Obviously, putting too many eggs in one basket is risky. You don't want to be eating a diet that is dominated by any one food. However, it's gosh-darned impossible to overdose on Vitamin-A via eating spinach. The sort of overdose you are talking about really occurs only with vitamin supplements (which is why a lot of supplement manufacturers have switched from pure Vitamin-A to Beta-Carotene).Originally Posted by Rocky
I might have to hit you up for more good food info.....Hey, Auvi, I just realized I've missed reading your posts.Shucks, I've missed you too, ol' boy.
On spinach: this is one of my favorite foods. It's not very dense in calories, but packs a huge nutrient whallop. One cup of spinach gets you:
294.5%DV of Vitamin A (important for vision and bone, skin, hair, and nail health)
1110.6%DV of Vitamin K (important in protein metabolism)
- also high in calcium, riboflavin (a B-vitamin, important in cell function, and metabolism of proteins, carbs, and fats), vitamin-C (important antioxidant properties), iron, manganese, and potassium
See the World's Healthiest Foods site on Spinach.
As for mushrooms:
52.6% selenium (necessary for cell function)
- these are also high in phytochemicals that have been linked to cancer-prevention, in niacin (which can help prevent Alzheimer's)
See also their page on crimini mushrooms. I didn't want to place too much emphasis on mushrooms themselves, at least not any more than the other foods I mentioned, but since they aren't exactly vegetables, I listed them separately.
Now on the toxicity of plant food sources: The fact of the matter is, our bodies are fully equipt to deal with these toxins as they have done for thousands of years. Our bodies are NOT, however, as equipped to deal with the huge, dense amounts of salt, saturated and trans-fats, table sugar, and other things that just were not an option for our ancesters. It's extremely difficult for our bodies to deal with, say, a holiday meal with the trimmings: a turkey or goose, starchy side dishes such as stuffing and sweet potatoes, pie, wine, candy, nuts, etc. Is it any wonder why everyone basically collapses into a coma after meals like that? It ain't just the tryptophan.
If you've ever felt tired after a meal, it's because you've consumed something that your body is sapping all of your energy reserves to be able to metabolize.
I'm... one of those kinds of people.....The last comparison - "Hidden agenda". This is what people hide from other people, because it is very sensitive area of one's psyche. If the main function is like a geometric cone firmly standing on its base, the hidden agenda is like the same cone standing on its tip that one is trying to balance. For INTjs their introverted sensing () is their nightmare. Introverted sensing is mainly about the body, its functions, sensory perceptions etc. The only way they can balance that cone is for them to be physically healthy and if this is not that important to you, you are most probably not INTj.
Spinach...... (*recalls missed oppertunity to get a salad with lunch*)
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If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
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~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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Baby once told me not to eat tofu (or was it to eat tofu?) because I'm already manly enough.
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<3 (damn those dairy conspirators!)
(yeah, I must have edited while you were posting)
Baby, I like the style of your post and I like that you know all this stuff, but unfortunatly your diet approach clashes with mine. I have read a lot of body-building diet information and I have a plan of my own. It does not contain tons of eating raw vegetables or avoiding meat. I think people are supposed to eat meat and most nutritionists would agree. The best meal is the kind where all those starchy potatoes are substituted for a bigger chunk of meat.That's healthy IMO.
All plants are poisonous. Long ago there was an article "why is the rabbit hungry?". The rabbit runs around, looking for food, but he's surrounded with green things he could eat. As it turns out, there is a limit how much and how often a rabbit can eat a certain plant, before he reaches critical poison amount and he has to stop eating that one thing for a while. He has to have constant variety because of the plant poisons. The lecturer said that the same goes for humans. People are not supposed to eat too much of raw vegetables, unless they have a huge diversity of the vegetables.
I eat as much dairy as I can. Cottage cheese is a very typical part of my menu. When I'm becoming increasingly hungry, I just eat a little bit of anything, to get my blood sugar normal again. Otherwise I try to eat very often and as diverse foods as I can, so I would get all the necessary vitamins and minerals. Never had any soy-products.
PS! I've never had corn-syrup.
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Do you mean this as a diet for people trying to slim down, or as a diet to follow indefinitely?
If the latter, then it is too strict. You forget the psychological component. When I start dieting, there seems to be a psychological mechanism that tells me:
- Not to go out in the evening. If I go, I'd mess up the diet.
- Exercise with even more strictness just because.
- Not to hit on girls because going out with them would mess up the diet.
etc.
Maybe you're just better at sticking with it without feeling like your life is heading towards complete ascetism. I see people smoking, getting drunk, going dancing, and I can't feel superior to them any more as I used to when I was a teenager (luckily I can't, really).
I also think that is is very hard to reach a caloric intake of over 3000 kcals with only the foods described above.
As far as the glycemic index goes, complex carbs can be eaten if associated with proteins.
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@Kristiina: "If you keep doing what you have always done, you will get what you've always gotten."
I'm not sure if you read the first part of my post (quoting Rocky), but it addresses the meat issue. Once we were hunters. We spent our days running after our food. Genetically, we still are pretty much the same. But our lifestyles have become exponentially more sedentary, and we are consuming much more meat than our ancestors ever did, and certainly more than our bodies are used to dealing with. (See former post for elaboration.) As per toxicity/poison in plants... rubbish. Have you ever come across one documented incident of a human being (not a rabbit) killing themselves because they ate too much lettuce? (And I'm not talking about the recent e. coli scare with spinach.) There ARE, however, millions of cases in which people die or are severely impaired or paralyzed due to heart attack, stroke, vascular disease, etc. because they couldn't resist their daily steak.
