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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    How is a single reductive evolutionary theme throughout time the Ni perspective? Theoretically speaking Ni would be able to see how things change over time and there will be new theories on evolutionary behavior. The whole conversation between them is ridiculous to me btw. It is cringe-worthy. Joe pretty much stands his ground since he most likely sees himself as an alpha male. The other guy is arguing that alpha/beta males do not exist in humans and it is pretty obvious he knows he would not be considered an alpha male by anyone anyway. His guest never really got to the point of anything he was saying because he was defending himself.
    I don't think he's using Ni as a base function he probably has an immature view of it, but he's speaking about alpha and beta as some deep rooted evolutionary trait we have as humans, that we have had throughout time, like he is looking underneath what we see today and is trying to convince Adam of the source of what we call alpha/beta as he even says let's look past the words, he searches for the underlying source of it all, saying women like athletic/aggressive men more than introverted/passive men. To me that is an Ni perspective, that looking behind the veil. While Adam uses Ne to constantly dodge and make room for "exceptions" because he sees so many other possible reasons, like women liking Dad Bod. Dad Bod is an Ne thing.

    I agree with the rest of what you say and felt the same cringe. Adam's a pussy, Joe
    s a badass, Adam says badasses don't exist, Joe says they do (cuz he is one) Adam says they don't and men can be pussy's 2 and they aren't necessarily a pussy for it blah blah blah cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss BabyDoll View Post
    Katherina (Kate) Minola (EIE) – the "shrew" of the title and Petruchio (LSI), protagonists of the Shakespeare's Taming of the Shrew.

    Katherina - charming, verbose, intelligent, hot-tempered, and shrewish. Katherina's a girl who's just as capable of giving what she gets: just as the men around her objectify her, she insults and degrades them. However, her wit and anger scare both suitors and society, leading them to try to “fix” her. But while Katherina may be fundamentally unhappy, she’s unwilling to compromise her personality for the sake of others. Yet her angry, often violent, methods of expressing her frustrations do little to change anyone's mind.

    Petruchio - selfish and cunning, but completely honest about it. Petruchio is materialistic, snobbish, collected and domineering.

    central theme of the comedy is psychological interplay between Kate and Petruchio, more specifically, subordination and "educational therapy" often adopted by "declatim" LSI in the process of dualization with an EIE. The motif of such domestication is broadcasted in the play’s title by the word “taming.” A great part of the action consists of Petruchio’s attempts to cure Katherine of her antisocial hostility. Katherine is thus frequently referred to as a wild animal that must be domesticated. Petruchio considers himself, and the other men consider him, to be a tamer who must train his wife, and most of the men secretly suspect at first that her wild nature will prove too much for him. After the wedding, Petruchio and Katherine’s relationship becomes increasingly defined by the rhetoric of domestication. Petruchio speaks of training her like a “falcon” and plans to “kill a wife with kindness.” Hortensio even conceives of Petruchio’s house as a place where other men may learn how to domesticate women, calling it a “taming-school. the play portrays dispensation of the "dark energy" frequently present in characters of the EIE sociotype.
    "Not waiting for permission from the outside, Hamlet allows himself to "take his emotions for a walk", as dogs who have been sitting on a chain far too long, and releases them on whoever happened to be at hand. For this he provokes a scandal, using any opportunity to "pose the question or issue point-blank". And it's not that there are many "questions" and "issues", but that there is a lot of "dark energy" ("condensed emotions") that have accumulated, which are necessary to express somehow, to spill out somewhere, to discharge, because "burning them through" by oneself is all very difficult. It's not pleasant to see how unrealized emotions – their value, unrealized strength, hope, energy, and aspirations – burn pointlessly, as "dry foliage". Thus the EIE "lights up" as if on gunpowder whenever he is not allowed (for whichever reasons) to successfully and creatively to realize his emotional and energy potential."

    to close the psychological distance and to break the vicious condensation of this destructive energy, a static declatim LSI, applies the rigorous "carrot and stick" method, the aforementioned educational "therapy" with much success rendering her balanced and transformed at the end of the play. Katherina is still powerful and sharp but grounded and relieved of negative emotions at the end of the play, left in a state out of which, a true "mentor" can emerge to surface.


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    Wow, geat posts, fresh and insightful, I really enjoyed reading them.

    One thing in particular caught my attention: "(...) the play portrays dispensation of the "dark energy" frequently present in characters of the EIE sociotype (...)"

