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    Sophie Xeon - IEI


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    Udo Kier - IEI

    (german actor that played in films like Suspiria and Narcissus and Psyche)




    this is one of my favorite cinematic shots (from Narcissus and Psyche)


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    Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore - IEI


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    May LSI-H but turns into LSI-C towards the end. Desperately seeking Fe. Film is free.
    https://tubitv.com/video/376056


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    Grard Depardieu - IEI


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    @Alive WTF, der Alexander Gauland ist LSI!?

    wieso ist Amanda Palmer SLE? Ich verstehe nicht.. hab geglaubt Sie wre IEE oder EIE.. zu viel Fi.
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    EIE-D Katt Williams


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    This is his best one

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    e_e lol what Strat says about LSI-EIE duality sounds like the EIE will get chewed out and spat back up: In cases when the relationship seems to be "worth it", the LSI imparts on the partner the most well-disposed and favorable impression (on a maximum of his upbringing and education). If expectations are not justified, the LSI can likewise switch from the state of high chivalry to extreme rudeness: the LSI dislikes being taken for a "fool", being cheated, kept for an idiot, baited and switched – in such cases becomes offended, angry, and considers it his duty to punish the offender. If the "punishment" consists only of an angry verbal attack or a loud rebuke, it can be said that the offender got off easy. The LSI is unforgiving of hurtful jokes and ruses: as it is exactly when he's made such an important bet on tying a favorable and advantageous acquaintance with the goal of finding a life partner, that he least wants to be sent on a wild goose chase, to waste his time, his chances, strengths, and material resources on a "fake", that could lead to no end of troubles and prove to be a dangerous and unsound connection.

    the LSI-EIE relationship sounds fucking terrible tbh.. I'd probably dump the EIE as soon as this weird "lets fight!" drama discharge nature of her becomes apparent.. e_e and block every effing contact with her. Absolutely 0 need for that shit, my tolerance lvl for anything like that is 0.

    Srsly, read this shit: Hamlet loves to play the role of a uncontrollable, infernal being, a captive of his own raging emotions, and, at the same time, a prisoner of the circumstances, that do not allow him to express those emotions - a sort of a "genie sitting in a bottle", annoyed already by the fact that others are underestimating the danger of all that has accumulated in terms of this explosive energy, ignoring his condition, getting distracted by their mundane everyday affairs, which seem to be more important to them than the need to allow Hamlet to release on all of his "steam", a need which no one else recognizes as relevant, primary, and super-important, except for Hamlet EIE himself and his dual Maxim LSI. Not waiting for permission from the outside, Hamlet allows himself to "take his emotions for a walk", as dogs who have been sitting on a chain far too long, and releases them on whoever happened to be at hand. He, of course, doesn't take outsiders into account: with them, at least the first few minutes, Hamlet tries to communicate within the norms, although he makes it clear to them that he can explode at any second. It is worse for those people who cohabit and live with him: he slights them without any hesitation if they ignore his condition and disallow him to express aloud his grievances, demands, and complaints in a raised voice. When Hamlet finally "speaks out", he winds himself up more and more, begins to thicken emotional tones and colors, allowing for the greatest amount of emotions to boil over. For this he provokes a scandal, using any opportunity to "pose the question or issue point-blank". And it's not that there are many "questions" and "issues", but that there is a lot of "dark energy" ("condensed emotions") that have accumulated, which are necessary to express somehow, to spill out somewhere, to discharge, because "burning them through" by oneself is all very difficult. It's not pleasant to see how unrealized emotions – their value, unrealized strength, hope, energy, and aspirations – burn pointlessly, as "dry foliage". Thus the EIE "lights up" as if on gunpowder whenever he is not allowed (for whichever reasons) to successfully and creatively to realize his emotional and energy potential.

    REJECTED.. EIEs can fuck off kthx.



    /o\ I don't understand, why is my dual prone to drama and conflict, I hate both..lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post

    wieso ist Amanda Palmer SLE? Ich verstehe nicht.. hab geglaubt Sie wre IEE oder EIE.. zu viel Fi.
    could be actually. I've typed her a very long time ago. thanks for pointing it out. I will watch some interviews in the next days.

    regarding EIE, yeah I have the same problem. I find the constant drama rather irritating. my relationships with them usually don't last long.

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    Many years ago, my millionaire LSE buddy asked me to help his ne'er do well adult son establish a business so the son could be productive and happy, rather than unemployed and a constant thorn in my buddy's side.

