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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    This is white people anime

    Female IEI animal youtuber speaks of relationship with abusive SLE musician
    Dunno. This Jonny Craig guy looks ILE to me.

    He looks more like ILE Conan O'Brien than God of Comedy SLE Bill Burr.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    How would that scare them? I mean, I'm not disagreeing. Most of the male ESI's that I know watch sports exclusively. They might not have four chairs, but they have a big screen TV tuned to the sports channel. And I can't recall an ESI ever mentioning anime, so you might be right. But why do you think you're right?

    I’m assuming you’re a lot older than me, and that you didn’t grow up watching anime nor was it really that popular during your high school days, which is the main factor for why most ESIs your age won’t watch it. It really needs getting used to. Being interested in Japanese cartoons was a social death sentence lol.

    But even if you show them something like that now they ‘won’t feel like it’s them’. ESIs aren’t interested in anything that’s not concrete (?) the ones I know won’t watch Harry Potter for example. It has to be something that really relates to them and what they would like to achieve. My ESI cousin watches anime, but only ones that specifically relate to the topic of freedom. My SEE friend watches the Avengers because she really values strength.

    Since we, XSIs are very quick to judge, they will never give it enough time to find something they like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    I’m assuming you’re a lot older than me, and that you didn’t grow up watching anime nor was it really that popular during your high school days, which is the main factor for why most ESIs your age won’t watch it. It really needs getting used to. Being interested in Japanese cartoons was a social death sentence lol.

    But even if you show them something like that now they ‘won’t feel like it’s them’. ESIs aren’t interested in anything that’s not concrete (?) the ones I know won’t watch Harry Potter for example. It has to be something that really relates to them and what they would like to achieve. My ESI cousin watches anime, but only ones that specifically relate to the topic of freedom. My SEE friend watches the Avengers because she really values strength.

    Since we, XSIs are very quick to judge, they will never give it enough time to find something they like.
    "Quick to judge". Yeah, I think that's true. I think I've seen that a few times. And once they make up their minds, they don't change them easily.

    "ESI's aren't interested in anything that's not concrete". I think I've seen that before, too. So, future promises mean nothing, but cold, hard cash gets their attention? Hmmm. This could simplify things considerably. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uTcw_A80Bo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Dunno. This Jonny Craig guy looks ILE to me.

    He looks more like ILE Conan O'Brien than God of Comedy SLE Bill Burr.

    She cried for an hour about him getting her addicted to heroin, raping her and pushing her into a fridge etc lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    She cried for an hour about him getting her addicted to heroin, raping her and pushing her into a fridge etc lol
    I think that ILE James Deen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Deen) has some similar complaints against him.

    Most of the SLE's that I know can range anywhere from gung-ho Air Force heroes to street thugs, but I feel that they are all gentlemen at heart.

    Maybe I'm prejudiced because I feel that Duals have levers which they can use to affect each other, so violence should not be necessary, but maybe I'm being naive.

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    That chick Taylor Nicole Dean is not IEI.

    I don't know the guy, but Se doesn't make you violent/rapist, and being violent/rapist doesn't make you Se. Despite what people with out of control Se hidden agenda or rapey prison thug fantasies would have you believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I think that ILE James Deen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Deen) has some similar complaints against him.

    Most of the SLE's that I know can range anywhere from gung-ho Air Force heroes to street thugs, but I feel that they are all gentlemen at heart.

    Maybe I'm prejudiced because I feel that Duals have levers which they can use to affect each other, so violence should not be necessary, but maybe I'm being naive.
    What makes you type him ILE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inaLim View Post
    That chick Taylor Nicole Dean is not IEI.

    I don't know the guy, but Se doesn't make you violent/rapist, and being violent/rapist doesn't make you Se. Despite what people with out of control Se hidden agenda or rapey prison thug fantasies would have you believe.
    Sure, not necessarily, but it should also be the most correlated by definition too. Together with Fi polr too, it makes a lot of sense, though I’m sure it’s triggering to be pigeonholed as an SLE male, that’s the truth!

    Do you have an alternative typing for her then? Or just satisfied with saying no to IEI and not saying why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Sure, not necessarily, but it should also be the most correlated by definition too. Together with Fi polr too, it makes a lot of sense, though I’m sure it’s triggering to be pigeonholed as an SLE male, that’s the truth!

