Socionics Beta types Examples

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

silke also types laoway86 as IEI.

thats cool but i think adam is right, SEI makes more sense

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LSI

ESFj?

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thats cool but i think adam is right, SEI makes more sense

I don't think it makes more sense. He is intuitive, not SF. Plus, I don't buy into Adam's concepts of SEI in the first place.

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

ESFj?

ive confused them with LSI before u may be right his voice is also gayish Fe ego men are the gayest

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in some angles he looks a bit like Thom Yorke

[nifl]

probably EIE

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

leutenant bullhead and leutenant tomahawk
they murdered LIE Ni chief sitting bull

they look almost exactly the same as 2 gypsy SLEs i got involved with. my nazi LIE friend hates gypsies. he is also LIE Ni and this is driving me insane. i want to post their pictures so bad for u to see the similarities but they asked me not to upload them anywhere.


their eyes say they have done bad things but it was out of necessity or they couldnt do any better anyway they cant be blamed and dont deserve to suffer or die for what they've done. i dont know if those images are prior to the murder. other ppl today's eyes are so naive happy go lucky in comparison

[Rusal]

IEI

Jeff Bezos with hair.

The Math Sorcerer reminds you of Bezos and, with a good eye, Bezos in turn should remind you of J.L Borges.




Borges.
prodigious memory
an erudite
plays close attention to contradictions
can prolong a conversation with witticisms
looks like he's playing an unnatural intellectual game with interviewers instead of having a real conversation
uses witticisms to defuse enthusiasm around him

Borges ILI not IEI as you typed him. Bezos mb same type as him if you go by impressions.

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Borges.
prodigious memory
an erudite
plays close attention to contradictions
can prolong a conversation with witticisms
looks like he's playing an unnatural intellectual game with interviewers instead of having a real conversation
uses witticisms to defuse enthusiasm around him

Borges ILI not IEI as you typed him. Bezos mb same type as him if you go by impressions.

I typed Borges as IEI years ago. He has been in my gallery for a long time now. Thanks for pointing out the similarities.

https://www.newsnpr.org/wp-content/u...-of-public.jpg

Fe PolR I guess

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you know, I watched that clip for at least half a dozen times over the years, and I also shared it with a bunch of friends

"I believe that if you can focus obsessivly on customer experience, selection, ease of use, low prices. if you can give customers all that plus great customer service, then I think you have a good chance"

@1:43

I shared it because I felt that the video was excellent at showcasing what Ni is in practice. you can clearly see that he has a vision and plan for the future, and that he is convinced that his predictions will work out. it's easier to realize it now because what he predicted actually happened. I do not like Bezos personally, and I don't like amazon, but it's clear to me that he is gifted and wanted to achieve something new, which in my opinion is Ni+, while Ni- (in my opinion!) focuses more on the past and already existing things and how to make them more efficient. the way bezos talks about customer support as the most important thing, it reminds me of the Elon Musk video that I shared yesterday in his thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlZJjNh1Mw

"I pick a person for my team based on a gut feeling that I have about them"
"there's no need to even have a college degree at all, or even high school"

"Generally, my advice or recommendation would really be spend less time on finance, spend less time in conference rooms, less time on PowerPoint and more time on making your product as amazing as possible. There should be more focus on the product, the service itself, less time on board meetings, less time on financials"

@5:00


Elon Musk - IEI-D, Jeff Bezos IEI-N imo

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IEI

[Rusal]

Elon Musk - IEI-D

He's LSI, but you're not ready to have this conversation.

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He's LSI, but you're not ready to have this conversation.

Be honest Rusal, did you come to that conclusion by yourself, or did the fact that Gulenko types him as LSI influence your decision?

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

the guy seems EIE

[Rusal]

Be honest Rusal, did you come to that conclusion by yourself, or did the fact that Gulenko types him as LSI influence your decision?

It's a vote in favor of Gulenko's conclusion based on people I know that correspond to the same type and subtype of Musk so the impression is not far off in general and incredibly close in one of them.

Revise what LSIs are about and think about how that applies to real people. Ask yourself why they're (or a good number of them) always striving for more, there's always something extra they can do to get more credits at school and get further in life, maybe if they force themselves to do a little bit more more, the software they have running in terms of society and the collective and how their psychological make-up helps them insert themselves the structure/system no problem and climb higher, get the position and place they've been aiming at for maybe years. From there to "I'm on board with putting people on Mars because it's a big step for humanity, let me work 57494 hours to get it done" is not that big of a jump. LSI is a very self-edifying type, it's one of the few types that can stop a class as everyone is happily leaving for the weekend and ask for further study into something that caught their attention. “I know how to analyze the story in its written form, can we please watch the film some other class to see the director's take on it?”. An idea of landing in some other planet can take hold of a child's mind as just as easy he collects and collects information for years and the idea simmers.

