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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    She cried for an hour about him getting her addicted to heroin, raping her and pushing her into a fridge etc lol
    I think that ILE James Deen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Deen) has some similar complaints against him.

    Most of the SLE's that I know can range anywhere from gung-ho Air Force heroes to street thugs, but I feel that they are all gentlemen at heart.

    Maybe I'm prejudiced because I feel that Duals have levers which they can use to affect each other, so violence should not be necessary, but maybe I'm being naive.

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    That chick Taylor Nicole Dean is not IEI.

    I don't know the guy, but Se doesn't make you violent/rapist, and being violent/rapist doesn't make you Se. Despite what people with out of control Se hidden agenda or rapey prison thug fantasies would have you believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I think that ILE James Deen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Deen) has some similar complaints against him.

    Most of the SLE's that I know can range anywhere from gung-ho Air Force heroes to street thugs, but I feel that they are all gentlemen at heart.

    Maybe I'm prejudiced because I feel that Duals have levers which they can use to affect each other, so violence should not be necessary, but maybe I'm being naive.
    What makes you type him ILE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inaLim View Post
    That chick Taylor Nicole Dean is not IEI.

    I don't know the guy, but Se doesn't make you violent/rapist, and being violent/rapist doesn't make you Se. Despite what people with out of control Se hidden agenda or rapey prison thug fantasies would have you believe.
    Sure, not necessarily, but it should also be the most correlated by definition too. Together with Fi polr too, it makes a lot of sense, though I’m sure it’s triggering to be pigeonholed as an SLE male, that’s the truth!

    Do you have an alternative typing for her then? Or just satisfied with saying no to IEI and not saying why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Sure, not necessarily, but it should also be the most correlated by definition too. Together with Fi polr too, it makes a lot of sense, though I’m sure it’s triggering to be pigeonholed as an SLE male, that’s the truth!

    Do you have an alternative typing for her then? Or just satisfied with saying no to IEI and not saying why?
    I personally would like to type them EIE-Ni & LSI or if she's IEI then maybe activity relations instead, but I haven't looked into this at all and I won't any further. But if it's IEI-SLE duality it's a good example of how fucked up relationships and duality is in general, and no one is safe, ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    I personally would like to type them EIE-Ni & LSI or if she's IEI then maybe activity relations instead, but I haven't looked into this at all and I won't any further. But if it's IEI-SLE duality it's a good example of how fucked up relationships and duality is in general, and no one is safe, ever.
    Lol well it sure is a fucked up example I agree. I’m not saying it’s the norm, but just because it’s an extreme example doesn’t mean it’s not an example either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    What makes you type him ILE?
    John Deen? Something in his eyes, something in his expression. I think he's Fi-PoLR and Se-Role. Probably an sx-first ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    John Deen? Something in his eyes, something in his expression. I think he's Fi-PoLR and Se-Role. Probably an sx-first ILE.
    You’re literally basing this and your typing of the guy from my video just off of VI, and VI of a rapist porn actor as ILE for some reason at that, combined with the fact that you don’t want to believe Se egos can be really violent, for some irrational reason. Meanwhile I actually listened to this chick’s story about him for over an hour, as well as a video interview of the guy. I cannot take your comment seriously lol. Sure maybe your SLE acquaintances were good at heart, but some ended up in jail anyway right? Or did you retype them? Then there’s your creepy SLE coworker too.

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    Give me a fucking break, that guy is definitely nothing like SLE or LSI.
    IEE probably, everything screams Fi and Ne.

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    @Aaron Something Is this guy your identical, or are these beta ST guys just upset at being associated with a faggy rapist?

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    Ok on second thought I changed my mind and agree with you guys @Adam Strange @Northstar . He simply looks too faggy. I could see Ne lead better, maybe ILE.

    When I listened to the girl’s retelling of his actions though, I could understand some of his motivations. At one point in the video she said he tied her up with duct tape after undressing her and said something like “if everyone thinks that I’m a monster /rapist, then I will be one”. Probably the Fi polr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    @Aaron Something Is this guy your identical, or are these beta ST guys just upset at being associated with a faggy rapist?
    Idk, these "Beta ST's" aren't even the epitome of non-faggy either, but I don't know much of the guy. Prolly ILE or IEE could be. I myself am faggy.

