmed - IEI


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    Riz Ahmed - EIE

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    beta NF

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    EIE:

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    Mikhail Lermontov: EIE (and possibly the famous figure I'm most similar to in personality)



    "I'll hazard my life, even my honor, twenty times, but I will not sell my freedom. Why do I value it so much? What am I preparing myself for? What do I expect from the future? in fact, nothing at all."

    "Whether I am a fool or a villain I know not; but this is certain, I am also most deserving of pity – perhaps more so than she. My soul has been spoiled by the world, my imagination is unquiet, my heart insatiate. To me everything is of little moment. I have become as easily accustomed to grief as to joy, and my life grows emptier day by day."

    "My whole past life I live again in memory, and, involuntarily, I ask myself: 'why have I lived - for what purpose was I born?'... A purpose there must have been, and, surely, mine was an exalted destiny, because I feel that within my soul are powers immeasurable... But I was not able to discover that destiny, I allowed myself to be carried away by the allurements of passions, inane and ignoble. From their crucible I issued hard and cold as iron, but gone for ever was the glow of noble aspirations - the fairest flower of life. And, from that time forth, how often have I not played the part of an axe in the hands of fate! Like an implement of punishment, I have fallen upon the head of doomed victims, often without malice, always without pity... To none has my love brought happiness, because I have never sacrificed anything for the sake of those I have loved: for myself alone I have loved - for my own pleasure. I have only satisfied the strange craving of my heart, greedily draining their feelings, their tenderness, their joys, their sufferings - and I have never been able to sate myself. I am like one who, spent with hunger, falls asleep in exhaustion and sees before him sumptuous viands and sparkling wines; he devours with rapture the aerial gifts of the imagination, and his pains seem somewhat assuaged. Let him but awake: the vision vanishes - twofold hunger and despair remain!
    And tomorrow, it may be, I shall die!... And there will not be left on earth one being who has understood me completely. Some will consider me worse, others, better, than I have been in reality... Some will say: 'he was a good fellow'; others: 'a villain.' And both epithets will be false. After all this, is life worth the trouble? And yet we live - out of curiosity! We expect something new... How absurd, and yet how vexatious!"

    "I do not love you; the former dream
    Of passions and torments has passed by;
    But your image in my soul
    Is still alive, although it is powerless;
    Although I abandon myself to other dreams,
    I still cannot forget it;
    So an abandoned temple is still a temple,
    A dethroned idol — still a god!"

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    M. Illustrations (mrnppsc) - IEI
    @meruna


    Shepard Fairey - ESTP
    or LSI


    Stephane Paut 'Neige' - INFP
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    Rebecca Ferguson - ENFj ?


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    Kaceytron: SLE-Ti 7w8

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    Kaceytron - F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Kaceytron - F
    Lol how is Kaceytron an "F" hahahahaha

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    Neige may be a soft guy but he's done some really sick black metal vocals @Sol


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