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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    You are also awful in typing, so you have no room to comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    The girl seems like an EII to me. I mean, look at how infantile she comes off, and look at those Si pillows in the background.

    And her interviewer, who seems enraptured by her, is probably SLI. (Activity)

    BUT, she swears. I might lead a sheltered life, but I just don't hear Deltas swearing very much. The only other type that her video causes to come to mind would be ESE, but I don't know enough ESE's to know for sure. Maybe she's just a very extroverted EII.
    Shes defo an extrovert just put EII out of ur mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    EII do swear, as do IEE. Sol would say otherwise.
    as Fi valued types are more serious to say a truth (Te) they should swear _lesser_ to have lesser risk to break own promise. more it's about J types. IEE in my limited experience were easy to say and do nothing, to take something "on a time" and return after everyone forgotten they took it, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    You are also awful in typing, so you have no room to comment.
    hence, as I did a comment, I should be not so awful
    also my typing skills would change nothing in the situation

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    Amy Turk -IEI



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    type should be obvious, whaddya say @soundofconfusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post


    type should be obvious, whaddya say @soundofconfusion
    I remember listening to Figure 8 a couple of times some years ago, but I didn't develop an interest in his music. I always thought that he was most likely an NF type. in the interviews I've seen of him, he comes off as a very introverted person that's detached from reality. what's your opinion?

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    EIE

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    Igor Sechin [0:55] - ESTP

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    Pop Culture Shock - ISTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    "Girl at 1:14" - N
    without any other rationale by process of elimination - enfj then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    without any other rationale by process of elimination - enfj then?
    ENFJ or ENTP

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    Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: EIE 3w4

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    Voltaire - EIE



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    for everyone that wants to read more about her:

    https://arxiv.org/abs/1406.7401

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    David Badurina - mb ESTP

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    LSI

    very fascinating woman

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    Katrina - ENFJ

    Grace Hopper - N

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Grace Hopper - N
    @9:10 in my video

    I think we lost our leadership, because back in the old days when I went into the navy, one of the first things we learned was the quality of leadership, there was loyalty up, and loyalty down, respect your superior, keep him informed of what you're up to and take care of your crew, and that's what we lost somewhere. you manage things, and you lead people, and I think we failed to accept that responsibilty.

    I think the reason we lost this is because of a tremendous push to financial management, the business schools taught it, it spread through the colleges. the whole thing was managment, not leadership.


    how is this an N trait? seems strongly leaning towards beta and S.

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    I have to say that: as vulnerable functions seems absurd to me for Grace Hopper.

    One phrase from her:
    “The most dangerous phrase in the language is, 'We’ve always done it this way.'” — She definetly valued innovation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    I have to say that: as vulnerable functions seems absurd to me for Grace Hopper.

    One phrase from her:
    “The most dangerous phrase in the language is, 'We’ve always done it this way.'” — She definetly valued innovation.

    hmm but what type would she be then? she's clearly valuing Se and not an alpha NT. she also doesn't seem to have gamma values and it's imo clear that she's a logical type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    hmm but what type would she be then? she's clearly valuing Se and not an alpha NT. she also doesn't seem to have gamma values and it's imo clear that she's a logical type.
    I'd say LIE for her, even she doesn't show typical gamma values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    how is this an N trait?
    Do not type by random words people which you do not know personally. Such people should be typed by special typing methods (tests, typing questionnaires) or by nonverbal, - as the main approach.

    There is nothing in that text to be sure in S type. She is about subordinancy and duties, much by Ti region. Even if there would be more specific for S type, some public words are lesser important than nonverbal. As nonverbal is more global about the personality and is more stable for external influences.

    Take descriptions of 4 dichotomies and 8 functions. Clearly understand the difference between them. And then try to intuitively feel to which ones a human is closer. So you'll do lesser mistakes with famouses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    There is nothing in that text to be sure in S type. She is about subordinancy and duties, much by Ti region.
    so you're saying that she's leaning towards Ti too? what type would you suggest? there aren't many other options. I think it's strange that you lecture me here when you type women that pop balloons in their videos without saying a word tbh. you really need to work on the way you write. you come off as extremly arrogant.

