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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    However, I wouldn't quite say that IEEs are "more concerned with being liked" -- in the sense of avoiding conflict and controversy and getting along with people yes, but they are less concerned about making a positive impression beyond the baseline of merely getting along.
    Yeah that's true, I meant it in the sense of avoiding conflict or animosity. EIEs tend to be provocative with people unlike IEEs. I sometimes feel that EIEs do/say things to get a certain reaction from someone so that after they decide if he's good or no, so they can put him in a category. They do it often and it annoys the heck out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    Like how can you distinguish both? Because I'm usually confused 

    Differences between EIE (ENFj) and IEE (ENFp)

    1. When meeting someone new, ENFjs are not as likely as ENFps to perceive "getting to know somebody" as a special kind of activity. ENFjs know very well why they are getting acquainted (i.e., what the purpose of the relationship is, be it business, personal, travel, etc.). ENFjs, in contrast with ENFps, do not divide the process of getting acquainted into consecutive stages; rather ENFjs immediately establish the necessary emotional distance in contact and can regulate it if needed. To bridge the gap between poorly acquainted people in a group ENFjs amp up the emotional tone; this can be mutually experienced happiness or misfortune. The name and title of the person are of secondary relevance to ENFjs and their relationship with the other person.

    2. ENFjs tend to plan ahead, making decisions early. On the other hand, ENFps tend to prefer a wait and see, more spontaneous approach.

    3. ENFps tend to perceive events in an episodic manner, i.e., they see events evolve in discrete states rather than continuous changes. On the other hand, ENFjs tend to perceive events in a continuous sequence; i.e., they see events evolving fluidly rather that one state to the next.

    4. When describing the stages of an event, ENFjs are more likely to focus on how stage A leads to stage B, how stage B leads to stage C, etc. ENFps, on the other hand, focus more on the stages themselves without necessarily seeing or emphasizing the transitions or causes and effects of the stages to the extent that ENFjs do.

    5. When planning to complete something, ENFjs are more likely to focus their attention on the goal itself, overlooking and deprioritizing the individual actions needed to reach that goal. On the other hand, ENFps tend to focus their attention on the each action; i.e., they're focused on how each decision and choice is being made (towards reaching the goal), in a step by step process.

    6. ENFps are more likely to believe in objective truths than ENFjs. That is, ENFps are more likely to believe there is a correct or best way of doing something than ENFjs.

    7. ENFps tend to internally combine emotional exchanges with other activities rather than separating them out like ENFjs. E.g., ENFps see having fun occurring simultaneously with other activities, such as work or even serious affairs. ENFjs are more likely to internally separate out having fun with other activities, although the two can be interchanged at a high frequency.

    8. ENFps are comfortable making changes and adjustments to their decisions quite frequently. ENFjs, on the other hand, prefer to not make changes to their decisions.

    9. ENFjs tend to have stiffer more angular movements. ENFps tend to have more relaxed fluid movements.

    10. ENFjs tend to have a more authoritarian, hierarchical leadership style than ENFps.

    11. The "comparison and verification of concepts" is a more common phenomenon among ENFjs than ENFps. This comparison not only concerns ENFjs methods, but also their understanding, terminology, etc. ENFjs are attuned to the fact that different people might understand and interpret different concepts and terms differently. They perceive terminology as well as actions of other people as part of the subjective concept inseparable from personal opinion, position, intent, etc. In contrast to ENFps who perceive terminology as "objective," ENFjs understand personal differences behind terminology (this applies even to well established terms) and they attempt to compare and verify them.

    12. When conversing, ENFps types are inclined to communicate in the form of monologues, where each party has "its turn." Because of that they subconsciously attempt to transform a dialogue into a series of monologues. Conversely, ENFjs tend to prefer more of a question and answer style format.

    13. ENFjs are more inclined to believe there are relative truths than ENFps. That is, this relativity is perceived by ENFjs as an extenuation of the differing beliefs, opinions, intentions, etc. of each person.

    14. ENFps are more likely (than ENFjs) to use special rituals or other culturally accepted formalities when forming relationships with others. What that means is that the emotional proximity and relationship status for ENFps be more externally predetermined. Additionally, ENFps generally progress in relationships through stages, and therefore are more familiar with these stages than ENFjs. ENFps tend to be more linear in their relationship progression than ENFjs, and ENFps assign importance to the formalities of recognizing the start and end to each of these stages.

    15. ENFps are able to change and make adjustments to their goals more easily than ENFjs (depending on how progress is being made, etc.). ENFjs on the other hand, prefer to stick with their original goals.

    16. ENFps are rmore relaxed in their natural state than ENFjs. However ENFps will mobilize and concentrate when needed to accomplish an objective. After the task has been completed, ENFps demobilize again. This state of demobilization is the natural state of ENFps.

    17. ENFps have a relatively higher stress tolerance than ENFjs. ENFjs often struggle with continually changing situations more than ENFps do.