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    final stage of dualization in beta irrationals


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    ^ Lmao they are too cool to exist. Impossibru.

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    Jason Momoa > SLE-Se 7w8 & Lisa Bonet > IEI-Ni 4w5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post


    Jason Momoa > SLE-Se 7w8 & Lisa Bonet > IEI-Ni 4w5
    That hobo is SEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    That hobo is SEE.
    Wrong. I said what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Wrong. I said what I said.
    Lmao, okay, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    Lmao, okay, man.
    lol sorry, hadn't sipped my coffee yet.

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    Mamoa is 100 percent sle > see he has a clear sle vi

    Compare him to Steven Adams from the Oklahoma city thunder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    lol sorry, hadn't sipped my coffee yet.
    It's okay, I just told you he was SEE without explaining why and i know it might have sounded kinda annoying lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Mamoa is 100 percent sle > see he has a clear sle vi

    Compare him to Steven Adams from the Oklahoma city thunder
    I'm kinda not into VI, is it even trust-worthy?

    I just never thought he seemed like a Ti ego or much less Fi polr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    I'm kinda not into VI, is it even trust-worthy?

    I just never thought he seemed like a Ti ego or much less Fi polr.
    I think so. I know many great typists who agree. By vi I mean more than just facial features. Body structure body language etc. I was vi'ing people long before I knew socionics and mbti was a thing. I noticed patterns in people based on having certain similair features.

    As for his ego block. What makes you say fi? He seems clearly fe valuing. He has a very merry attitude in interviews and I agree he is se base. He seems too calm for see. See is very erratic while sle has this slower more grounded energy typically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    That hobo is SEE.
    That hobo has more money than you. I certainly would be more careful about calling him that. Especially from someone living in a country that DEFAULTED on its debt

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    Quote Originally Posted by PussyInASarcophagus View Post
    That hobo has more money than you. I certainly would be more careful about calling him that. Especially from someone living in a country that DEFAULTED on its debt
    Didn't mean to shove my finger up your asshole, no need to get that defensive. oh, powerful SLE! And no, my country's situation is not my fault, I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    I think so. I know many great typists who agree. By vi I mean more than just facial features. Body structure body language etc. I was vi'ing people long before I knew socionics and mbti was a thing. I noticed patterns in people based on having certain similair features.

    As for his ego block. What makes you say fi? He seems clearly fe valuing. He has a very merry attitude in interviews and I agree he is se base. He seems too calm for see. See is very erratic while sle has this slower more grounded energy typically
    Not gunna argue you on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    And no, my country's situation is not my fault, I don't think so.
    Argentina has defaulted on its debt nine times since 1816. It isn't really a fault so much as a strategy. The reason they can keep getting loans from US banks after so many defaults is that the US banks which make these loans are able to get bailed out by the US government.

    So is the fault Argentina's? Or does the problem lie with US banks that know they can't lose on the loans they make, because the guys who own the banks also run the US government? The banks get the interest payments from Argentina and then they get compensated for the lost principal by the US taxpayer.

    You know, if a bank loaned me money and I defaulted, and then the bank came back the next year with more loan offers and I took the money again and defaulted again, and then the banks came back the third year with more loan offers, I'd be stupid not to take the free money.

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    there's a SLE-Se-3 and IEI-Ni-9 couple at 0:50+ & 5:55

    for comparison there's LSE-Si and a Ne girl, possibly an EII-Ne, @3:55


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    IEI meets SLE, loses cheating SLE, then, much wiser, finds another SLE.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-547...=pocket-newtab

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    final stage of dualization in beta irrationals

    1 year later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    1 year later.

    That guy is an F type. SEE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    That guy is an F type. SEE?
    I agree, one can read it even in his body language.

    I have a weird observation regarding beta duality, at least in my experience it seems that when the chase is over and she stops putting up resistance :/ I lose steam and interest.. Is this normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    I agree, one can read it even in his body language.

    I have a weird observation regarding beta duality, at least in my experience it seems that when the chase is over and she stops putting up resistance :/ I lose steam and interest.. Is this normal?
    Yeah I think that's not unusual at all in aggressor/victim dynamics. Se is energized by overcoming resistance and obstacles, and when there are no longer any your drive also drops.