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    @soundofconfusion You yourself made a whole bunch of posts on this page typing people with no explanation. Why would you pick something so obviously hypocritical to lecture Sol about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    @soundofconfusion You yourself made a whole bunch of posts on this page typing people with no explanation. Why would you pick something so obviously hypocritical to lecture Sol about.

    because he send me this exact same message several times now. you need to learn more about model A, "Take descriptions of 4 dichotomies and 8 functions. Clearly understand the difference between them.", and I've explained him several times that I build a german website on socionics with around a thousand pages of translations doing exactly what he claims I should do for 4 years now. it becomes irritating to me. (http://soziotypen.de/theorie/)

    you can believe my typings or not, that's up to you. I will explain them when I feel like it or have time, which is not often the case, and I'm open about changing my typings when someone presents new evidence. (I personally think that sol is pretty bad at typing, so it's hard for me to take him seriously, my own opinion I guess).

    Winnie's suggestion was constructive without him being arrogant about it. I think that's more helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    because he send me this exact same message several times now. you need to learn more about model A, "Take descriptions of 4 dichotomies and 8 functions. Clearly understand the difference between them.", and I've explained him several times that I build a german website on socionics with around a thousand pages of translations doing exactly what he claims I should do for 4 years now. it becomes irritating to me. (http://soziotypen.de/theorie/)

    you can believe my typings or not, that's up to you. I will explain them when I feel like it or have time, which is not often the case, and I'm open about changing my typings when someone presents new evidence. (I personally think that sol is pretty bad at typing, so it's hard for me to take him seriously, my own opinion I guess).

    Winnie's suggestion was constructive without him being arrogant about it. I think that's more helpful
    If you’re really above his level, ignore him. Don’t let him make you behave like an arrogant, foolish hypocrite yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    If you’re really above his level, ignore him. Don’t let him make you behave like an arrogant, foolish hypocrite yourself.

    fair enough. I just feel an immense irritation from him, because I read a lot about the people I type (sometimes several hours), discuss my typings with friends, and then sol comes in and it's clear to me that he hasn't read a single thing about the person and writes "mb F type". that's my personal problem I guess but I can't do much about it.

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    Hopping back to Grace Hopper. Ok, misdirected bad wordplay, should've gone to /dev/null. Data garbage collection error.

    vulnerable to my understanding is basically the fear of unknown aspects in life, which I can't see in Grace Hopper.

    Two quotes from her from the linked video starting at 11:02
    "...risks. Bigger awards got to people that take the big risks. ...A ship in a port is safe, but that is not what ships are build for."

    And she seems a creative subtype to me...


    LSI tend to use in much more focused and specific way. They don't value or dislike talking about hypothetical scenarios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Hopping back to Grace Hopper. Ok, misdirected bad wordplay, should've gone to /dev/null. Data garbage collection error.

    vulnerable to my understanding is basically the fear of unknown aspects in life, which I can't see in Grace Hopper.

    Two quotes from her from the linked video starting at 11:02
    "...risks. Bigger awards got to people that take the big risks. ...A ship in a port is safe, but that is not what ships are build for."

    And she seems a creative subtype to me...

    I think some other quotes are more interesting

    https://www.thoughtco.com/grace-hopper-quotes-3530092

    it does seem to me that she's very open about new ideas, risking things, so LIE seems like a valid suggestion. I initially ruled that type out because of her negative comments about management and business etc.

    I don't think she's a creative subtype. normalising fits her better, especially because this subtype has a Ti accentuation. maybe I will create a thread about creative subtypes in the future, they are very emotionally expressive because of their Fe accentuation. you would type me as an extrovert if you met me in person for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    fair enough. I just feel an immense irritation from him, because I read a lot about the people I type (sometimes several hours), discuss my typings with friends, and then sol comes in and it's clear to me that he hasn't read a single thing about the person and writes "mb F type". that's my personal problem I guess but I can't do much about it.
    Lmao. Yeah, that’s exactly why everybody already ignores Sol. Don’t worry about him.

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    @WinnieW





    watched more of her videos and I'm really leaning strongly towards IEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Yeah, that’s exactly why everybody already ignores Sol. Don’t worry about him.
    The problem of F types alike you and soundofconfusion that you tend to ignore the reason. That's what you should worry about.

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    Sol why the fuck are you on a forum where you’ve typed almost everyone on it as your conflictor lmao

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    Grace Hopper seems LSI. Military, leader, math, detailed and clear lack of emotional pressure although she seemed to give dramatic lessons for stupid people and wanted to give lots of minimal time based symbolism for concrete objects.
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