Socionics Beta types Examples

**Kill4Me** · 11-16-2015, 01:44 AM

Carlos Lehder Rivas....SLE-Se 7w8 so/sp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Lehder

Supporters and detractors in Colombia spare no hyperbole in describing Lehder.

"He has turned into a martyr, just as Martin Luther King Jr. in the United States, as Gandhi, as Jesus Christ in the Catholic Church," asserted Lionel Davila Marin, press secretary for Lehder's National Latin Movement.

"A homegrown ******," charged Miguel Sanchez Mendoz, the Colombian deputy attorney general in charge of the narcotics unit of the judicial police.

http://miamiarchives.blogspot.com/20...der-rivas.html

**Sol** · 11-16-2015, 08:37 AM

Carlos Lehder Rivas - ISFJ(?)

**Sol** · 11-21-2015, 10:47 PM

a man with Cross of George - ISTJ

Magadan - ISTJ

**Beautiful sky** · 11-24-2015, 04:18 PM

Mila Jovovich is SLE

**wacey** · 11-24-2015, 08:16 PM

Aww, yes. Megadan has the distinctive LSI moustache.

**Sol** · 11-25-2015, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by wacey

distinctive LSI moustache.

yep. one of Universe's mysteries

Vlad Cepes - ISTJ

**Kalinoche buenanoche** · 11-25-2015, 09:36 PM

11:18 woman in red ENFj woman in dark blue INFj

**Sol** · 12-03-2015, 11:55 AM

Man-At-Arms - ISTJ

**suedehead** · 12-04-2015, 03:15 AM

Tae Seng - SLE E8

**suedehead** · 12-04-2015, 03:26 AM

Angry Taiwanese guy - SLE

**silke** · 12-04-2015, 09:17 AM

guess the type

**Sol** · 12-04-2015, 07:28 PM

Angry Taiwanese guy - ISTJ

**Kill4Me** · 12-20-2015, 12:26 AM

Courtney Love (SLE-Se)

Richard Ramirez (SLE-Se)

Robert Evans (SLE-Se)

socionics is distinguished from mbti in 2 major ways:

1) VI
2) Intertype relations

**Kill4Me** · 12-21-2015, 04:52 PM

Amanda Palmer (EIE-Fe)

Pekka Siitoin (EIE-Fe 6w7 sx/sp)

Naomi Campbell (EIE-Fe 3w2 so/sp)

Azealia Banks (EIE-Fe 3w2 so/sx)

That's the basic eye template for EIE-Fe. Anybody with a brain can make a fluffy conceptual argument for somebody being one type or another. OJ Simpson's lawyers were able to convince a jury that OJ was not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They were able to do that because the prosecution didn't have actual footage of the murder. In a case like that, fluff arguments can win even when you don't have the objective reality to point at, even when the former opposes the latter. If the jury possessed the objective facts in question, OJ wouldn't have had a chance. However, in socionics, fluffy conceptual arguments only win when you have the hard, objective reality to point at. The eyes are the objective facts. To the extent one draws a conclusion from those eyes, well, that's subjective, however, the bias is so low in that case as to be irrelevant.

**Sol** · 12-24-2015, 11:46 AM

Amanda Palmer - ESTP
Naomi Campbell - INTP
Azealia Banks - INFP(?)

**Kill4Me** · 12-26-2015, 05:06 AM

"I'm sorry phil but you really blow."

Natalie Jacobson....SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/sp

Natalie comes in through Althea Flynt (SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/sp):

"8 sexual - Anti-social tendency. Rebellious. More provacative than SO, SP. Out front saying "my values are different from the norm". Hysterical, emotional 8. Possession of the scene in total, a little like being the center. Power comes through seductiveness and fascination. Colored feathers." (Naranjo)

the other guests:

Todd…LSI 6w5 sx/sp
Christine….EII 9w1 sx/so
Ray....SEE 9w8 so/sx
Debbie…ESI 6w5 sp/sx
Dr. Joy Browne…IEE 2w1 so/sp

**Kill4Me** · 01-03-2016, 03:05 PM

Madonna...SLE-Se 3w4 sx/so

some self-exposition starting at 0:55: "i used to torture weaker children in the neighborhood..."

interviewer: "whats the worst part about being famous?"
madonna: "answering stupid questions."

**Kill4Me** · 01-05-2016, 03:37 PM

Bam Margera, Tyra Banks...

Amanda Palmer (EIE-Fe)

Pekka Siitoin (EIE-Fe)

Azealia Banks (EIE-Fe)

Naomi Campbell (EIE-Fe)

Tyra Banks (EIE-Fe)

Bam Margera (EIE-Fe)

**Sol** · 01-05-2016, 06:08 PM

Bam Margera - ESFP(?)

