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    What do you think? I've seen him typed as ENTj somewhere. The typical typings that are usually made by MBTI say ENTP, ESTP. I don't think he's an ESTp.
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    He reminds me of an ENFj friend of mine.
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    I don't think he's ENFp - he studied accounting and kept the Rolling Stones' books for a long time. Doesn't sound particularly like an ENFp thing. We'd be all about hiring someone to do that, but he wanted to keep control over the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    I think he gives off a delta vibe - like some quadras have certain facial features etc. I think he's a ENFp anyways.
    Nooo delta vibe??

    Slackermom: that speaks favourably towards ENTj
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    hmm...maybe your're right

    I think the Rolling Stones value stuff quite a lot (I can't get no satisfaction etc. ), and Keith Richards is almost archetypally ISTp. Bianca Jagger might be ISTp too, but that doesn't mean anything, cuz they're divorced...

    I find it quite difficult to tell apart Beta + Delta style music - Delta values are supposed to be respectable and Beta is all about worshiping the devil etc.

    Mick Jagger looks a bit like this chef called Jamie Oliver who I think is ESTj, but I guess I don't know enough about Jagger to say whether that's a plausible type (I'm irritating aren't I ). I think Mick Jagger is too in to fashion to be ESTj...I'm gonna look at some quotes and slowly disappear out of this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    I think he gives off a delta vibe - like some quadras have certain facial features etc. I think he's a ENFp anyways.
    Nooo delta vibe??

    Slackermom: that speaks favourably towards ENTj
    Yes, and I think he's ENTj too.
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    Some quotes - beware of my selective bias! He says he's not a sophisticated businessperson, and yet wishes he studies it - I think even though ENTj's are better than most at business things, people often play down things they are actually good at, cuz they realise they aren't perfect, and so may think they are a failure or something (so maybe what matters is the fact he talks about business related things? I guess, grudgingly, ENTj is a plausible type).

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    I think ENFj is possible allright, not really ENFp though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    Mick Jagger looks a bit like this chef called Jamie Oliver who I think is ESTj, but I guess I don't know enough about Jagger to say whether that's a plausible type (I'm irritating aren't I ). I think Mick Jagger is too in to fashion to be ESTj...I'm gonna look at some quotes and slowly disappear out of this thread...
    I <3 Jamie Oliver (in a totally hetro way ) . I love watching that naked chef show where he cooks (obviously ) ... something about his whole idiom is really soothing to me. But he still seems too wound up, jumpy, and kidlike to fit my image of an ESTj... (not that I have a better suggestion)

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    An older (than me) lady loves him -- I think she is ISTp.
    He moves his body like an Ep, or at least he used to.
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    I was thinking about an ENFj friend of mine who actually runs a rock band, takes drugs and is really talkative and mobile. So I am pretty convinced that MJ is an ENFj too, but i could be wrong....
    And ENFp..no way! ENFp may be leaders but they're not "chiefs" and it is clear that MJ is a "chief"
    ENTj...MJ is so crazy...ENTjs are businesslike and serious
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    He is ESTj. Same facial expressions of my late stepfather who was ESTj-Si. I think they're the same subtype. Although he was serious, he was very crazy, sociable and funny. I know an ESTj-Si woman who is extremely similar to Jagger, very thin, crazy and with a sense of humour.

    Gulenko describes the ESTj as skinny. I've never seen an ESTp or ENTj so skinny. ENTp also is a type that is generally strong or at least dense.

    By the way, he looks a very tense guy, gusty, not relaxed, specially when performing, doesn't fit SLE, LIE or ILE which are more sustained types. Even EIE isn't tense as him. The most tense type is ESTj. His crazy behavior is probably his well developed Ne Hidden Agenda.

    Just a comment: this forum's consensus is wrong 99% of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    He is ESTj. Same facial expressions of my late stepfather who was ESTj-Si. I think they're the same subtype. Although he was serious, he was very crazy, sociable and funny. I know an ESTj-Si woman who is extremely similar to Jagger, very thin, crazy and with a sense of humour.

    Gulenko describes the ESTj as skinny. I've never seen an ESTp or ENTj so skinny. ENTp also is a type that is generally strong or at least dense.

    By the way, he looks a very tense guy, gusty, not relaxed, specially when performing, doesn't fit SLE, LIE or ILE which are more sustained types. Even EIE isn't tense as him. The most tense type is ESTj. His crazy behavior is probably his well developed Ne Hidden Agenda.

    Just a comment: this forum's consensus is wrong 99% of times.
    Hm... Se demonstrative makes sense.

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    Huh...EIE? Might be very off. Typing by how skinny someone is or isn't is retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user123 View Post
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    I think Keith Richard is the EIE, Mick Jagger an IEI
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Mick Jagger - ENFJ Hamlet

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    LIE from start to finish.

    My ESI-Se friend was looking at Jagger's picture on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, looked at me, and she said I was making that exact expression.

    Hey, it's just my face doing that, not me.


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    I decided EIE>LIE last time I typed him, after watching a lot of Rolling Stones documentaries (My Life as a Rolling Stone (2022) especially).

    He studied finance and accounting and is probably the most shrew ruthless money-grubber of the band, so he'd fit the LIE stereotype I guess. Studied at the London School of Economics so maybe he's LSE.

    I have:
    Mick Jagger as EIE>LIE
    Keith Richards as IEI>ILI
    Charlie Watts as IEI>EII
    Ronnie Wood as IEE>ILE

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    Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are both IEI
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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