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    Yes Jason Momoa is definitely SLE. Looks like an SLE i used to be housemates with. We barely talked but when he was drunk he'd randomly come into my room and start dancing like a crab. And sometimes pulled off my blanket cover and dragged it to the living room so I'd hang out with him down there (pretty cute)

    I used to creep up on him, slap him in the face from behind and run away before he could get me. fun

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    IEI.............when socionics sources say that IEI is my soulmate, it's interesting. it was always a question for me that what sociotype can be so interested in sexual games (as I love it). when I seen that they say IEI likes sexual games and fantasies, I thought there's a problem, something's wrong, because with those descriptions about IEI (OFC I didn't read so much about it), I always had this thought that someone like IEI will never even think about these sexual games. (how I think about "INFP" in "MBTI" and about "4w5" in "Enneagram".) well it was interesting that someone with those descriptions can like sex so much, but I still deny it. My friend somehow suggested IEI to me too. but, people usually aren't 100% of their descriptions, and about sex, people act su.pid.ly (Separate from their personality and types). that's why I say soulmate system can be interesting, but I don't rely on it. I feel better if I check my standards myself closely and directly to make sure the relationship isn't made based on wrong thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20oWARRIORo50 View Post
    IEI.............when socionics sources say that IEI is my soulmate, it's interesting......
    Duals are not soulmates; their information processing is what your information processing needs in order to make the best possible integrated system for a broad range of life experiences. Given that their accompanying sets of baggage are not overpowering, duals will usually be able to tolerate each other simply because they don't focus on the same things so will not tread on each other's toes while at the same time, will probably stay on the same path even though they'll often disagree. They are what each other needs like eating one's vegetables rather than having a second dessert. It's not as romantic a concept as implied by the word 'soulmates'. It's about being able to work together over the long term - but too many people simply prefer to have dessert and will rationalize away any potential future consequences.

    a.k.a. I/O

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    Interesting. then I hope one of those, "duals" can tolerate me lol. Now that I realized Socionics doesn't engage in those stupid romantic plays, I like socionics more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Duals are not soulmates; their information processing is what your information processing needs in order to make the best possible integrated system for a broad range of life experiences. Given that their accompanying sets of baggage are not overpowering, duals will usually be able to tolerate each other simply because they don't focus on the same things so will not tread on each other's toes while at the same time, will probably stay on the same path even though they'll often disagree. They are what each other needs like eating one's vegetables rather than having a second dessert. It's not as romantic a concept as implied by the word 'soulmates'. It's about being able to work together over the long term - but too many people simply prefer to have dessert and will rationalize away any potential future consequences.

    a.k.a. I/O



    Interesting. then I hope one of those, "duals" can tolerate me lol. Now that I realized Socionics doesn't engage in those stupid romantic plays, I like socionics more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20oWARRIORo50 View Post
    Interesting. then I hope one of those, "duals" can tolerate me lol. Now that I realized Socionics doesn't engage in those stupid romantic plays, I like socionics more.
    Type is only one factor in determining compatibility and with respect to potential show-stoppers, it can be a rather minor issue. Some on this site seem to read more into Socionics than actually does exist. One has to keep in mind that every type has the potential to be either a saint or a devil; most are somewhere in between. A dual will likely not be able to coexist with a partner who has opposing values. Many also seem to evaluate the end product to determine compatibility whereas the routes taken are far more revealing. Socionics is better applied to understanding the people that you already work or live with rather than using it as a tool to find a mate.

    a.k.a. I/O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Type is only one factor in determining compatibility and with respect to potential show-stoppers, it can be a rather minor issue. Some on this site seem to read more into Socionics than actually does exist. One has to keep in mind that every type has the potential to be either a saint or a devil; most are somewhere in between. A dual will likely not be able to coexist with a partner who has opposing values. Many also seem to evaluate the end product to determine compatibility whereas the routes taken are far more revealing. Socionics is better applied to understanding the people that you already work or live with rather than using it as a tool to find a mate.

    a.k.a. I/O


    Agreed.
    Well, My only tool to find a mate destroyed too lol.

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