    Do you have an alternative typing for her then? Or just satisfied with saying no to IEI and not saying why?
    I personally would like to type them EIE-Ni & LSI or if she's IEI then maybe activity relations instead, but I haven't looked into this at all and I won't any further. But if it's IEI-SLE duality it's a good example of how fucked up relationships and duality is in general, and no one is safe, ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    I personally would like to type them EIE-Ni & LSI or if she's IEI then maybe activity relations instead, but I haven't looked into this at all and I won't any further. But if it's IEI-SLE duality it's a good example of how fucked up relationships and duality is in general, and no one is safe, ever.
    Lol well it sure is a fucked up example I agree. I’m not saying it’s the norm, but just because it’s an extreme example doesn’t mean it’s not an example either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    What makes you type him ILE?
    John Deen? Something in his eyes, something in his expression. I think he's Fi-PoLR and Se-Role. Probably an sx-first ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    John Deen? Something in his eyes, something in his expression. I think he's Fi-PoLR and Se-Role. Probably an sx-first ILE.
    You’re literally basing this and your typing of the guy from my video just off of VI, and VI of a rapist porn actor as ILE for some reason at that, combined with the fact that you don’t want to believe Se egos can be really violent, for some irrational reason. Meanwhile I actually listened to this chick’s story about him for over an hour, as well as a video interview of the guy. I cannot take your comment seriously lol. Sure maybe your SLE acquaintances were good at heart, but some ended up in jail anyway right? Or did you retype them? Then there’s your creepy SLE coworker too.

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    Give me a fucking break, that guy is definitely nothing like SLE or LSI.
    IEE probably, everything screams Fi and Ne.

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    @Aaron Something Is this guy your identical, or are these beta ST guys just upset at being associated with a faggy rapist?

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    Ok on second thought I changed my mind and agree with you guys @Adam Strange @Northstar . He simply looks too faggy. I could see Ne lead better, maybe ILE.

    When I listened to the girl’s retelling of his actions though, I could understand some of his motivations. At one point in the video she said he tied her up with duct tape after undressing her and said something like “if everyone thinks that I’m a monster /rapist, then I will be one”. Probably the Fi polr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    @Aaron Something Is this guy your identical, or are these beta ST guys just upset at being associated with a faggy rapist?
    Idk, these "Beta ST's" aren't even the epitome of non-faggy either, but I don't know much of the guy. Prolly ILE or IEE could be. I myself am faggy.

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    final stage of dualization in beta irrationals


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    ^ Lmao they are too cool to exist. Impossibru.

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    Jason Momoa > SLE-Se 7w8 & Lisa Bonet > IEI-Ni 4w5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post


    Jason Momoa > SLE-Se 7w8 & Lisa Bonet > IEI-Ni 4w5
    That hobo is SEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    That hobo is SEE.
    Wrong. I said what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Wrong. I said what I said.
    Lmao, okay, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    Lmao, okay, man.
    lol sorry, hadn't sipped my coffee yet.

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    Mamoa is 100 percent sle > see he has a clear sle vi

    Compare him to Steven Adams from the Oklahoma city thunder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    lol sorry, hadn't sipped my coffee yet.
    It's okay, I just told you he was SEE without explaining why and i know it might have sounded kinda annoying lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Mamoa is 100 percent sle > see he has a clear sle vi

    Compare him to Steven Adams from the Oklahoma city thunder
    I'm kinda not into VI, is it even trust-worthy?

    I just never thought he seemed like a Ti ego or much less Fi polr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    I'm kinda not into VI, is it even trust-worthy?

    I just never thought he seemed like a Ti ego or much less Fi polr.
    I think so. I know many great typists who agree. By vi I mean more than just facial features. Body structure body language etc. I was vi'ing people long before I knew socionics and mbti was a thing. I noticed patterns in people based on having certain similair features.

    As for his ego block. What makes you say fi? He seems clearly fe valuing. He has a very merry attitude in interviews and I agree he is se base. He seems too calm for see. See is very erratic while sle has this slower more grounded energy typically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    That hobo is SEE.
    That hobo has more money than you. I certainly would be more careful about calling him that. Especially from someone living in a country that DEFAULTED on its debt

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    Quote Originally Posted by PussyInASarcophagus View Post
    That hobo has more money than you. I certainly would be more careful about calling him that. Especially from someone living in a country that DEFAULTED on its debt
    Didn't mean to shove my finger up your asshole, no need to get that defensive. oh, powerful SLE! And no, my country's situation is not my fault, I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    I think so. I know many great typists who agree. By vi I mean more than just facial features. Body structure body language etc. I was vi'ing people long before I knew socionics and mbti was a thing. I noticed patterns in people based on having certain similair features.

    As for his ego block. What makes you say fi? He seems clearly fe valuing. He has a very merry attitude in interviews and I agree he is se base. He seems too calm for see. See is very erratic while sle has this slower more grounded energy typically
    Not gunna argue you on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    And no, my country's situation is not my fault, I don't think so.
    Argentina has defaulted on its debt nine times since 1816. It isn't really a fault so much as a strategy. The reason they can keep getting loans from US banks after so many defaults is that the US banks which make these loans are able to get bailed out by the US government.

    So is the fault Argentina's? Or does the problem lie with US banks that know they can't lose on the loans they make, because the guys who own the banks also run the US government? The banks get the interest payments from Argentina and then they get compensated for the lost principal by the US taxpayer.

    You know, if a bank loaned me money and I defaulted, and then the bank came back the next year with more loan offers and I took the money again and defaulted again, and then the banks came back the third year with more loan offers, I'd be stupid not to take the free money.

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    there's a SLE-Se-3 and IEI-Ni-9 couple at 0:50+ & 5:55

    for comparison there's LSE-Si and a Ne girl, possibly an EII-Ne, @3:55


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