The trouble with…
.... is that, sure, it’ll help you lose weight, but you'll do a number on your arteries and cardiovascular health in the long-run. Make no pretense that this is "healthy" in any way, shape or form. Anyway, if you have found the bodybuilder’s plan helpful, go ahead with it. My suggestions are actually based on the diet recommended by a lot of bodybuilders - among them, Frank Shamrock.
Frankly, I don't think think my diet "clashes" with yours. I don't think that's what you meant to say. If you did, you are essentially telling me your diet clashes with common sense.
@FDG: They are merely suggestions on the direction you want to head, should you want to see healthy weight loss. They are certainly things you would want to integrate into your diet should you want to remain healthy. It really isn't all that hard. If you make an effort to eat well most of the time, you'll have the luxury of screwing up once in a while without feeling like shit. Also, if you want to lose weight, you most likely do not want to be consuming upwards of 3,000 calories. (And no - It isn't at all hard to reach 3,000 calories on the foods I listed. Wherever did you get that idea? Also, my list is far from all-inclusive. I didn't mean for someone to go off and live ONLY on what I listed.)
EDIT: I've actually never been on a diet, being naturally wiry and prone to putting on muscle mass much more readily than fat, so I will admit I might be missing out on the psychological component. I eat this way out of habit, but I’m definitely not a complete ascetic. My diet is mostly dishes from Lebanon, India, France, Greece, Turkey, and Japan. Look up the cuisine of these nations. They have some of the most amazing, brilliant dishes in the world, and still manage to follow those “strict” guidelines. There’s nothing ascetic about eating well. I’d rather food of quality in lesser quantity than food of lesser quality in greater quantity.
I'm meat-lover, but I'd still agree with this. Eating too much red meat is too much for your body to handle. You already know I don't like Atkins. I certainly wouldn't suggest replacing the rices and breads and pastas in your diet. I think it's silly to be afraid of carbohydrates....... is that, sure, it’ll help you lose weight, but you'll do a number on your arteries and cardiovascular health in the long-run. Make no pretense that this is "healthy" in any way, shape or form. Anyway, if you have found the bodybuilder’s plan helpful, go ahead with it. My suggestions are actually based on the diet recommended by a lot of bodybuilders - among them, Frank Shamrock.
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"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Are egg whites good or bad?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Hmm...Protects against Death from All Causes, Especially Cardiovascular Disease
In August 2006, a European study, published in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition, found that tea is a healthier choice than almost any beverage, including pure water, because tea not only rehydrates as well as water, but provides a rich supply of polyhenols protective against heart disease.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
the site Baby linked to has a food analysing section to which you mark how often you eat the high nutrient density foods this site lists
http://www.whfoods.com/foodadvisor.php
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No one knows what's good for you or what's bad...it changes every other day according to health experts. If you're shoving your face with donuts and mcdonalds, you're gonna get fat. Easy as that. It's common sense. The stress of trying to figure it all out is a waste of time. Just eat what you want in moderation and exercise, why is that so hard??
There is no one magical diet, everyone is different. Life is entirely too short to worry how many grams of fat your consuming. Who cares, if you're gonna die, you're gonna die. If you want to be obese, go ahead and be obese.
I'm getting pretty sick of seeing this topic getting bumped. Someone can go ahead and lock it already.
Good stuff Baby, but we need more fat people jokes.
Meat is definitely not just an evolutionary relic in our diet that we don't need and which gives us cardiovascular health problems. Meat is a normal part of omnivore diet and gives iron, zinc, selenium, vitamins and protein. In fact, red meat is the main source of Vitamin D.
They consider vegetarianism as a lack of all animal products (including eggs and milk), so it's not 100% the same, but I found the data interesting
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Surely everybody diets, just not with the intention of getting thin(ner).
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"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Sorry, was having a bad day, haha ; )
But i do stick by what I said, I just think people put too much emphasis on dieting. You only live once, eat that cheeseburger and enjoy it!
But it comes from a person who follows or at least used to follow a clearly defined diet...Best advice everI would not suggest forgetting about the consequences of your actions. It is better to be aware of them when you make a decision instead of freaking out about them later. Anyways somekind of golden balance between hedonism and ascetism is likely the best way. I have some problems staying in the middle though instead swinging from one end to another and back.
Because I personally choose not to be fat. It's my choice. If someone wants to be fat, that should be their choice. I'm basically just sick of the 'what should i eat, what shouldn't i eat' questions. Do what you want.
As much as i say i hate seeing this topic keep coming back to life, i keep bumping it. Go figure...
I thought it was - everybody has a diet, but not everyone diets. Having a diet is the same as saying that there are things that the person eats. But "to diet", the verb, is restricting the diet and it is used to deliberately gain or lose weight/become more of less healthy. I'm not a native speaker, so I'm not sure.
jessica129 - I was taking it easy (hamburgers, etc) for a long time, but it's not just a matter of "choosing to be thin" so it started having an effect. Not sure though... It seems to come naturally todominants, who know exactly when to diet and when to go out running. I keep fluctuating between too much and too little of food and excercise.
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E3 (probably 3w4)
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running?
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lol, but you'll feel much easier and lighter if you are slim.running?
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E3 (probably 3w4)
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I couldn't even imagine what running would do my body. I'm sure it wouldn't be pretty though... just thinking about this makes me want to have a cigarrete... (there's some sick mental process for ya
I imagine I'll have to figure something out eventually though... I'm approaching the line beyond which I am officially classified "Fat Ass". I wonder if there's some pills or something I could start popping instead, that's deffinately more my speed.
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