    The business that his son wanted to start was making guitars out of carbon fiber, which could have a hugely profitable market if it were done right.

    The father rented a building, bought equipment to design and build molds for carbon fiber instruments, and his son started learning how to make carbon fiber musical instruments.

    Since he'd never really had a job before but was entirely in charge of this one, the son was having the time of his life. His father, on the other hand, was watching the money burn. They booked a booth at an industry trade show without a product, which put pressure on everyone, including me, to get a prototype built in time to show it off.

    The process of infusing epoxy into the carbon fiber in a mold was giving us problems. More equipment was purchased, including a vacuum chamber and an autoclave. The molds were extremely expensive and had insert parts to embed into the carbon fiber. We were breaking parts and breaking molds upon release and it seemed like we could not get a good part.

    Finally, about two days before the show, we managed to get a good part. The son destroyed the mold in removing it, but I thought, "Finally. We have something we can show. It doesn't really matter that it will take weeks to build another mold. Once we show this and get orders, we'll be on our way."

    The son proceeded to place two bricks on the floor, placed the guitar across them, and jumped on it until it broke. "Stress test", he said.

    At that point, I quit. We didn't have a product and we didn't have a mold and I was giving free time to a "business owner" who had no sense of doing business. I realized that the entire point of this exercise had never been to build a business, but rather it was a way for the son to dramatically and publicly stick it to his old man.

    I also realized something else. The son was an EIE.

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    Yung Bae EIE-D


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    @shotgunfingers you make a lot of posts about EIE being the worst and I think these descriptions aren’t wrong per se but they aren’t fully what EIE is IMO. Like you said yourself about LSI descriptions, they might vaguely be stuff you relate to but irl you are much more chill most of the time.

    I think myself and the EIEs I’ve known come off as normal and likeable 95% of the time. I don’t think people would describe us as difficult or combative. I would say the above description is true in that if I am upset, I want people to acknowledge it and I would get increasingly more restless and testy if they didn’t notice it, or worse - belittled it. My bf is forever saying shit like “why are you flipping out?” Or “I’ll just wait until you finish your tantrum.” Which causes me to go from a 6 to a 10 on an anger scale and “take my emotions for a walk.” But it is usually resolved quickly. We’ve never had a fight where we weren’t back to normal after a couple of hours.

    I’d never cause drama for the lulz. It’s more like, everything has deep significance so what might be a small slight to someone else is a major disrespect to me. It’s not that I’m playing a melodramatic part, it’s that life is a melodrama where everything that happens is of great importance.
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    EIE - Kerli


    succeeding sandcastles; hereafter,
    becoming antonymn to disaster

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    IEI - Simone Simons of Epica


    succeeding sandcastles; hereafter,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaveYourself View Post
    @shotgunfingers you make a lot of posts about EIE being the worst and I think these descriptions aren’t wrong per se but they aren’t fully what EIE is IMO. Like you said yourself about LSI descriptions, they might vaguely be stuff you relate to but irl you are much more chill most of the time.
    Yeah... tbh I relate a lot to the SLI description -.- including how Se and Ti is described there aka -Se and -Ti. By behavior minus my ability to read and understand ppl with ease I'm a rather stereotypical MBTI ISTP as well. LSI is supposed to care about rules, discipline and so on, but I just don't. It's supposed to also be a hard-ass disciplinarian or something and be okay with conflict. I dislike conflict, telling ppl what to do and coercion. It would be a big stretch to ever consider me a good candidate for administration, because I do not enforce structure, am lenient, stubborn/willful and react badly to external control as well. e_e on discord sometimes ppl joke I should be the one enforcing the rules cus LSI.. meanwhile I didn't even read the existing rules as I don't care about that lol.

    I think myself and the EIEs I’ve known come off as normal and likeable 95% of the time. I don’t think people would describe us as difficult or combative. I would say the above description is true in that if I am upset, I want people to acknowledge it and I would get increasingly more restless and testy if they didn’t notice it, or worse - belittled it. My bf is forever saying shit like “why are you flipping out?” Or “I’ll just wait until you finish your tantrum.” Which causes me to go from a 6 to a 10 on an anger scale and “take my emotions for a walk.” But it is usually resolved quickly. We’ve never had a fight where we weren’t back to normal after a couple of hours.
    that doesn't sound bad tbh I'd probably notice something is wrong in advance and nip it in the bud early. As I said, I'm very observant / read ppl with ease and I don't dismiss other ppl's feelings unless I dislike them or something. I'm talking about hysterics and such, emotional manipulation, causing drama, probably something different. I know a few ppl like that, would rather avoid them completely tbh, in fact I do. At any rate its a "I know it when I see it" kind of thing. Suffice to say thus far my interaction with EIE has been one mainly of conflict. Constantly small things seem to go wrong, stuff that in other relationships isn't a problem, either I get annoyed and distance myself or the EIE is upset and tries to pry into my internal life searching for things that don't exist. Really tiresome tbh, its even worse when this devolves into an negative feedback loop of me and the EIE annoying each-other by me distancing due to negative interaction with her, her panicking and nagging me about my distancing lol.. and no honest explanation on my part why this is happening seems to suffice. Once we solve one issue, the next one seems to appear.. \o/ effing stressful! I hate walking on eggshells..

