because they are unappreciated and not many people like them.(At least that's what I noticed about the INFjs around me.)
I don't want to be an INFj
because they are unappreciated and not many people like them.
INFjs are disproportionately represented among my closest friends.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
I think INFjs are very choosy about who their friends are.
FWIW, I have never met an INFj I didn't like.
FWIW?
I have only one INFJ friend I can think of but he is really cool. We go through periods of hanging out and then not hanging out. Since he is a homebody I tend to spend more time around him when the weather is bad.
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
you should really look at the possibility that you are not EII. i'm not going to say you definitively aren't because i don't know you at all, but from what i have seen of you, you resemble an IEI.
I have seen some INFjs who got into people's nerves simply even though they had good intentions, especially male INFjs. INFjs have this gentle but weak look in their eyes, and they seem cold on the surface even though they are actually emotional people on the inside. As a result, they seem to be taken advantage of by people who mistook their softness as weakness and perceived their coldness as unfeeling. At least that's the vibe I got from INFjs, and I can't imagine that that's how people see me. And we are bad in logic.
@Niffweed: why did you think that I resemble IEI?
The worst thing about EIIs, particularly females, that I have noticed...
is their unusually low self esteem or self image. All of their self sacrificing can leave them with a lot of emotional baggage that they carry, some almost proud about it, but in the INFj dutiful, solemn sort of way.
I think a trouble with INXjs is that they can be very subject to other people for their sense of well being, despite their reclusiveness. It seems 'counter-intuitive' to change yourself when you are in fact waiting for other people, but unless you are proactive about things, you'll always wait. The more you wait, the more you tlak yourself into believe that there is something wrong with you and some reason to not have peace right now. (consider IJ static states looking for EJ dynamics)
So now, you see this. The choice is yours - do you become(remain?) the bitch of your polr and dual seeking functions, or do you choose to know your weaknesses and improve upon them?As a result, they seem to be taken advantage of by people who mistook their softness as weakness and perceived their coldness as unfeeling.
The more you identify with what you said there, the more you believe it is you, and the more suffering you create because of that attachment. (So the question is, is that really who you are?) ((not to be considered in terms of socionics - that is a human, deeper question))
....But you're probably not looking for.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I always manage to make INFj smile.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
Is self esteem related to type?
Socionics: XNFx
MBTI: INFJ
to a degree..... compare the average self-esteem of INFps to say the average self-esteem of ESTps and it should be pretty damn obviousIs self esteem related to type?
INFp-Ni
i could only give you very general reasons off the top of my head.
if i recall correctly you once posted a video of yourself talking about how you were MBTI INFJ, but i can't find it. if you could reproduce that video here it might prove useful.
*nods*
I certainly am.
EII
I'll tell you what
there is plenty wrong with me
but I fixed up a few old buildings
and I've planted a few trees.
This is true for both INFps and INFjs. One thing I admire about ESTps is that they can brush off negative comments very easily and not be affected by them.to a degree..... compare the average self-esteem of INFps to say the average self-esteem of ESTps and it should be pretty damn obviousIs self esteem related to type?
Hmmm... only someone who isn't an ESTp will say this,This is true for both INFps and INFjs. One thing I admire about ESTps is that they can brush off negative comments very easily and not be affected by them.to a degree..... compare the average self-esteem of INFps to say the average self-esteem of ESTps and it should be pretty damn obviousIs self esteem related to type?
You get to see the more human side of ESTps if you spend a little more time around them. They can surprise you, actually. One of the ways I've learned to spot an ESTp is that he'll be the one constantly soliciting advice and complaining about "those mothafuckers who keyed my car" and all. lol. Delightful people, really.
lol that's so true
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