And you have a strange conception of TiSe, particularly of how it should manifest with the presentation of masculinity. Well, yeah, some LSI can look more masculine next to an IEI I guess. The LSIs I know are more like the example Berdutina has at 1:27. Pedantic subtype, let's call it. Actually, watch the whole video, it's good.

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It's a vote in favor of Gulenko's conclusion based on people I know that correspond to the same type and subtype of Musk so the impression is not far off in general and incredibly close in one of them.

you are taking the few sentences about LSI that I wrote too seriously. it's not my complete perception of this type, but according to Gulenko, sensing types don't really invent things. he literally writes in his book that they prefer pragmatism over everything else. how do you explain Elon Musk (and I don't even like him all that much) being a pragmatic sensing type when he is truly visionairy, involved in a variety of fields (irrationality), cares about the emotions of his team (as written by me in the thread about him), chooses employees depending on a gut feeling he has about them, not caring about degrees and education (the latter are clearly pragmatic ways to judge someones capabilities, while the former is an intuitive approach). he is involved in a myriad of relationships even though gulenko writes in his book that cold-blooded types have the least amount of marriages and are not inclined to re-marry. he has 9 fucking children all with women who are artistically creative. the way I see it, you have made up your mind about his type and due to ignoring Ne and being a normalizing subtype you deliberately ignore these points because it annoys you to be confronted with a new perspective when an authority figure like gulenko has typed him as LSI.

the whole concept that the majority of people here are LSI seems so bizarre to me I don't understand how he comes to that perspective. it must be because he mostly interacts with this type in eastern europe, thinking it also applies to the west. but whatever, he's the guy that everyone looks up to here, so I guess my perception is invalid to most people, even though Gulenko describes IEI as being a dreamer and Visionairy in the first sentence of his type description. I do not really care all that much about convincing people here. if they want to think they are mostly sensing types, fine. I just do my own research, but I do shake my head at the absurdity of it all.

[Rusal]

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types don't really invent things. he literally writes in his book that they prefer pragmatism over everything else. how do you explain Elon Musk (and I don't even like him all that much) being a pragmatic sensing type when he is truly visionairy, involved in a variety of fields (irrationality), cares about the emotions of his team (as written by me in the thread about him), chooses employees depending on a gut feeling he has about them, not caring about degrees and education (the latter are clearly pragmatic ways to judge someones capabilities, while the former is an intuitive approach). he is involved in a myriad of relationships even though gulenko writes in his book that cold-blooded types have the least amount of marriages and are not inclined to re-marry. he has 9 fucking children all with women who are artistically creative. the way I see it, you have made up your mind about his type and due to ignoring Ne and being a normalizing subtype you deliberately ignore these points because it annoys you to be confronted with a new perspective when an authority figure like gulenko has typed him as LSI.

I did a quick ctrl+F search in G.'s book. Pragmatism is employed also for all of gamma and LIEs in particular. Then again ‘pragmatism’ has a meaning for that quadra, but Beta, all of them are viewed as “big dreamers” from Delta. In that context, Musk is an engineer that has always been interested in the topic of technology and space, because LSI accumulates information and works persistently + LSI make good technicians. Probably Musk has some of them (LSI engineers) working in his team alongside LSI technicians, twitching pieces as they move along. Don't these people know they're redesigning things? An LSI told me once he was obsessed with how x type of machines work. When said machine undergoes a change, a redesign in the future that transforms it it's moderately likely a LSI is going to be behind it. I really don't understand the scope of the claim “they don't invent things” and it reads particularly misconstrued. I really, really think you're of misunderstanding LSIs and you've shown sings of not grasping the type:

What is your understanding of LSIs, finally? Do you think someone like Berdutina's example is ok if I apply the usual traits of pedantry typical of base type to him? Or is it impossible because he's not manly enough? For some crazy reason, the kid that stops the flow of the class because he spotted a misprint in your mind reads as the ragged macho and not the pseudointellectualoid dweeb they tend to be…

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IEI

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

LSI

[Rusal]

Louise Mench - SLE-Ti. Nice to see a female of that subtype.

[Renna]

Probably LSI. He has 4d Si for sure, and the game he criticizes probaly design by some Si polr, despite that he like the game:

[Rusal]

I have to say I'm puzzled by the earnest suggestion of Alain Delon as IEI.

In this interview he displays none of the ‘sincere’ communication style IEIs have.

He even looks angry during the whole thing but that is because he communicates in a very drumming, no-nonsense ‘cold-blooded’ style.

