Shoko Asahara is doubtful to be EIE. too calm one
Simon Whistler mb EII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-X7sBE5f78
Shoko Asahara is doubtful to be EIE. too calm one
Simon Whistler mb EII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-X7sBE5f78
Kim Carlsson of DSBM/post-punk band Lifelover - IEI?
hmm it's really shocking how many mass murderers are EIE. I guess this is an aspect that only becomes clear with socionics. I think the christchurch shooter was also an EIE (who even said "subscribe to pewdiepie", another EIE, before his shooting). paradoxically, for this type the ideal is that everyone loves each other. from socionics researcher golihov:
"Sometimes he can search for a place among the religious sects that preach the principle "love each other"."
Furthermore, i consider that Betaville must be destroyed!
EIE
Dakota Blue Richards - IEI-Ni
Aleksey Zemskov (www3208ru) - ESTP
Makeup on a leash - ESTP
Girl at 1:14 - SLE
it was a while ago so I don't really remember the details. the similarities to breivik (another EIE imo who has also been typed by gulenko) and the manifesto that he wrote made me type him as EIE. I think he was pretty much raised by the internet and considered muslims to be an inferior race that needed to be destroyed in favor of "his people", which was a huge indication for me towards Fe+Se valuing.
I can see EIE for both, I didn't know Gulenko typed Brevik. I don't know much about either of them. I think that its a sort of beta quadra thing to fetishize violence or a show of power. I think its a beta NF thing to feel like they need to act NOW on some trend they perceive that no one else really sees or cares about. A deranged EIE or IEI would feel compelled to act and their actions would probably lack proper measure already but they're insane so they'll be even more extreme. Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver is a good example of what I'm talking about.
This is a great example of dual relations between a beta ST and a beta NF. Jocko (the bald guy) only has military people on the podcast with a handful of exceptions, Jordan Peterson has been on multiple times.
Yes, Jordan Peterson is a beta NF I know there are some people that don't agree with that. I could go on and on about why he is one.
one thing that drives beta are very heavy and extreme emotions (Fe + Se). even small things can be a reason for joy or rage. interestingly, when you read about breivik, his prison cellmates describe him as a very friendly person. I think IEI are not inclined to do such extreme acts of violence though, because they only have one dimensional Se. it seems to me that they are more inclined to hurt themselves.
I agree, however, I also think that while IEIs do have one dimensional Se it is suggestive, this could get an IEI to start something they aren't really willing to finish. I do think IEIs (and ILIs) are more likely to be suicidal than violent. I can see a dominant Ni user likely to see everything as pointless in the end. Even EIE is named Hamlet, Hamlet's most famous line was "To be or not to be", the problem of existence seems to be a frequent problem among Ni users.
"Girl at 1:14" - N
SLE:
maybe IEI:
I think this specimen belongs in here
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Alan Wilder (Depeche Mode) EIE:
Martin Gore (Depeche Mode) IEI:
Georg Trakl: IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/sp
"Mother bore the infant in the white moon,
In the shadow of the walnut tree, the ancient elder,
Drunk with the juice of the poppy, the lament of the thrush;
And silently
A bearded face bent over her in compassion
Quietly in the darkness of the window; and the old household goods
Of the fathers
Lay in decay; love and autumnal reverie.
So dark the day of the year, sad childhood,
When quietly the boy climbed down to cool waters, silver fishes,
Rest and countenance;
When stony he threw himself before raving black horses,
In grey night his star came over him;
Or when he walked at the freezing hand of the mother
In the evening over Saint Peter's autumnal cemetery,
A delicate corpse lay still in the darkness of the chamber
And the other one raised the cold eyelids over him.
But he was a small bird in bleak branches,
The bell long in the November evening,
The father's stillness, as in sleep he descended the dusking spiral stair."
Marie Bnz (BeautyMarieB) - INFP
AnnaRvr (MllePeachy03) - ESTP
Aleksa Onik - ESTP
Michael Shayne Durden - LSI
Georg Trakl - mb LSI
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Riz Ahmed - IEI
Riz Ahmed - EIE
beta NF
EIE:
Mikhail Lermontov: EIE (and possibly the famous figure I'm most similar to in personality)
"I'll hazard my life, even my honor, twenty times, but I will not sell my freedom. Why do I value it so much? What am I preparing myself for? What do I expect from the future? in fact, nothing at all."
"Whether I am a fool or a villain I know not; but this is certain, I am also most deserving of pity – perhaps more so than she. My soul has been spoiled by the world, my imagination is unquiet, my heart insatiate. To me everything is of little moment. I have become as easily accustomed to grief as to joy, and my life grows emptier day by day."
"My whole past life I live again in memory, and, involuntarily, I ask myself: 'why have I lived - for what purpose was I born?'... A purpose there must have been, and, surely, mine was an exalted destiny, because I feel that within my soul are powers immeasurable... But I was not able to discover that destiny, I allowed myself to be carried away by the allurements of passions, inane and ignoble. From their crucible I issued hard and cold as iron, but gone for ever was the glow of noble aspirations - the fairest flower of life. And, from that time forth, how often have I not played the part of an axe in the hands of fate! Like an implement of punishment, I have fallen upon the head of doomed victims, often without malice, always without pity... To none has my love brought happiness, because I have never sacrificed anything for the sake of those I have loved: for myself alone I have loved - for my own pleasure. I have only satisfied the strange craving of my heart, greedily draining their feelings, their tenderness, their joys, their sufferings - and I have never been able to sate myself. I am like one who, spent with hunger, falls asleep in exhaustion and sees before him sumptuous viands and sparkling wines; he devours with rapture the aerial gifts of the imagination, and his pains seem somewhat assuaged. Let him but awake: the vision vanishes - twofold hunger and despair remain!
And tomorrow, it may be, I shall die!... And there will not be left on earth one being who has understood me completely. Some will consider me worse, others, better, than I have been in reality... Some will say: 'he was a good fellow'; others: 'a villain.' And both epithets will be false. After all this, is life worth the trouble? And yet we live - out of curiosity! We expect something new... How absurd, and yet how vexatious!"
"I do not love you; the former dream
Of passions and torments has passed by;
But your image in my soul
Is still alive, although it is powerless;
Although I abandon myself to other dreams,
I still cannot forget it;
So an abandoned temple is still a temple,
A dethroned idol — still a god!"
M. Illustrations (mrnppsc) - IEI
@meruna
Shepard Fairey - ESTP
or LSI
Stephane Paut 'Neige' - INFP
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Rebecca Ferguson - ENFj ?
Kaceytron: SLE-Ti 7w8
Kaceytron - F
Neige may be a soft guy but he's done some really sick black metal vocals @Sol