**Sol** · 01-07-2016, 09:51 AM

CutiePieMariza - ENTP

**Kill4Me** · 01-08-2016, 05:23 AM

Dick Cheney....LSI-Ti

Eduard Basurin...LSI-Ti

Vladimir Putin...LSI-Ti

**Kill4Me** · 01-08-2016, 05:29 AM

Clint Eastwood...LSI-Se

Steve Mcqueen...LSI-Se

Charles Bronson...LSI-Se

Lee Van Cleef...LSI-Se

**Sol** · 01-08-2016, 04:09 PM

Bronson, Eastwood - yes
Eduard Basurin - N, mb ENTJ
Putin - INTP

**Kill4Me** · 01-10-2016, 03:07 AM

Ernest Hemingway....SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp

big game hunter

**Sol** · 01-10-2016, 06:00 PM

Tana Mongeau - F

**Kill4Me** · 01-11-2016, 03:47 PM

Ty Cobb...SLE-Ti 8w7

Comes in through a solid 8-pack VI chain

Pink (SLE-Ti):

Megan Fox (SLE-Ti):

Lindsay Lohan (SLE-Ti):

Sasha Grey (SLE-Ti):

Joey Merlino (SLE-Ti)

Althea Flynt (SLE-Ti):

Gia Carangi (SLE-Ti)

Otep Shamaya (SLE-Ti):

Ty Cobb (SLE-Ti):

there's typing with confidence and then typing with competence. anybody can make a confident argument for somebody being a type. OJ's defense team was able to get him off the hook with a confident argument. But that doesn't mean he didn't do it.

but to type with competence requires a mastery over nature and an ability to base your argument in reality. VI is the most natural and objective form of typing….It undercuts all those socially, economically constructed differences/similarities between people. It is also a core part of what distinguishes socionics from mbti....as are subtypes. I mean, let's face it. Anybody that rejects subtypes is living in the stone age.

**Kill4Me** · 01-15-2016, 04:48 PM

Courtney Love (SLE-Se)

Nancy Spungen (SLE-Se)

Madonna (SLE-Se)

Deborah Harry (SLE-Se)

Iggy Pop (SLE-Se)

Roseanne Barr (SLE-Se)

**Kill4Me** · 01-20-2016, 07:26 AM

Ernest Hemingway (SLE-Ti)

Mike Tyson (SLE-Ti)

**Kill4Me** · 01-31-2016, 02:15 PM

Ben Affleck (EIE-Ni)

Dakota Skye (EIE-Ni)

Mystery (EIE-Ni)

Robert Downey Jr (EIE-Ni)

David Bowie (EIE-Ni)

Pamela Anderson (EIE-Ni)

**Kill4Me** · 02-03-2016, 01:53 AM

Lorde (IEI-Fe)

Fiona Apple (IEI-Fe)

Kate Bush (IEI-Fe)

Emily Haines (IEI-Fe)

Goldie Hawn (IEI-Fe)

Angelina Jolie (IEI-Fe)

Rihanna (IEI-Fe)

Alessia Cara (IEI-Fe)

**Kill4Me** · 02-04-2016, 06:14 PM

Vivian Leigh (IEI-Ni)

Dona Drake (IEI-Ni)

Jane Greer (IEI-Ni)

Mirjana Puhar (IEI-Ni)

Kurt Cobain (IEI-Ni)

Maria Callas (IEI-Ni)

**Sol** · 02-05-2016, 10:35 AM

Vivian Leigh - ENFJ
Mirjana Puhar - mb
Dona Drake - S type
Kurt Cobain - yes

**Olimpia** · 02-05-2016, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Kill4Me

Vivian Leigh (IEI-Ni)

Dona Drake (IEI-Ni)

Jane Greer (IEI-Ni)

Mirjana Puhar (IEI-Ni)

Kurt Cobain (IEI-Ni)

Maria Callas (IEI-Ni)

Most of the IEIs there are actually ESI. (Actually, possibly all of them.)

It is a bit annoying how so many ESIs get mistyped as IEI. But oh well. It must be the shared 4D Fi and the ESI's Ni HA, that make people mistype ESI as IEI.

Most people don't even know what Beta is really like.

**Olimpia** · 02-05-2016, 11:23 AM

Btw, you mistype a lot of Gammas/Deltas as Beta.

Pamela Anderson is SEE, for instance.

David Bowie is Fi lead and valuing.

**Olimpia** · 02-05-2016, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sol

Nick Offerman - ISTJ

Nick Offerman is Delta. SLI, in fact.

**Sol** · 02-05-2016, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by SisOfNight

Nick Offerman is Delta. SLI

I'd look at your list of LSI.

**Kill4Me** · 02-06-2016, 07:48 PM

Kimbo Slice...SLE-Se 8w9 sx/so

Courtney Love (SLE-Se)

Kimbo Slice (SLE-Se)

**Kill4Me** · 02-06-2016, 08:05 PM

Jane Birkin...

Lorde (IEI-Fe)

Fiona Apple (IEI-Fe)

Kate Bush (IEI-Fe)

Jane Birkin (IEI-Fe)

**Kill4Me** · 02-07-2016, 03:21 PM

Napoleon Bonaparte....

Courtney Love (SLE-Se)

Napoleon Bonaparte (SLE-Se)

**Sol** · 02-08-2016, 05:50 PM

Yuriy Bogdanov - ISTJ

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