He says, without missing a beat, that he considers himself a man of action. The fact that it comes so naturally and quickly to him and that the statement tags so seamlessly to the rest of his speech for the whole scrap tell me it's true that it's closer to the truth rather than an IEI pretending to save face. An IEI, for starters, would have a really hard time saying out loud that he's a man of action. This is a painful spot for IEIs, difficult even in conversation and something they feel very self–conscious about.

Communication-wise IEI with SLE this is how it works: both types meet superficially, still with the baggage of other less favorable ITR then dualization ends up with the SLE expanding unchecked and the IEI becoming ‘their true self’: a more silent, nice and accommodating version of what's already there. But the IEI is always, whether dualized or not, adjusting to his or her conversation partner and visibly ethical.

I feel Delon's communication style so much precisely because I have experience with men like him and I'm always guarded about them at first: their “cold-blooded” style can land him on LSI and SLI and make the whole experience totally different. Gulenko types him LSI and he walks a fine line between quasi-identicals.

Quadra outsiders can decrete types using original external parameters and it’s ok because other quadras can seem a bit of a puzzle to most of as, but intraquadra ITR have these nuances that are harder to escape.

[Adam Strange]

LSI Roy Clark, Folsom Prison Blues

[Renna]

Dante - SLE - C "Bad boy"





Him and ESI mean girl

Bayonetta - LSI?

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IEI, when Ni gets a bit out of control. seems friendly, but there's definitely a disregard for reality going on.

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Erling Haaland - LSI-D
Magnus Carlsen - LSI-C
Khabib Nurmagomedov - LSI-C
Vladimir Putin - LSI-N

https://youtu.be/FcEq0TYG4So

https://mobile.twitter.com/MagnusCar...24528275099650

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

IEI, when Ni gets a bit out of control. seems friendly, but there's definitely a disregard for reality going on.

its a LIE i realize the whole wolf shit is Se HA

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I'm not really sure if you understand what Te means if you think the wolf person is an LIE

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IEI, when Ni gets a bit out of control. seems friendly, but there's definitely a disregard for reality going on.

mentally ill ISFp are always weird to me.

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IEI

SEI, LII activity. Cute.

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IEI

Dan Blizerian in 40 years.

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mentally ill ISFp are always weird to me.

So let me get this straight: you believe that this person, that made up an entire imaginative identity far removed from the real world, is a sensing type??

Can you please explain your own definition of the sensing/intuition dichotomy? Because it sure doesn't correlate to socionics sources.

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So let me get this straight: you believe that this person, that made up an entire imaginative reality far removed from the real world, is a sensing type??

Can you please explain your own definition of the sensing/intuition dichotomy? Because it sure doesn't correlate to socionics sources.

Introverted sensing, its always particular to the person. That bedroom is like some kitchy Si-Fe shit.

[Rusal]

Erling Haaland - LSI-D

LSI-D for him is unlikely and LSI also unlikely I think. I've now seen enough footage of him to recognize him in similar men. People like Haaland are hard work for IEIs, I know that. Blaecaedre suggested LSE for Haaland. Maybe. LSI-IEI activity relationships are easy to start: typically some teasing comment paves the way. LSI are Fe seeking so they are more engaged and engaging. D subtype would make them fit all too well into a structure and be able to smoothly move up on top of having more focused energy.

Jorge Videla, dictator, is a much better example of LSI-D (or LSI alone) than Haaland. He came to power to ‘order’ society, fight against ‘subversive elements’ who damaging the precepts of God, Family and the Fatherland; coined the phrase “The Argentine people are righteous and humane”; stressed any time he could his call and duty to the Nation and post Dictatorship authors wrote of his monk-like lifestyle.

This video is excellent because he's more like the LSIs I know.. The way he smiles at 5:13 is very characteristic of LSIs.- (I find all of him very LSI)





This is the face of LSI-D subtype that is a precise, persistent, ‘dutiful’ agent of order that comes to inject structure along with the EIE.





Haaland's unbothered attitude is not one Fe egos can connect with and he's probably immune to Fe (along with other traits I cannot sense in him).

[Rusal]

Karl Urban - mb SLE

[nifl]

most likely IEI

[Rusal]

David Saavedra (the bald guy). SLE. Not in English sorry, but just a reminder that a t-shirt with a design is not 'artistic IEI'.

[Nephilthoth]

Karl Urban - mb SLE

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No indication of irrationality. Se creative.

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IEI

[AWellArmedCat]

He's LSI, but you're not ready to have this conversation.

I always thought he was ILI or LIE, but I haven't really thought about his type that hard tbh