    Later you mentioned it again by calling it condensed emotions. I feel I know what you mean, but I'm really interested in how does it manifest in EIEs in your opinion, and mostly, what makes it dark?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kara View Post
    I feel I know what you mean, but I'm really interested in how does it manifest in EIEs in your opinion, and mostly, what makes it dark?
    EIE's program fxn is +Fe meaning there's a tendency for this type to accumulate emotions over a period of time. one could argue that his +Fe prog fxn works on the principle of the steam engine. The production of steam begins with the fire ( EIEs get hooked on a certain feeling, episode from like, an impression which sparks/ignites their interest and consequent reaction). Fire which rests on grates at the bottom of the firebox. Hot gases rise from the fire-bed (Hamlet begins to mull over certain topic, a single thought trying to reach the conclusion) to the upper portion of the firebox, or combustion chamber. here Hamlet elusively has two options - to disregard the notion of whatever has been preoccupying his psyche (which is hardly possible considering he needs to verbalize and emote whatever he's been thinking about) thus gathering all the built up emotions and "saving it for later" increasing the pressure in his mental homeostasis or to discharge them right away. the longer the process of mulling over is and the impression the stronger the reaction. continuing with the analogy, the gases move from the firebox forward through an array of pipes called flues, or tubes, in the main part of the boiler, which is filled with water. (application of the Dialectic - algorithmic method which includes instability and uncertainty. Algorithmic thinkers suffer from difficulty in making choices and embracing unambiguous decisions. This thinking is more comparable to a symphony of flowing interwoven imagery, rather than a mechanism of clearly established instruction sets. Another problem is increased criticality, which can be so high that it incurs self-destruction, plunging them into danger of total detachment from reality, and leading to mental disorders, especially in cases of hereditary predisposition.)Anyway, heat from the gases in the flues brings the water to a boil, making steam. The steam rises to the top of the boiler and is collected in the dome, where it eventually gets expulsed with a significant force. (this is the critical moment where the "dark emotions" explode out).

    this is one reason why such energy is considered dark, another is Hamlet's sheer desire to shock and captivate his audience. they love to play the role of infernal beings mostly because they do get annoyed and almost insulted if they realize that others might found them to be rather benign. EIEs strive for captivation and lasting impression (EIE being right extrovert - energy generator + Right ethical - most feminine type where right process and ethical disposition are united within him giving birth to a natural entertainer). Hamlets need to periodically have these collective dispensations of emotions mainly because regulation of those oh their own is impossible and this is where the LSI comes into play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss BabyDoll View Post
    EIE's program fxn is +Fe meaning there's a tendency for this type to accumulate emotions over a period of time. one could argue that his +Fe prog fxn works on the principle of the steam engine. The production of steam begins with the fire ( EIEs get hooked on a certain feeling, episode from like, an impression which sparks/ignites their interest and consequent reaction). Fire which rests on grates at the bottom of the firebox. Hot gases rise from the fire-bed (Hamlet begins to mull over certain topic, a single thought trying to reach the conclusion) to the upper portion of the firebox, or combustion chamber. here Hamlet elusively has two options - to disregard the notion of whatever has been preoccupying his psyche (which is hardly possible considering he needs to verbalize and emote whatever he's been thinking about) thus gathering all the built up emotions and "saving it for later" increasing the pressure in his mental homeostasis or to discharge them right away. the longer the process of mulling over is and the impression the stronger the reaction. continuing with the analogy, the gases move from the firebox forward through an array of pipes called flues, or tubes, in the main part of the boiler, which is filled with water. (application of the Dialectic - algorithmic method which includes instability and uncertainty. Algorithmic thinkers suffer from difficulty in making choices and embracing unambiguous decisions. This thinking is more comparable to a symphony of flowing interwoven imagery, rather than a mechanism of clearly established instruction sets. Another problem is increased criticality, which can be so high that it incurs self-destruction, plunging them into danger of total detachment from reality, and leading to mental disorders, especially in cases of hereditary predisposition.)Anyway, heat from the gases in the flues brings the water to a boil, making steam. The steam rises to the top of the boiler and is collected in the dome, where it eventually gets expulsed with a significant force. (this is the critical moment where the "dark emotions" explode out).

    this is one reason why such energy is considered dark, another is Hamlet's sheer desire to shock and captivate his audience. they love to play the role of infernal beings mostly because they do get annoyed and almost insulted if they realize that others might found them to be rather benign. EIEs strive for captivation and lasting impression (EIE being right extrovert - energy generator + Right ethical - most feminine type where right process and ethical disposition are united within him giving birth to a natural entertainer). Hamlets need to periodically have these collective dispensations of emotions mainly because regulation of those oh their own is impossible and this is where the LSI comes into play.
    Your descriptions are really neat and useful, thank you.