    18. ENFjs are more likely than ENFps to use "emotional anchors" that resonate with their internal emotional condition. These emotional anchors could be a book, a movie, a place, a song, etc. ENFjs use these anchors to strengthen their inner emotional state and thus will repeat the experience: e.g., re-reading a book, re-watching a movie, continually going back to a place to experience the emotions associated with it.

    19. When describing their reasoning for their actions, ENFps (more so than ENFjs) tend describe how and why they came to a certain decision, and focus less on the timing and initiation of the action.

    20. When discussing work, ENFjs are more likely than ENFps to focus on the fruits of their labor, about what their effort will yield. ENFps on the other hand are more likely to focus on the environment they work in, e.g., their work conditions, conveniences, commute time, etc.

    21. ENFps are relatively more flexible and tolerant than ENFjs.

    22. When it comes to completing a task, ENFjs are more likely than ENFps to mobilize for longer periods of time. Specifically, ENFjs tend to mobilize for an action early and stay mobilized for a longer period of time after the task has been completed. For ENFjs, this state of readiness is their natural state.

    23. When describing reality, ENFps are more likely to talk about the properties and structure of reality. ENFjs are more likely to describe reality as movements, interactions, and changes.

    24. ENFjs are more likely than ENFps to tackle a task in its entirety, rather than breaking it up into smaller separate stages.

    25. When describing why they undertook a project, ENFjs are more likely than ENFps to focus on the moment when a decision is made and to speak in detail about the stages of its implementation.

    26. ENFps are not as inclined to compare and verify concepts as ENFjs. ENFps assume that these can have only one unique interpretation (the "correct" interpretation), and ENFps often do not think about the fact that the other person may be interpreting them differently. Much more than ENFjs, ENFps apply concepts such as "objective reality," "unequivocal facts," and de-emphasize concepts; ENFps consider that they know the "right" way of doing things, how something "truly is," etc.

    27. ENFjs are relatively better at assessing the emotional atmosphere occurring in a group or during an activity than ENFps.

    28. ENFjs are relatively more rigid and stubborn than ENFps.

    29. When working on a project, ENFps experience more discomfort (than ENFjs) if the project does not have a clearly delineated end-goal or result. This happens because ENFps have more difficulty monitoring and understanding how the project is developing than ENFjs because they are outside of the process.

    30. When developing a plan of action or process, ENFjs tend to see themselves as "within the process"; they are immersed in it. Often because of this, they have more difficulty managing several plans at once. On the other hand, ENFps tend to place themselves "outside of the process"; they dissociate from it. For them the process or situation is something external from themselves.

    31. ENFjs tend to put more effort than ENFps into finishing any new project they start.

    32. ENFps are more likely (than ENFjs) to seek new and novel experiences rather than returning to something already lived through. They will generally only re-read a book, re-watch a movie, or revisit the same place if they have forgotten it or are hoping to learn something new from it.

    33. ENFjs tend to judge their available options by how likely the option will help them reach their goal. If a choice no longer helps ENFjs reach their goals, it will be dismissed and discontinued. On the other hand, ENFps prefer to continue pursuing their current option, opting to adjust their ultimate goal in order to fit the current choice.

    34. When working on a project, ENFps are more likely than ENFjs to break up larger tasks into several stages. Then ENFps mobilize to carry out each stage (and demobilize between the stages).

    35. When contemplating a task, it takes ENFps longer time to mobilize than ENFjs; i.e., ENFps prefer to spend some time in a more natural state of relaxedness which will then prepare them to subsequently mobilize and concentrate at the crucial moments, improving their performance.

    36. When something is perceived by ENFjs as being incorrect, they are more likely (than ENFps) to ask why it was done that way. Instead of necessarily trying to correct the person who made the error, ENFjs attempt to understand the person's reason for their decision/action.

    37. ENFps tend to start more tasks and other projects than ENFjs, but the ENFps are less likely to complete all of them.

    38. ENFps tend to have a more democratic leadership style than ENFjs.

    39. When doing a task, ENFjs are inclined to work for the sake of the result (for example, a reward or bonus for completing the task). In contrast to ENFps, ENFjs can renounce their comforts and conveniences for this; ENFjs evaluate their place of work by looking at what returns they get for the effort they invested (e.g., monetary, prestige, etc.).

    40. When getting ready to start a project, ENFps spend more time planning and preparing for the project than ENFjs. In particular, ENFps spend more time discussing the plan, discussing options and ways to approach the project, etc.)

    41. When something is perceived by ENFps as being incorrect, they are more likely (than ENFjs) to tell the person who made the error what they did wrong and how to do it the right way. ENFps are focused on who made the error and helping them to correct the mistake.

    http://www.sociotype.com/tools/type-comparison/EIE-IEE
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    Last edited by Aylen; 03-30-2018 at 02:40 PM.

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