    I’d never cause drama for the lulz. It’s more like, everything has deep significance so what might be a small slight to someone else is a major disrespect to me. It’s not that I’m playing a melodramatic part, it’s that life is a melodrama where everything that happens is of great importance.
    I hope ppl don't cause drama for the lulz. Its fairly easy to spot fakery tho, because its cringe or funny lol
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    I think Kamala Harris' stepdaughter Ella Emhoff might be an IEI. in some photos she looks a bit like grimes.

    https://www.instagram.com/ellaemhoff/?hl=de

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Emhoff


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    LSI-Se

    succeeding sandcastles; hereafter,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Song View Post
    LSI-Se

    I love this! I approve! EDIT: Me and this guy, similar thoughts, same wavelength.
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    Deebo SLE-D. Fe development is bankrolled into creating a very fearful, tense atmosphere that serves his Se to being top dog and he proves this by robbing ppl in his hood (Te).


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    Jrme Reuter LSI-C .. I thought IEI before seeing this, but he is very cold-blooded in communication style :/



    he makes music like this


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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Jrme Reuter LSI-C .. I thought IEI before seeing this, but he is very cold-blooded in communication style :/



    he makes music like this

    Yeah I agree he's definitely beta ST in that interview. His nonverbals seem close to mine and we even look kinda similar when I used to cut my hair short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Yeah I agree he's definitely beta ST in that interview. His nonverbals seem close to mine and we even look kinda similar when I used to cut my hair short.
    Yeah, you two kinda have similar faces. That very thought crossed my mind a few minutes in.

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    kinda weird to type people by their voice, but I think this guy is an LSI

    https://youtu.be/Qv6TpXHJTmU

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Yeah, you two kinda have similar faces. That very thought crossed my mind a few minutes in.
    I watched and thought about it more and I agree with LSI-C for him. We're similar but he seems slightly more introverted and less vulnerable in showing the role Fi (this is also especially noticeable in his music). It's like when he laughs it seems less conscious and more sincere. Like Fe is suddenly 'released from the chains' of leading Ti that keeps the expressions neutral and cold-blooded, it gives a contrast of seeming more innocent and dual-seeking to invite more Fe. Those moments reminded me a lot of my LSI-C friend. The difference between Fi polr / Fe HA vs Fi role / Fe DS.

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    Dita Von Teese - IEI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0sWhlhQHpQ

    pretty cool interview. I think she's a very interesting person.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHyIOIstYRA

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWBVFuVHfc

    She is e9 and he is drunk as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWBVFuVHfc

    She is e9 and he is drunk as hell.
    2 beta NFs in 1 video Dita IEI and Russel EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    kinda weird to type people by their voice, but I think this guy is an LSI

    https://youtu.be/Qv6TpXHJTmU
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    SLE Chael trolling EIE or SEE Tito. Lol


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    Chael is hilarious man I can't get enough of this guy lol.

    Super Ego Fight. IEE Vs SLE


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    Missy Elliot EIE-C


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    Do this couple look like LSI-EIE couple? Or SLI-IEE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moharu View Post
    Do this couple look like LSI-EIE couple? Or SLI-IEE?
    She looks too well put together to be intuitive tbh. They both look like sensors.
    Theoretically ppl who look neat, clean with a good assortment of clothes that fit color-wise and so on, ppl who take care of their own physical appearance to this degree are sensing types.

    I'd assume she is ESE. Idk about the guy. Could be LSI, unless she takes care of him, in which case might be LII.

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    Old man Kratos from GOW4 SLE - D. Reluctant dad of the year award kek


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    IEI sings about SLE dual


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    Tom (husband of Heidi Klum) and Bill Kaulitz - EIE




    they are identical twins that got famous with an emo song when they were children.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Sy5-sOodA

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