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    IEI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlascog View Post
    This is ILE mocking his PoLR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    This is ILE mocking his PoLR.
    For some reason I find it really funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlascog View Post
    For some reason I find it really funny
    I find it like, meh funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlascog View Post
    For some reason I find it really funny
    Here is IEE mocking his role.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4XcRDzH1LQ

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    Beta in the center


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    LSI

    (this is just an attempt, after watching a documentary about the Gspot, this researcher suggested we don't have one because of the lack of physical differences in homozygote twins among which one of them could reach g-spot orgasms. She came to the conclusion that the G-spot is then just a matter of "belief" (Ni HA), while actually ignoring the widespread experiences of women who claim to have those kinds of orgasms, and ignoring the basic workings+potential of a vagina..)

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    ASMR Anil Cakmak TV - LSI

    Lumiere - EIE
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    Elena Loktionova - INFP


    Maria Viveyeva - mb ESTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    ASMR Anil Cakmak TV - LSI

    Lumiere - EIE
    aaww homos out and about. LSI moves kid out of path of speeding taxi. Se sensor confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    aaww homos out and about. LSI moves kid out of path of speeding taxi. Se sensor confirmed.
    In Istanbul, when you are on the street, it is survival of the most aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    In Istanbul, when you are on the street, it is survival of the most aggressive.
    no one survived from shawarma

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    Both of them are from the Beta quadra


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    Wearing a hat and a hoodie, only PolR Si EIEs

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    @Sol
    Person on left, EIE? Maybe ESI on right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Person on left, EIE? Maybe ESI on right?
    on left mb EII. on right mb LIE

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    Johanne Schmidt-Nielsen - XSI?

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    Seung Hwan Lee - EIE-Ni



    (russian-speaking) lenski_beauty - IEI-Ni (3w4 sp/so?)

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    IEI?

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    IEI-very happy subtype

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    IEI-very happy subtype
    he's able to write some sad stuff tho



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    lol I was kidding, that guy made me depre : (

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    lol I was kidding, that guy made me depre : (
    rip in peace

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    Lev Shestov: IEI-Ni 4w5 sp/sx

    “One must not ask for sincere autobiographies from writers. Fiction was invented precisely to give men the possibility of expressing themselves freely.”

    “St. Augustine hated the Stoics, Dostoevsky hated the Russian Liberals. At first sight this seems a quite inexplicable peculiarity. Both were convinced Christians, both spoke so much of love, and suddenly - such hate! And against whom? Against the Stoics, who preached self-abnegation, who esteemed virtue above all things in the world, and against the Liberals who also exalted virtue above all things! But the fact remains: Dostoevsky spoke in rage of Stassyulevitch and Gradovsky; Augustine could not be calm when he spoke the names of those pre-Stoic Stoics, Regulus and Mutius Scaevola, and even Socrates, the idol of the ancient world, appeared to him a bogey. Obviously Augustine and Dostoevsky were terrified and appalled by the mere thought of the possibility of such men as Scaevola and Gradovsky - men capable of loving virtue for its own sake, of seeing virtue as an end in itself. Dostoevsky says openly in the Diary of a Writer that the only idea capable of inspiring a man is that of the immortality of the soul.”

    “Plato would hardly need to change a single word of his myth of the cave. Our knowledge would not be able to furnish an answer to his anxiety, his disquietude, his "premonitions." The world would remain for him, "in the light" of our "positive" sciences, what it was - a dark and sorrowful subterranean region - and we would seem to him like chained prisoners. Life would again have to make superhuman efforts, "as in a battle," to break open for himself a path through the truths created by the sciences which "dream of being but cannot see it in waking reality." In brief, Aristotle would bless our knowledge while Plato would curse it.”

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    Sergey Chirkov - ISTJ


    Troian Bellisario - INFP
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    Watched this very interesting video from Steven Crowder regarding the Vox Adpocalypse assault on his YouTube channel. I thought it was a very Beta speech. What do you all think?


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    StevenCrowder - mb ESE

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    StevenCrowder is argumentative pudding. Desperately molding...

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    SLE or EIE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Sergey Chirkov - ISTJ
    Yes I agree.

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